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  1. #1
    Protest
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    Don't forget that cell phones also have text messaging features that
    facilitate another form of spam.

    Hmmm ... since the National Do Not Call Registry is
    provoking such contempt, here's something to
    ponder seriously over ...

    What do the 411 directory advocates stand to lose by
    people registering their phone numbers with
    the National Do Not Call Registry?



    "Joseph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:38:43 GMT, "Protest" <[email protected]_thanks.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >In a few weeks, cell phone numbers are being released to
    > >telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sales calls on
    > >cell phones. Call this number from your cell phone 888-382-1222.
    > >It is the national Do Not Call list. It blocks your number for 5 years.
    > >
    > >Here's the online form:
    > >https://www.donotcall.gov/register/reg.aspx

    >
    > How about telling where you heard that telemarketing companies are
    > going to start calling cellular number? If any telemarketing company
    > had any sense they'd know that their telemarketing call to a cell
    > phone costs the recipient money and is forbidden by law. If you're
    > going to spread **** get it at least right.
    >
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >





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  2. #2
    Michelle Steiner
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    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Protest" <[email protected]_thanks.com> wrote:

    > Hmmm ... since the National Do Not Call Registry is provoking such
    > contempt, here's something to ponder seriously over ..


    No, the registry is not provoking contempt; in fact, I have my land line
    registered with it.

    What is provoking contempt is your "the sky is falling" hysteria.

    --
    Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.



  3. #3
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    Protest wrote:
    > Don't forget that cell phones also have text messaging features that
    > facilitate another form of spam.


    ....And SMS spam is also actionable. An extension to 1991's junk fax laws made
    it illegal. That just happened within the last 12 months, but it *has* happened.

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  4. #4
    Protest
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**


    It's good that SMS spam is actionable. What's not good is
    that spam (SMS or not) "can be" sent in such a way that
    makes it very difficult to trace the sender of the SMS spam.
    Even worse, the sender can be in a different country.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure here.



    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > Protest wrote:
    > > Don't forget that cell phones also have text messaging features that
    > > facilitate another form of spam.

    >
    > ...And SMS spam is also actionable. An extension to 1991's junk fax laws made
    > it illegal. That just happened within the last 12 months, but it *has* happened.
    >
    > --
    > JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services, http://JustThe.net/
    > Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / 888.480.4NET (4638) / [email protected]
    > PGP Key available from your friendly local key server (0xE3AE35ED)
    > Apple Valley, California Nothing scares me anymore. I have three kids.






  5. #5
    Richard Ness
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    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    Or your worn out sig....("provoking contempt")
    The election is over Michelle, PLEASE maybe enough is enough?...


    "Michelle Steiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >
    > What is provoking contempt is your "the sky is falling" hysteria.
    >
    > --
    > Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.






  6. #6
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    Protest wrote:
    > It's good that SMS spam is actionable. What's not good is
    > that spam (SMS or not) "can be" sent in such a way that
    > makes it very difficult to trace the sender of the SMS spam.
    > Even worse, the sender can be in a different country.
    > An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure here.


    A decent amount of filtering is done by the cellular carriers, though. I only
    got repeated spam to my Verizon phone from one slimy outfit, about a half-dozen
    copies from eCost/PCMall (and the jerkwads claimed they couldn't remove either
    of the addresses that forwarded to the phone, because neither was on the list
    -- lying bastards). Other than that, and a couple miscellaneous spams, nothing
    in four years. I don't believe I've gotten any spam to my Sprint phone in the
    six months that I've had it, and my wife hasn't gotten any at all since getting
    her first phone back in 2000. So -- the carriers are doing something to deal
    with the problem. Could they do a better job? Sure. But my perspective is that
    things could be a LOT worse.


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  7. #7
    John Navas
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    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Fri, 10 Dec 2004
    00:07:49 GMT, "Protest" <[email protected]_thanks.com> wrote:

    >It's good that SMS spam is actionable. What's not good is
    >that spam (SMS or not) "can be" sent in such a way that
    >makes it very difficult to trace the sender of the SMS spam.
    >Even worse, the sender can be in a different country.
    >An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure here.


    It's actually quite practical for the carrier to trace the origins of SMS
    messages.

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    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  8. #8
    David S
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:00:03 -0800, "Richard Ness"
    <[email protected]> chose to add this to the great equation of
    life, the universe, and everything:

    >Or your worn out sig....("provoking contempt")
    >The election is over Michelle, PLEASE maybe enough is enough?...
    >
    >
    >"Michelle Steiner" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >>
    >> What is provoking contempt is your "the sky is falling" hysteria.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.


    It's just a sig. Can't you simply ignore it?

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  9. #9
    Joseph
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 18:52:46 GMT, "Protest" <[email protected]_thanks.com>
    wrote:

    >Don't forget that cell phones also have text messaging features that
    >facilitate another form of spam.


    Except you're not dealing with the subject at hand. Go start another
    thread about text messaging spam if that's what you're after. This
    thread is about telemarketing to cell phones.

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  10. #10
    Michelle Steiner
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Richard Ness" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Or your worn out sig....("provoking contempt")
    > The election is over Michelle, PLEASE maybe enough is enough?...


    Impeachment has nothing to do with the election. Clinton's re-election
    didn't stop the GOP from their impeachment efforts.

    Yes, enough is enough; I've had enough of Bush's malfeasance in office.

    --
    Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.



  11. #11
    Michelle Steiner
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Richard Ness" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Or your worn out sig....("provoking contempt")
    > The election is over Michelle, PLEASE maybe enough is enough?...


    Impeachment has nothing to do with the election. Clinton's re-election
    didn't stop the GOP from their impeachment efforts.

    Yes, enough is enough; I've had enough of Bush's malfeasance in office.

    --
    Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.



  12. #12
    Richard Ness
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    The hope was to take/keep politics where it belongs....
    Which is NOT in a cellular newsgroup, but... oh well....
    Ignore I will.

    (and hope she takes politics somewhere else)

    "David S" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >
    > It's just a sig. Can't you simply ignore it?
    >






  13. #13
    Protest
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**


    You're wrong. Text messaging (or SMS) here requires
    the cell number. And, is very pertinent to the subject under
    discussion.



    "Joseph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 18:52:46 GMT, "Protest" <[email protected]_thanks.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Don't forget that cell phones also have text messaging features that
    > >facilitate another form of spam.

    >
    > Except you're not dealing with the subject at hand. Go start another
    > thread about text messaging spam if that's what you're after. This
    > thread is about telemarketing to cell phones.
    >
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  14. #14
    Protest
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**


    You are clueless about how difficult it can be to
    trace the sender of SMS messages.



    "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <[email protected]> on Fri, 10 Dec 2004
    > 00:07:49 GMT, "Protest" <[email protected]_thanks.com> wrote:
    >
    > >It's good that SMS spam is actionable. What's not good is
    > >that spam (SMS or not) "can be" sent in such a way that
    > >makes it very difficult to trace the sender of the SMS spam.
    > >Even worse, the sender can be in a different country.
    > >An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure here.

    >
    > It's actually quite practical for the carrier to trace the origins of SMS
    > messages.
    >
    > --
    > Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>






  15. #15
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Cell Phone - National Do Not Call Registry - **Information Alert**

    Protest wrote:
    > You're wrong. Text messaging (or SMS) here requires
    > the cell number.


    No, it most certainly does not.

    At least not with some carriers.

    Definitely not with Verizon - they allow you to define an email alias that
    forwards to your [email protected]. Probably there are other
    carriers that do this too.

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