little scam that Sprint has going

You bet I read and understand every contract before I sigh it, even if
I have to hire a lawyer to do it.

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C,

You are a ****ing retard.
Hope you enjoy your new service.

"We all know that no normal people read their contract"

That's priceless.



On 11 Dec 2004 08:25:16 -0800, "c" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Notan,
>
>Do you read the fine print of all your contracts from top to bottom? If
>so, I laugh in your face because what a pathetic little life you live.
>
>If the contract said "after 2 months, Sprint reserves the right to your
>first 2 born children, as well as half your assets for next 20 years",
>would you still laugh?
>
>We all know that no "normal" people read their contracts, and in good
>faith, we expect to be told the weird parts of any contracts.
>
>Now get back to reading your oven's owners manual from top to bottom.
>
>c

c <[email protected]> wrote:
> 3 months ago moved to Sprint from Verizon.
>
> Sales girl told me I'd get all the bells and whistles free for the
> first 2 months, sounded great to me.
>
> What she failed to say was that after the 2 months, Sprint
> automatically assumes you want "the horse and the barn".
>

So what did you think would happen.

> So nearly **** myself when month 3 bill arrived for over $100. There
> was crazy stuff like
> $15 for photo plan
> $5 for text message plan
> $5 for emergency hazard (what the hell??)
>

You clearly agreed to more than default.

> Called them up and was only able to get $10 removed from the bill. Guy
> said since I had used photos and text msgs, he couldn't credit that
> part.
>

You were lucky to get $10 removed. Again, what did you think would
happen. You know what they say about assume. Well, it applies to you.
This is the way all loss leaders work, for all carriers and just about
all things in general [free insurance from your credit card for
instance]. You clearly lack in adult experience ... sorry for the hard
truth.

> What a load of crap.
>

Yes, perhaps, but it looks as if you are the one dishing this out.

> And to think I was really liking Sprint as of late. Reminds me why I
> left back in 99.
>

I, for one, would be glad to see you go if you are as naive as you
imply ... when are you coming back for round 3?

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So now the group's in a feedin frenzy eh?

I stand by my original assertion that I don't like companies doing
business with me this way: assume they want the everything until
customer says otherwise.

My salesgirl should have warned me, period.

Yes, I should have set 2 hours aside from day to fine comb the Sprint
contract. No I haven't learned my lesson cause I'm not going to do it
next time either.

Happy?

c

c wrote:
>
> So now the group's in a feedin frenzy eh?
>
> I stand by my original assertion that I don't like companies doing
> business with me this way: assume they want the everything until
> customer says otherwise.
>
> My salesgirl should have warned me, period.
>
> Yes, I should have set 2 hours aside from day to fine comb the Sprint
> contract. No I haven't learned my lesson cause I'm not going to do it
> next time either.
>
> Happy?

Speaking on behalf of the group, we couldn't care less.

If you can't, or don't want to, learn from your mistakes,
that's *your* problem.

Notan

On 11 Dec 2004 07:55:54 -0800, "c" <[email protected]> wrote:

>3 months ago moved to Sprint from Verizon.
>
>Sales girl told me I'd get all the bells and whistles free for the
>first 2 months, sounded great to me.
>
>What she failed to say was that after the 2 months, Sprint
>automatically assumes you want "the horse and the barn".
>
>So nearly **** myself when month 3 bill arrived for over $100. There
>was crazy stuff like
>$15 for photo plan
>$5 for text message plan
>$5 for emergency hazard (what the hell??)
>
>Called them up and was only able to get $10 removed from the bill. Guy
>said since I had used photos and text msgs, he couldn't credit that
>part.
>
>What a load of crap.
>
>And to think I was really liking Sprint as of late. Reminds me why I
>left back in 99.
>
>c

Either this is"bait", or you're a moron. You're lucky you got the $10
back.

c wrote:
> So now the group's in a feedin frenzy eh?

Whatever.

> Yes, I should have set 2 hours aside from day to fine comb the Sprint
> contract. No I haven't learned my lesson cause I'm not going to do it
> next time either.

> Happy?

I don't care either way. Doesn't hurt me if you cause problems for yourself by
not paying attention to the legally binding agreements you sign.


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"c" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So now the group's in a feedin frenzy eh?
>
> I stand by my original assertion that I don't like companies doing
> business with me this way: assume they want the everything until
> customer says otherwise.
>
> My salesgirl should have warned me, period.
>
> Yes, I should have set 2 hours aside from day to fine comb the Sprint
> contract. No I haven't learned my lesson cause I'm not going to do it
> next time either.
>
> Happy?
>
No, because you are probably going to come back here *****ing and moaning
once again, on something else that is clearly marked in big print.

Bob

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:11:29 -0800, Steve Sobol wrote:

> I don't care either way. Doesn't hurt me if you cause problems for yourself by
> not paying attention to the legally binding agreements you sign.

If it was a matter of reading or not reading a legal agreement that would
be one thing. This person didn't even bother to take the time to care.
He was told, "free" for the "first two months" and then assumes that means
it is limited to only two months of usage(automatic cancellation) without
them saying that. If he doesn't want to take the responsibility for
his own actions done with his own money why should sprintpcs? I guess the
reason he didn't read the agreement was because he couldn't even be
bothered to ask the simple question of, "what happens on the third month?".

In article <1102976759.455789.155730
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, [email protected]=20
says...
> Yes, I should have set 2 hours aside from day to fine comb the Sprint
> contract.
>=20

Wow, 2 hours, huh? Took me 10 minutes. Are you getting=20
help for that?

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is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.**
-Thomas Paine. The Rights of Man. 1792-

Guess he has a different definition for "we" and "normal". hihi

"next time" it is unlikely that you will be any happier than you are now.

What a tool.

I work in a Sprint retail outlet, I'm sad to say that I see people
like this all the time. People that thoroughly believe that I told
them that additional lines of service are free. People that come in
*****ing at me because their phone got turned off.

I had one person say "I don't know how much it is, I don't pay
attention to that stuff, just turn it back on" when they came to pay a
bill. Amazing.

I've noticed through experience that it is moreso people that don't
require a deposit with sprint that don't have problems. Reason being?
They understand the system. They understand how **** works. They
understand the concept of paying bills on time.

C, it is people like you (and people like the afforementioned) that
give Sprint a bad rep. It doesn't take 2 hours to read a sprint
contract. The print out usually takes all of one page, with a second
page to have your signature and date. The Advantage Agreement is
listed directly below summary of charges, and it's not all that fine
of print, including DETAILED DIRECTIONS on how to find you T&C's.

Allow me to read to you the very first line of the PCS Advantage
Agreement:

"Please read and review the Sprint PCS Advantage Agreement below.
Indicate you have read and understood all the terms by [signing
below]."

How bout these lines:

"You are entering into a legal Agreement with Sprint on behalf of
yourself. Your Agreement includes: (i) the requirements and terms of
the PCS Service Plan(s) you choose as set forth in the Service Plan
Guide and other printed materials made available to you at the store;
(ii) [pay close attention here] the most recent Terms and Conditions
of Service for PCS ("Ts&Cs"); and (iii) the items below.

A COPY OF THE TS&CS IS PROVIDED IN YOUR PHONE BOX OR AVAILABLE UPON
REQUEST, AT WWW.SPRINTPCS.COM OR THROUGH THE SPRINT'S CUSTOMER SERVICE
SOLUTIONS DEPARTMENT AT 1-800-481-4PCS (4727)."

Above that is the summary of features and a "sample statement".

$15 VISION [PREMIUM/PICTURE] PACK ATTATCH OPT $15

Now I don't have the exact wording for the SMS,Roadside assistance, or
ReadyLink options (b/c when I activated my phone I didn't put them
on), but it's pretty much the same, including the cost. Yes, you do
get all three of these for free for two months, but when have you ever
seen ANY company offering something free for X amount of time and then
automatic cancellation after that period? Do you have magazines like
this? How bout products that you have a certain trial period with no
risk, return it, blah blah, full money back (i.e: Bowflex). They keep
up their end of the bargain (giving you the product), you keep yours
(paying them).

Stupid custies make me sick
Peace,
JasonDEEJ.


On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:11:29 -0800, Steve Sobol <[email protected]>
wrote:

>c wrote:
>> So now the group's in a feedin frenzy eh?
>
>Whatever.
>
>> Yes, I should have set 2 hours aside from day to fine comb the Sprint
>> contract. No I haven't learned my lesson cause I'm not going to do it
>> next time either.
>
>> Happy?
>
>I don't care either way. Doesn't hurt me if you cause problems for yourself by
>not paying attention to the legally binding agreements you sign.

JasonDEEJ wrote:
> What a tool.
>
> I work in a Sprint retail outlet, I'm sad to say that I see people
> like this all the time. People that thoroughly believe that I told
> them that additional lines of service are free. People that come in
> *****ing at me because their phone got turned off.
>
> I had one person say "I don't know how much it is, I don't pay
> attention to that stuff, just turn it back on" when they came to pay a
> bill. Amazing.

It's people like this who amaze me how they manage to even survive. Do
these people manage to hold down a job? How do they keep the
electricity from being turned off? How do other people rely on them for
ANYTHING?

> I've noticed through experience that it is moreso people that don't
> require a deposit with sprint that don't have problems. Reason being?
> They understand the system. They understand how **** works. They
> understand the concept of paying bills on time.

Of course, that's what credit scores are for. If one's credit rating is
poor enough to require a deposit, it's because they have a history being
unreliable and irresponsible when it comes to committing to something
fiancially and having to follow through on it.


> C, it is people like you (and people like the afforementioned) that
> give Sprint a bad rep.

Well, I will have to say that Sprint did (and to a lesser extent still
does) it to itself. For a time they made it insanely easy for people
with abysmal credit to get a cell phone, thinking they could reign these
people in using account spending limits. Even now, it's still easier
for the "credit challenged" to get a line on Sprint than it is anywhere
else. Problem is, this causes more problems than it's worth. I think
Sprint just needs to tighten up its credit class requirements so that
they are more in line with other carriers (i.e. Nextel). If someone
can't pay their bills on time and feels they need a cell phone, that's
what prepaid is for.



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Isaiah Beard wrote:

>> I work in a Sprint retail outlet, I'm sad to say that I see people
>> like this all the time. People that thoroughly believe that I told
>> them that additional lines of service are free. People that come in
>> *****ing at me because their phone got turned off.

It might not have been that they believed it. They might have realized they
screwed up and they might be trying to cover their asses. Of course, it's
entirely possible that they might have believed it too... or maybe they're
really forgetful like I am and forgot exactly what was said to them when
they turned on the service. Lots of potential reasons exist for stuff like this.

>> I had one person say "I don't know how much it is, I don't pay
>> attention to that stuff, just turn it back on" when they came to pay a
>> bill. Amazing.

Nah, not to me. I saw just about everything working 2 1/2 years as a gas
station cashier. Working there or at a grocery store (which I've also done)
is a great way to see a huge cross-section of society. Everyone has to eat,
and a large number of people have to get gas for their cars. You see people
from all walks of life...

> It's people like this who amaze me how they manage to even survive. Do
> these people manage to hold down a job? How do they keep the
> electricity from being turned off? How do other people rely on them for
> ANYTHING?

They might be having a bad day. I try not to go off on people, but I've had
my moments. People (including me) get stupid when they're pissed off.

>> I've noticed through experience that it is moreso people that don't
>> require a deposit with sprint that don't have problems. Reason being?
>> They understand the system. They understand how **** works. They
>> understand the concept of paying bills on time.
>
> Of course, that's what credit scores are for. If one's credit rating is
> poor enough to require a deposit, it's because they have a history being
> unreliable and irresponsible when it comes to committing to something
> fiancially and having to follow through on it.

Right.

>> C, it is people like you (and people like the afforementioned) that
>> give Sprint a bad rep.
>
> Well, I will have to say that Sprint did (and to a lesser extent still
> does) it to itself. For a time they made it insanely easy for people
> with abysmal credit to get a cell phone, thinking they could reign these
> people in using account spending limits. Even now, it's still easier
> for the "credit challenged" to get a line on Sprint than it is anywhere
> else.

Depends. Sprint required my friends who had just opened a business to
deposit $400 per line for either five or ten phones, I forget which.
Cingular didn't (or required a lot less than $400 per line). But that's
business, not consumer, credit...

> they are more in line with other carriers (i.e. Nextel). If someone
> can't pay their bills on time and feels they need a cell phone, that's
> what prepaid is for.

And prepaid is now a lot cheaper than it was a couple years ago. That also
makes it a sensible alternative for people with good credit who just don't
use their phone much.

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