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  1. #1
    Protest
    Guest

    Forget what the 411 plan promises "TODAY".
    When there's HUGE money to be made selling our phone numbers,
    plans/promises can and will be changed,
    often without much of a warning to us consumers.
    Oh, it won't be "published" in hardcopy but
    that doesn't mean that the softcopy can't be sold.

    Besides, the National Do Not Call Registry is simple.
    All that is required is the phone number and
    an email address.



    "Protest" <[email protected]_thanks.com> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > In a few weeks, cell phone numbers are being released to
    > telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sales calls on
    > cell phones. Call this number from your cell phone 888-382-1222.
    > It is the national Do Not Call list. It blocks your number for 5 years.
    >
    > Here's the online form:
    > https://www.donotcall.gov/register/reg.aspx
    >






    See More: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**




  2. #2
    Ron Marraccini
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    Besides -

    Putting one's cell number on a "do not call list" - just creates another
    list and, please realize that it would be a highly coveted (ie; expensive)
    one at that.

    Everything is for sale somewhere.

    --
    Ron A. Marraccini
    RAM Legal Systems - OBI #146
    2000 N.E. 42nd Ave., #192
    Portland, OR 97213
    (503) 232-2470

    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > Protest wrote:
    > > Forget what the 411 plan promises "TODAY".

    >
    > Oh yeah, let's just into a total panic!
    >
    > > When there's HUGE money to be made selling our phone numbers,
    > > plans/promises can and will be changed,
    > > often without much of a warning to us consumers.

    >
    > And the Qsent proposal makes this easier how? If the cell companies
    > really wanted to do this, they wouldn't have to publish a 411
    > directory... they already have our numbers and could easily sell those
    > numbers TODAY.
    >
    > Oh and by the way... the Do Not Call list has problems as well. Putting
    > your number on the list only makes your number off limits to for-profit
    > telemarketing calls. Do you realize how many telemarketers have
    > switched to getting paid to represent non-profit and political
    > endeavors, both of which are NOT covered by DNC, and which ALL of those
    > numbers are now publicly available and fair play to telemarketers
    > getting paid to market for non-profit agencies? That's right, your cell
    > phone number may not have been immediately known to non profit agencies,
    > but putting it on the DNC list makes it available and callable to any
    > boilerroom that's getting cash to guilt-trip called households to donate
    > money to "worthy" causes. Of which half or more of the amount collected
    > will go to "overhead" expenses, lining the pockets of telemarketing
    > firms who are allowed to profit even if they work for "non-profit"
    > agencies. Nice move, moron.
    >
    >
    > > Oh, it won't be "published" in hardcopy but
    > > that doesn't mean that the softcopy can't be sold.
    > >
    > > Besides, the National Do Not Call Registry is simple.
    > > All that is required is the phone number and
    > > an email address.

    >
    > Ah, so they can spam you too.
    >
    > Look, all you're doing is playing on the fears of the uninformed to
    > spread an urban myth. I wish scum like you would get a life.
    >
    >
    > --
    > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.
    >






  3. #3
    Ivor Jones
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    Michelle Steiner wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Protest" <[email protected]_thanks.com> wrote:
    >
    >> When there's HUGE money to be made selling our phone numbers,
    >> plans/promises can and will be changed, often without much of a
    >> warning to us consumers.

    >
    > There's a law against telemarketing to cell phones. The sky is not
    > falling.
    >
    > http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp



    All this assumes of course that the whole world lives in the USA.

    Ivor





  4. #4
    Protest
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**


    And, what are you doing? Hypocrite!!!

    I have yet to receive telemarketing calls and
    spam of the sort that you fear.

    Anyone with half a brain knows that the chances of
    the registry being sold is much-much less likely than
    the 411 directory.



    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > Protest wrote:
    > > Forget what the 411 plan promises "TODAY".

    >
    > Oh yeah, let's just into a total panic!
    >
    > > When there's HUGE money to be made selling our phone numbers,
    > > plans/promises can and will be changed,
    > > often without much of a warning to us consumers.

    >
    > And the Qsent proposal makes this easier how? If the cell companies
    > really wanted to do this, they wouldn't have to publish a 411
    > directory... they already have our numbers and could easily sell those
    > numbers TODAY.
    >
    > Oh and by the way... the Do Not Call list has problems as well. Putting
    > your number on the list only makes your number off limits to for-profit
    > telemarketing calls. Do you realize how many telemarketers have
    > switched to getting paid to represent non-profit and political
    > endeavors, both of which are NOT covered by DNC, and which ALL of those
    > numbers are now publicly available and fair play to telemarketers
    > getting paid to market for non-profit agencies? That's right, your cell
    > phone number may not have been immediately known to non profit agencies,
    > but putting it on the DNC list makes it available and callable to any
    > boilerroom that's getting cash to guilt-trip called households to donate
    > money to "worthy" causes. Of which half or more of the amount collected
    > will go to "overhead" expenses, lining the pockets of telemarketing
    > firms who are allowed to profit even if they work for "non-profit"
    > agencies. Nice move, moron.
    >
    >
    > > Oh, it won't be "published" in hardcopy but
    > > that doesn't mean that the softcopy can't be sold.
    > >
    > > Besides, the National Do Not Call Registry is simple.
    > > All that is required is the phone number and
    > > an email address.

    >
    > Ah, so they can spam you too.
    >
    > Look, all you're doing is playing on the fears of the uninformed to
    > spread an urban myth. I wish scum like you would get a life.
    >
    >
    > --
    > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.
    >






  5. #5
    Protest
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**


    And, what are you doing? Hypocrite!!!

    I have yet to receive telemarketing calls and
    spam of the sort that you fear.

    Anyone with half a brain knows that the chances of
    the registry being sold is much-much less likely than
    the 411 directory.



    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > Protest wrote:
    > > Forget what the 411 plan promises "TODAY".

    >
    > Oh yeah, let's just into a total panic!
    >
    > > When there's HUGE money to be made selling our phone numbers,
    > > plans/promises can and will be changed,
    > > often without much of a warning to us consumers.

    >
    > And the Qsent proposal makes this easier how? If the cell companies
    > really wanted to do this, they wouldn't have to publish a 411
    > directory... they already have our numbers and could easily sell those
    > numbers TODAY.
    >
    > Oh and by the way... the Do Not Call list has problems as well. Putting
    > your number on the list only makes your number off limits to for-profit
    > telemarketing calls. Do you realize how many telemarketers have
    > switched to getting paid to represent non-profit and political
    > endeavors, both of which are NOT covered by DNC, and which ALL of those
    > numbers are now publicly available and fair play to telemarketers
    > getting paid to market for non-profit agencies? That's right, your cell
    > phone number may not have been immediately known to non profit agencies,
    > but putting it on the DNC list makes it available and callable to any
    > boilerroom that's getting cash to guilt-trip called households to donate
    > money to "worthy" causes. Of which half or more of the amount collected
    > will go to "overhead" expenses, lining the pockets of telemarketing
    > firms who are allowed to profit even if they work for "non-profit"
    > agencies. Nice move, moron.
    >
    >
    > > Oh, it won't be "published" in hardcopy but
    > > that doesn't mean that the softcopy can't be sold.
    > >
    > > Besides, the National Do Not Call Registry is simple.
    > > All that is required is the phone number and
    > > an email address.

    >
    > Ah, so they can spam you too.
    >
    > Look, all you're doing is playing on the fears of the uninformed to
    > spread an urban myth. I wish scum like you would get a life.
    >
    >
    > --
    > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.
    >






  6. #6
    George
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**


    "Protest" <[email protected]_thanks.com> wrote in message
    news:sd%[email protected]
    >
    > And, what are you doing? Hypocrite!!!
    >
    > I have yet to receive telemarketing calls and
    > spam of the sort that you fear.
    >
    > Anyone with half a brain knows that the chances of
    > the registry being sold is much-much less likely than
    > the 411 directory.
    >
    >

    Exactly, the only reason there is a do not call list is that so many people
    asked the politicians we elected for such regulation. Any politician who
    would be silly enough to water it down would be out of a job in the next
    election.





  7. #7
    John Richards
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    I've had both our cell numbers on the DNC list since its inception
    and have not received a single solicitation, non-profit or otherwise.

    --
    John Richards


    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message news[email protected]
    >
    > Oh and by the way... the Do Not Call list has problems as well. Putting
    > your number on the list only makes your number off limits to for-profit
    > telemarketing calls. Do you realize how many telemarketers have
    > switched to getting paid to represent non-profit and political
    > endeavors, both of which are NOT covered by DNC, and which ALL of those
    > numbers are now publicly available and fair play to telemarketers
    > getting paid to market for non-profit agencies? That's right, your cell
    > phone number may not have been immediately known to non profit agencies,
    > but putting it on the DNC list makes it available and callable to any
    > boilerroom that's getting cash to guilt-trip called households to donate
    > money to "worthy" causes. Of which half or more of the amount collected
    > will go to "overhead" expenses, lining the pockets of telemarketing
    > firms who are allowed to profit even if they work for "non-profit"
    > agencies. Nice move, moron.





  8. #8
    John Richards
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > Michelle Steiner wrote:
    >> There's a law against telemarketing to cell phones. The sky is not
    >> falling.
    >>
    >> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

    >
    >
    > All this assumes of course that the whole world lives in the USA.


    Do you think foreign-based telemarketers will be calling US consumers?
    I really doubt it.

    --
    John Richards



  9. #9
    Quick
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    John Richards wrote:
    > "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> Michelle Steiner wrote:
    >>> There's a law against telemarketing to cell phones. The sky is not
    >>> falling.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

    >>
    >>
    >> All this assumes of course that the whole world lives in the USA.

    >
    > Do you think foreign-based telemarketers will be calling US consumers?
    > I really doubt it.


    I kind of doubt it too "If you're ever in Frankfurt please give our car wash
    a try.". And for foreign telemarketers calling foreign cell phones my
    understand is much of Europe is caller pays.

    -Quick





  10. #10
    Ivor Jones
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    John Richards wrote:
    > "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> Michelle Steiner wrote:
    >>> There's a law against telemarketing to cell phones. The sky is
    >>> not falling.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

    >>
    >>
    >> All this assumes of course that the whole world lives in the USA.

    >
    > Do you think foreign-based telemarketers will be calling US
    > consumers? I really doubt it.


    They call UK customers all the time..! Half the world's call centres are
    now in India it seems....


    Ivor





  11. #11
    Joseph
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 18:41:58 GMT, "John Richards"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >> Michelle Steiner wrote:
    >>> There's a law against telemarketing to cell phones. The sky is not
    >>> falling.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

    >>
    >>
    >> All this assumes of course that the whole world lives in the USA.

    >
    >Do you think foreign-based telemarketers will be calling US consumers?
    >I really doubt it.


    And why not? International rates between Europe and the US are only
    pennies more than making domestic calls. If they think there's
    something to be gained by soliciting across the Atlantic there's
    really not much to prevent them from doing it. And what makes you
    think that it doesn't already happen?!

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  12. #12
    Joseph
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:53:22 -0800, "Quick"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I kind of doubt it too "If you're ever in Frankfurt please give our car wash
    >a try.". And for foreign telemarketers calling foreign cell phones my
    >understand is much of Europe is caller pays.


    And what makes you think that domestic operations might not take
    advantage of foreign cheaper labour costs to market US products?

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  13. #13
    Quick
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    Joseph wrote:
    > On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:53:22 -0800, "Quick"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I kind of doubt it too "If you're ever in Frankfurt please give our
    >> car wash a try.". And for foreign telemarketers calling foreign
    >> cell phones my understand is much of Europe is caller pays.

    >
    > And what makes you think that domestic operations might not take
    > advantage of foreign cheaper labour costs to market US products?


    Ahhh, now we're back to US "domestic operations" which would
    fall under the do not call penalties.

    -Quick





  14. #14
    Joseph
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:53:06 -0800, "Quick"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Joseph wrote:
    >> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:53:22 -0800, "Quick"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> I kind of doubt it too "If you're ever in Frankfurt please give our
    >>> car wash a try.". And for foreign telemarketers calling foreign
    >>> cell phones my understand is much of Europe is caller pays.

    >>
    >> And what makes you think that domestic operations might not take
    >> advantage of foreign cheaper labour costs to market US products?

    >
    >Ahhh, now we're back to US "domestic operations" which would
    >fall under the do not call penalties.


    But what makes you think that the US has any clout over foreign
    jurisdictions?
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  15. #15
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:31:56
    -0800, Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:53:06 -0800, "Quick"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Joseph wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:53:22 -0800, "Quick"
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I kind of doubt it too "If you're ever in Frankfurt please give our
    >>>> car wash a try.". And for foreign telemarketers calling foreign
    >>>> cell phones my understand is much of Europe is caller pays.
    >>>
    >>> And what makes you think that domestic operations might not take
    >>> advantage of foreign cheaper labour costs to market US products?

    >>
    >>Ahhh, now we're back to US "domestic operations" which would
    >>fall under the do not call penalties.

    >
    >But what makes you think that the US has any clout over foreign
    >jurisdictions?


    It does when there's a "domestic operation."

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



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