New phone won't act as modem for laptop (RE:)

>Xavier Onassis wrote:
>
> I just replaced my dead LG5350 for a Samsung VGA1000. My LG phone acted as a
> modem for my laptop through a USB cable. I connect that same cable to same
> laptop running WinXP and hear the bell telling me pc sees a connected
> device. But pc won't ever connect to the new phone and initiate the dial-up
> process. "No dial tone detect."
>
> Do I need to change a setting on new phone or something?

"Vision is not available for use with server
devices or host computer applications, other systems that drive
continuous heavy traffic or data sessions, or as substitutes for
private lines or frame relay connections. Unlimited Vision plans/
options may not be used with Sprint PCS phones or smart phones
being used as a modem in connection with other equipment (e.g.,
computers, etc.) "

If sprint finds out you are using your phone as a modem the fraud team
will very quickly cancel the services of all your phones on that
account and you will be responsible for all arising termination fees.

MobiTv however does not put you in any danger, sprint supports it and
we can very easily find out if MobiTV is the cause of the data
Streams.



PS::sorry for starting another thread on this guys but google seems
to be screwed up tonight. any suggestions for a better site or free
client to access usenet ?

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On 8 Jan 2005 20:35:51 -0800, [email protected] (Evil_Tane) wrote:

>PS::sorry for starting another thread on this guys but google seems
>to be screwed up tonight. any suggestions for a better site or free
>client to access usenet ?

Free Agent from Forte is an excellent choice, IMO.
Get it here: http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php

On 8 Jan 2005 20:35:51 -0800, [email protected] (Evil_Tane) wrote:
>If sprint finds out you are using your phone as a modem the fraud team
>will very quickly cancel the services of all your phones on that
>account and you will be responsible for all arising termination fees.
>
>MobiTv however does not put you in any danger, sprint supports it and
>we can very easily find out if MobiTV is the cause of the data
>Streams.

I was at Costco today looking at the new Sanyo 7400, and the Sprint
rep was telling me how I can watch TV on it. That's just great...

But I'd really like someone at Sprint to explain why it's OK with them
to suck up bandwidth watching TV on the phone, but its not OK with
Sprint to hook the phone to a laptop and use a little bandwidth for
some "productive" puroposes, like checking email, accessing websites,
and connecting to the office network to do a little work while
traveling.

I guess Sprint must figure that if you can watch TV, nobody would want
to do work anyway. Or maybe they figure that nobody would want to
access the Internet with a nice 14" LCD display and full keyboard when
it can be done with a handheld device that has a whopping 2" screen
and generous 12-key keypad.


Joseph Huber
[email protected]

I use my 4900 with my laptop computer all the time to read emails and check
the weather on the road. No problem for the last two years.

EB


"Evil_Tane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Xavier Onassis wrote:
> >
> > I just replaced my dead LG5350 for a Samsung VGA1000. My LG phone acted
as a
> > modem for my laptop through a USB cable. I connect that same cable to
same
> > laptop running WinXP and hear the bell telling me pc sees a connected
> > device. But pc won't ever connect to the new phone and initiate the
dial-up
> > process. "No dial tone detect."
> >
> > Do I need to change a setting on new phone or something?
>
> "Vision is not available for use with server
> devices or host computer applications, other systems that drive
> continuous heavy traffic or data sessions, or as substitutes for
> private lines or frame relay connections. Unlimited Vision plans/
> options may not be used with Sprint PCS phones or smart phones
> being used as a modem in connection with other equipment (e.g.,
> computers, etc.) "
>
> If sprint finds out you are using your phone as a modem the fraud team
> will very quickly cancel the services of all your phones on that
> account and you will be responsible for all arising termination fees.
>
> MobiTv however does not put you in any danger, sprint supports it and
> we can very easily find out if MobiTV is the cause of the data
> Streams.
>
>
>
> PS::sorry for starting another thread on this guys but google seems
> to be screwed up tonight. any suggestions for a better site or free
> client to access usenet ?

"Evil_Tane" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> If sprint finds out you are using your phone as a modem the fraud team
> will very quickly cancel the services of all your phones on that
> account and you will be responsible for all arising termination fees.

This is bull. Many people use SprintPCS phones tethered to a laptop.
I've been doing it for years. As long as the use is casual, Sprint will
not come after you.

--
John Richards

"Joseph Huber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 8 Jan 2005 20:35:51 -0800, [email protected] (Evil_Tane) wrote:
>>If sprint finds out you are using your phone as a modem the fraud team
>>will very quickly cancel the services of all your phones on that
>>account and you will be responsible for all arising termination fees.
>>
>>MobiTv however does not put you in any danger, sprint supports it and
>>we can very easily find out if MobiTV is the cause of the data
>>Streams.
>
> I was at Costco today looking at the new Sanyo 7400, and the Sprint
> rep was telling me how I can watch TV on it. That's just great...
>
> But I'd really like someone at Sprint to explain why it's OK with them
> to suck up bandwidth watching TV on the phone, but its not OK with
> Sprint to hook the phone to a laptop and use a little bandwidth for
> some "productive" puroposes, like checking email, accessing websites,
> and connecting to the office network to do a little work while
> traveling.
>
> I guess Sprint must figure that if you can watch TV, nobody would want
> to do work anyway. Or maybe they figure that nobody would want to
> access the Internet with a nice 14" LCD display and full keyboard when
> it can be done with a handheld device that has a whopping 2" screen
> and generous 12-key keypad.
>
>
> Joseph Huber
> [email protected]

I suspect that it has a lot more to do with Sprint's internal product
development business processes than with what you or I would consider to be
logical thinking or technical limitations. I think that either they haven't
fully thought all of this out yet, or that those looking further down the
road have so far been outvoted by those more focused on maximizing quarterly
profits based on existing product ideas, resulting in the current bizarre
mix of innovative products and technologies being bogged down by obsolete
business models.

E.g., as you pointed out, sell phones not only capable of 3G speeds, but of
making good use of this capability, while at the same time make it illegal
to use this capability on any device other than the phone itself, so as to
restrict bandwidth usage. Given the rollout of these potentially
bandwidth-intensive phones, I no longer buy the excuse that they don't allow
modem use because they might hog too much bandwidth. That simply doesn't
make sense in light of this.

Perhaps the real reason is that they can more easily control the rich
multimedia content accessed via phones, and thus more easily charge for it,
whereas it's a lot harder to do this when a phone is used as a modem. If so,
then I think that the solution would be to simply charge users a monthly
premium for modem use, just as they currently charge users to use premium
phone-based services. But, as I said, I'm not sure that their business
development types are as far along as their techies.

Of course, there could certainly be other, legitimate reasons for this that
we're not privy to.

Kovie
[email protected]zen

"Kovie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Joseph Huber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 8 Jan 2005 20:35:51 -0800, [email protected] (Evil_Tane) wrote:
> >>If sprint finds out you are using your phone as a modem the fraud team
> >>will very quickly cancel the services of all your phones on that
> >>account and you will be responsible for all arising termination fees.
> >>
> >>MobiTv however does not put you in any danger, sprint supports it and
> >>we can very easily find out if MobiTV is the cause of the data
> >>Streams.
> >
> > I was at Costco today looking at the new Sanyo 7400, and the Sprint
> > rep was telling me how I can watch TV on it. That's just great...
> >
> > But I'd really like someone at Sprint to explain why it's OK with them
> > to suck up bandwidth watching TV on the phone, but its not OK with
> > Sprint to hook the phone to a laptop and use a little bandwidth for
> > some "productive" puroposes, like checking email, accessing websites,
> > and connecting to the office network to do a little work while
> > traveling.
> >
> > I guess Sprint must figure that if you can watch TV, nobody would want
> > to do work anyway. Or maybe they figure that nobody would want to
> > access the Internet with a nice 14" LCD display and full keyboard when
> > it can be done with a handheld device that has a whopping 2" screen
> > and generous 12-key keypad.
> >
> >
> > Joseph Huber
> > [email protected]
>
> I suspect that it has a lot more to do with Sprint's internal product
> development business processes than with what you or I would consider to
be
> logical thinking or technical limitations. I think that either they
haven't
> fully thought all of this out yet, or that those looking further down the
> road have so far been outvoted by those more focused on maximizing
quarterly
> profits based on existing product ideas, resulting in the current bizarre
> mix of innovative products and technologies being bogged down by obsolete
> business models.
>
> E.g., as you pointed out, sell phones not only capable of 3G speeds, but
of
> making good use of this capability, while at the same time make it illegal
> to use this capability on any device other than the phone itself, so as to
> restrict bandwidth usage. Given the rollout of these potentially
> bandwidth-intensive phones, I no longer buy the excuse that they don't
allow
> modem use because they might hog too much bandwidth. That simply doesn't
> make sense in light of this.

I haven't seen anybody mention the "modem" cards Sprint sells/sold. Do they
not use the same bandwith as the phones would? So again it's just a loophole
for Sprint to use if they want to cancel a person.

In article <[email protected]>, Bryanw20
@remove.Sbcglobal.net says...
> I haven't seen anybody mention the "modem" cards Sprint sells/sold. Do they
> not use the same bandwith as the phones would? So again it's just a loophole
> for Sprint to use if they want to cancel a person.
>

Nah, it's more than that. At least, according to the training they gave
us when I worked there.

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A thing moderately good
is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
+Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+

>> If sprint finds out you are using your phone as a modem the fraud team
>> will very quickly cancel the services of all your phones on that
>> account and you will be responsible for all arising termination fees.

This was very extensively covered early last summer. I occasionally
tether my laptop to my phone. Since I signed up for Vision over two
years ago where before the tethering was explicitly prohibited, that
could be a one-time loophole to get me out of paying extra charges for
past use.

> This is bull. Many people use SprintPCS phones tethered to a laptop.
> I've been doing it for years. As long as the use is casual, Sprint will
> not come after you.