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  1. #1
    Phil Schuman
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    Here are some email comments I received from a biz that has several
    international sales/support travellers. The company has tried to
    consolidate their wireless - right
    ---

    I just got someone a T-Mobile 7100t today. Nextel's implementation of
    accommodating international travelers is pretty bad. The 7100t is a
    quad-band phone and T-Mobile seems to have a more extensive partnership
    with
    carriers in more countries. You don't have to call any one and you
    don't
    have to swap the sim chip to another phone, the service just follows you
    if
    you are enabled for international service.

    The 7100t is a much nicer phone than anything out there right now.

    T-Mobile is much less expensive than Nextel too. We seem to have really
    sucked it up with Nextel and just blindly go with them on this kind of
    stuff. I am hoping for positive feedback from my T-Mobile test subjects
    so
    I can justify a change.

    AT&T has been a real PIA to deal with these past several months. Hope
    things settle down once they come to grips with Cingular. I'm ready to
    dump
    them too. They are deconstructing their analog partnerships, so
    coverage
    issues seem to be the same now between carriers. They all have strong
    markets and weak markets - nothing like the coverage AT&T used to be
    able to
    provide. Understand the progression in technology, but coverage seems
    like
    a step backwards.

    KS -






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  2. #2
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: mergers, carriers, & international usage

    Phil Schuman wrote:
    > Here are some email comments I received from a biz that has several
    > international sales/support travellers. The company has tried to
    > consolidate their wireless - right
    > ---
    >
    > I just got someone a T-Mobile 7100t today. Nextel's implementation of
    > accommodating international travelers is pretty bad. The 7100t is a
    > quad-band phone and T-Mobile seems to have a more extensive partnership
    > with
    > carriers in more countries. You don't have to call any one and you
    > don't
    > have to swap the sim chip to another phone, the service just follows you
    > if
    > you are enabled for international service.


    Well, duh. That's because T-Mobile has cellular networks in more countries
    than anyone else.

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  3. #3
    Roger Binns
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    Re: mergers, carriers, & international usage

    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > Well, duh. That's because T-Mobile has cellular networks in more countries than anyone else.


    Actually Vodafone has that honour. From their web site:

    Vodafone Group Plc provides an extensive range of mobile
    telecommunications services, including voice and data
    communications, and is the world's largest mobile
    telecommunications company, with a significant presence in
    Continental Europe, the United Kingdom, the United States
    and the Far East through the Company's subsidiary undertakings,
    associated undertakings and investments.

    The Group's mobile subsidiaries operate under the brand name
    'Vodafone'. In the United States the Group's associated
    undertaking operates as Verizon Wireless.

    If you go to their website and click on About Vodafone -> Global
    Footprint then they they show their subscriber numbers. (They
    count based on proportion of company owned, so they count only
    44% of VZW customers as theirs as well).

    The total comes out as 146 million customers.

    For T-Mobile the best information I could find was this statement:

    At the end of 2002 approximately 82 million people used the
    mobile communication services of companies where T-Mobile or
    Deutsche Telekom have a controlling interest or minority
    participation. These services are realized through a common
    technological platform based on GSM, the world's most successful
    digital radio standard.

    Although that number is old, they haven't pro-rated it based on
    percentage ownership.

    That still leaves Vodafone as the largest, even if you subtract
    out the people who aren't using a "common technological platform
    based on GSM".

    [And I just noticed that you are counting cellular networks as
    opposed to customers. That is a harder claim to find raw numbers
    on.]

    I would however agree with the statement that VZW doesn't seem
    to care too much about the existence of the rest of the world.
    That however is fairly common for many US based companies.

    Roger





  4. #4
    John Navas
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    Re: mergers, carriers, & international usage

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:42:53 -0800,
    "Roger Binns" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >> Well, duh. That's because T-Mobile has cellular networks in more countries than anyone else.

    >
    >Actually Vodafone has that honour. From their web site:
    >
    > Vodafone Group Plc provides an extensive range of mobile
    > telecommunications services, including voice and data
    > communications, and is the world's largest mobile
    > telecommunications company, with a significant presence in
    > Continental Europe, the United Kingdom, the United States
    > and the Far East through the Company's subsidiary undertakings,
    > associated undertakings and investments.
    >
    > The Group's mobile subsidiaries operate under the brand name
    > 'Vodafone'. In the United States the Group's associated
    > undertaking operates as Verizon Wireless.
    >
    >If you go to their website and click on About Vodafone -> Global
    >Footprint then they they show their subscriber numbers. ...


    The original statement above is "cellular networks in more countries," not
    total subscribers.

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  5. #5
    Roger Binns
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    Re: mergers, carriers, & international usage


    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]


    > The original statement above is "cellular networks in more countries," not
    > total subscribers.


    And if you had bothered reading my whole message you would have seen this:

    > [And I just noticed that you are counting cellular networks as
    > opposed to customers. That is a harder claim to find raw numbers
    > on.]


    Roger





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