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  1. #1
    George
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    I've pasted their plan below. Are they basically saying in a
    smartphone it's $15 a month but if it's on a PDA (PPC or Palm) then
    it's $30 a month. I did ask that without the extra 15$ you use THEIR
    email address they give you [email protected] but if you want to POP3
    to your own ISP you have to pay the extra $15.

    Can you get unlimited access on PDA for $15.

    I really like the T-Mobiles plans but they don't have quite the area
    coverage I need.

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    MailSM. Includes 100 SMS Text Messages and Web access. $15
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    and other Sprint PCS Vision Services. Includes 100 SMS Messages and
    Web access. $15
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  2. #2
    Help PCS
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    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    [email protected] (George) wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Are they basically saying in a smartphone it's $15 a month
    > but if it's on a PDA (PPC or Palm) then it's $30 a month.


    It's $15/month for any Palm-based phone (or non Pocket PC
    phone). It's $30/month for a Pocket PC-based phone (or
    $15/month if your service plan is $100 or higher). The
    reasoning is that a Pocket PC-based phone acts more like a
    laptop computer and would download more data than other
    phones.



  3. #3
    John Richards
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    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    "Help PCS" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > It's $15/month for any Palm-based phone (or non Pocket PC
    > phone). It's $30/month for a Pocket PC-based phone (or
    > $15/month if your service plan is $100 or higher). The
    > reasoning is that a Pocket PC-based phone acts more like a
    > laptop computer and would download more data than other
    > phones.


    Is there any rationale for believing that a Pocket PC-based phone
    would download much more data than a Palm-based phone?
    It's just a different OS, right?

    --
    John Richards



  4. #4
    =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=
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    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    In article <[email protected]>, jr70
    @blackhole.invalid says...
    > Is there any rationale for believing that a Pocket PC-based phone
    > would download much more data than a Palm-based phone?
    > It's just a different OS, right?
    >=20


    Not really. The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser. =
    =20
    It has limitations. Not as much as a "pure" phone, but still=20
    significantly more so than a laptop. A PocketPC, or even the Windows=20
    SmartPhone, they have PocketIE. It really *is* an HTML browser. Maybe=20
    not all the DHTML, or Javascript, or some of the other goodies, but it's=20
    still far more of a browser akin to what you have on a PC than what=20
    comes on a Palm. So yeah, based on usage Sprint saw with the original=20
    PocketPC phone, the Toshiba "Thera" 2032 (which is still for sale,=20
    interestingly, or pathetically, depending on your opinion), Sprint saw=20
    Windows-style PDA's using significantly more data.

    --=20
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    ~+~
    A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
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  5. #5
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    O/Siris wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, jr70
    > @blackhole.invalid says...
    >
    >>Is there any rationale for believing that a Pocket PC-based phone
    >>would download much more data than a Palm-based phone?
    >>It's just a different OS, right?
    >>

    >
    >
    > Not really. The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.
    > It has limitations. Not as much as a "pure" phone, but still
    > significantly more so than a laptop. A PocketPC, or even the Windows
    > SmartPhone, they have PocketIE. It really *is* an HTML browser.


    So Rob... You *are* billing Sprint each time you answer a question here, right?
    Just tell 'em to 1099 you at the end of the year

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  6. #6
    Kyler Laird
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    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <[email protected]întpcs.côm> writes:

    >The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.


    Blazer is just a WAP browser?!

    Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?

    --kyler



  7. #7
    John Richards
    Guest

    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    "Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <[email protected]întpcs.côm> writes:
    >
    >>The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.

    >
    > Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
    >
    > Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?


    This is what I was getting at. A competent OS will run any software
    written for it, and there's no reason to run only a limited browser
    just because the OS is Palm.

    Is this another situation where Sprint can't see farther than the
    length of its nose?

    --
    John Richards




  8. #8
    Kyler Laird
    Guest

    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    "John Richards" <[email protected]> writes:

    >"Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >> =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <[email protected]întpcs.côm> writes:
    >>
    >>>The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.

    >>
    >> Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
    >>
    >> Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?


    >This is what I was getting at. A competent OS will run any software
    >written for it, and there's no reason to run only a limited browser
    >just because the OS is Palm.


    But the *only* browser I got on my Palm phone from SprintPCS
    was Blazer. There's no "limited browser" issue that I see.

    >Is this another situation where Sprint can't see farther than the
    >length of its nose?


    I don't get it. Are you thinking that they don't know that
    they ship an HTML browser with their Palm phones?

    --kyler



  9. #9
    George
    Guest

    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    Kyler Laird <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <[email protected]întpcs.côm> writes:
    >
    > >The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.

    >
    > Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
    >
    > Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?
    >
    > --kyler


    What's to prevent me from signing up with a cheap phone and then
    buying a pocket pc phone to replace it. Do CDMA phones use SIM chips
    or simular, how hard is it to switch. I don't expect to download a lot
    of data. I just don't want to pay for $30.00 month because some folks
    may have abused it.



  10. #10
    John Richards
    Guest

    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    "Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > "John Richards" <[email protected]> writes:
    >
    >>"Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >>> =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <[email protected]întpcs.côm> writes:
    >>>
    >>>>The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.
    >>>
    >>> Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
    >>>
    >>> Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?

    >
    >>This is what I was getting at. A competent OS will run any software
    >>written for it, and there's no reason to run only a limited browser
    >>just because the OS is Palm.

    >
    > But the *only* browser I got on my Palm phone from SprintPCS
    > was Blazer. There's no "limited browser" issue that I see.
    >
    >>Is this another situation where Sprint can't see farther than the
    >>length of its nose?

    >
    > I don't get it. Are you thinking that they don't know that
    > they ship an HTML browser with their Palm phones?


    I wasn't specifically commenting on the HTML vs WAP browser aspect.
    My comment was regarding O/Siris' claim that a Palm device can't
    download nearly as much data as a Pocket PC device.

    --
    John Richards




  11. #11
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    Sprint PCS phones do not use sims. When you call Sprint PCS to
    activate your pocket pc phone they will know it is a pocket pc phone and
    charge you the $30 for Vision, unless you tell them that you do not want
    a Vision plan and are willing to pay the per kilobyte rate.



  12. #12
    Central
    Guest

    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 06:59:59 +0000, John Richards wrote:

    >
    > I wasn't specifically commenting on the HTML vs WAP browser aspect.
    > My comment was regarding O/Siris' claim that a Palm device can't
    > download nearly as much data as a Pocket PC device.


    Actually O/Siris was relaying what sprintpcs claimed. Also that claim
    involved a point when palm's had a wap browser standard while
    wince/pocket pc/etc.. through its versions has had a form of IE. It is a
    pretty empty claim but I'm sure sprintpcs had their reasons.



  13. #13
    =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=
    Guest

    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    > So Rob... You *are* billing Sprint each time you answer a question here, =

    right?=20
    > Just tell 'em to 1099 you at the end of the year
    >=20


    Nah. I just think of the stunned silence Sprint reps give these people=20
    after they call in with more information than the resp have, and I call=20
    the entertainment value an even trade

    --=20
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    ~+~
    A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792



  14. #14
    =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=
    Guest

    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    In article <[email protected]>, jr70
    @blackhole.invalid says...
    > "Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:ubt662-bv6.ln=

    [email protected]...
    > > =3D?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=3D <[email protected]=EEntpcs.c=F4m> writes:
    > >
    > >>The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.

    > >
    > > Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
    > >
    > > Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?

    >=20
    > This is what I was getting at. A competent OS will run any software
    > written for it, and there's no reason to run only a limited browser
    > just because the OS is Palm.
    >=20
    > Is this another situation where Sprint can't see farther than the
    > length of its nose?
    >=20
    >=20


    Blazer is a WAP browser. But, also, Sprint has installed a kind of=20
    "interpreter" server in between that attempts to translate into WAP=20
    whenever an HTML page comes in. Don't remember what SPCS called it. It=20
    also does web clipping, and image compression.

    There's no reason not to try an HTML page. Plus, it's a Palm OS at=20
    heart, so if you find an HTML browser, there's no reason not to install=20
    it. The costing is simply based on the software already built into the=20
    respective OS's.

    --=20
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    ~+~
    A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792



  15. #15
    =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=
    Guest

    Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans

    In article <[email protected]>, jr70
    @blackhole.invalid says...
    > I wasn't specifically commenting on the HTML vs WAP browser aspect.
    > My comment was regarding O/Siris' claim that a Palm device can't
    > download nearly as much data as a Pocket PC device.
    >=20


    My comment was about observed usage. Not about technical capabilities.

    --=20
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    ~+~
    A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792



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