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  1. #1
    Jack Zwick
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    <http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._bi_ge/sbc_at_
    t_4>


    No need for an AT&T Mobile if the SBC purchase goes through.
    In which case their wholesale purchase of SprintPCS network use falls
    through.

    That should hurt Sprint stock today.



    See More: SBC in talks to buy AT&T




  2. #2
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    Jack Zwick wrote:

    > That should hurt Sprint stock today.


    Short seller, are we?

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  3. #3
    Mij Adyaw
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    Why would it hurt Sprint stock? If SBC purchases ATT, won't they still need
    wireless? Does SBC already have wireless? Who do they resell?



    "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Jack Zwick wrote:
    >
    >> That should hurt Sprint stock today.

    >
    > Short seller, are we?
    >
    > --
    > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.






  4. #4
    steve
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    SBC is part owner of Cingular.


    In article <[email protected]>, Mij Adyaw
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Why would it hurt Sprint stock? If SBC purchases ATT, won't they still need
    > wireless? Does SBC already have wireless? Who do they resell?
    >
    >
    >
    > "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Jack Zwick wrote:
    > >
    > >> That should hurt Sprint stock today.

    > >
    > > Short seller, are we?
    > >
    > > --
    > > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.

    >
    >




  5. #5
    Mij Adyaw
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    Why doesn't Verizon buy Sprint? This would make sense since the networks are
    CDMA and all phones would be compatible.


    "steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:270120051416356106%[email protected]
    > SBC is part owner of Cingular.
    >
    >
    > In article <[email protected]>, Mij Adyaw
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Why would it hurt Sprint stock? If SBC purchases ATT, won't they still
    >> need
    >> wireless? Does SBC already have wireless? Who do they resell?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >> > Jack Zwick wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> That should hurt Sprint stock today.
    >> >
    >> > Short seller, are we?
    >> >
    >> > --
    >> > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    >> > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.

    >>
    >>






  6. #6
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > Why would it hurt Sprint stock? If SBC purchases ATT, won't they still need
    > wireless? Does SBC already have wireless? Who do they resell?


    SBC *owns* half of Cingular. BellSouth owns the other half.

    In which case, AT&T will probably not be reselling anyone else's service
    anytime soon.

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    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



  7. #7
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > Why doesn't Verizon buy Sprint? This would make sense since the networks are
    > CDMA and all phones would be compatible.


    It would be a shame if I was forced to leave Sprint because Verizon bought
    them. Verizon seems to flat-out ignore certain less populated markets where
    they ostensibly do business, and that's why I fired them last year. (We're
    small potatoes here compared to Los Angeles, 65 miles away as the crow files,
    or a relatively short 90-minute drive.)

    --
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    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED

    "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



  8. #8
    Mij Adyaw
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    Steve,

    Does SprintPCS provide better service in your area than Verizon? I am in
    Laguna Niguel in Orange County and Sprint provides better service than
    Verizon. Verizon tech support admits that they have coverage problems in LN
    and that they need to install new cell sites.

    -mij



    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Mij Adyaw wrote:
    >> Why doesn't Verizon buy Sprint? This would make sense since the networks
    >> are CDMA and all phones would be compatible.

    >
    > It would be a shame if I was forced to leave Sprint because Verizon bought
    > them. Verizon seems to flat-out ignore certain less populated markets
    > where they ostensibly do business, and that's why I fired them last year.
    > (We're small potatoes here compared to Los Angeles, 65 miles away as the
    > crow files, or a relatively short 90-minute drive.)
    >
    > --
    > JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET (4638)
    > Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    >
    > "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    > Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    > amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)






  9. #9
    Jack Zwick
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Why would it hurt Sprint stock? If SBC purchases ATT, won't they still need
    > wireless? Does SBC already have wireless? Who do they resell?
    >


    Duh. SBC owns the majority share of Cingular. No need then for an AT&T
    Mobile running on the Sprint network.


    > news:[email protected]
    > > Jack Zwick wrote:
    > >
    > >> That should hurt Sprint stock today.




  10. #10
    Jack Zwick
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    In article <270120051416356106%[email protected]>,
    steve <[email protected]> wrote:

    > SBC is part owner of Cingular.
    >

    The majority part. Bell South is the minority other part owner.

    >
    > In article <[email protected]>, Mij Adyaw
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Why would it hurt Sprint stock? If SBC purchases ATT, won't they still need
    > > wireless? Does SBC already have wireless? Who do they resell?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > Jack Zwick wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> That should hurt Sprint stock today.
    > > >
    > > > Short seller, are we?
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > > > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.

    > >
    > >




  11. #11
    Jack Zwick
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Why doesn't Verizon buy Sprint? This would make sense since the networks are
    > CDMA and all phones would be compatible.
    >


    Could happen, or maybe the FTC wouldn't allow it.


    >
    > "steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:270120051416356106%[email protected]
    > > SBC is part owner of Cingular.
    > >
    > >
    > > In article <[email protected]>, Mij Adyaw
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Why would it hurt Sprint stock? If SBC purchases ATT, won't they still
    > >> need
    > >> wireless? Does SBC already have wireless? Who do they resell?
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> "Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >> news:[email protected]
    > >> > Jack Zwick wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> That should hurt Sprint stock today.
    > >> >
    > >> > Short seller, are we?
    > >> >
    > >> > --
    > >> > E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
    > >> > Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.
    > >>
    > >>




  12. #12
    Bob Smith
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T


    "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Why doesn't Verizon buy Sprint? This would make sense since the networks

    are
    > CDMA and all phones would be compatible.


    I don't believe the FTC would allow it, as it would reduce competition.

    Bob





  13. #13
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > Why would it hurt Sprint stock? If SBC purchases ATT, won't they still need
    > wireless? Does SBC already have wireless? Who do they resell?



    SBC is part owner of Cingular.

    However, I have my doubts that a Cingular purchase of AT&T, the landline
    company, would pass regulatory muster.

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  14. #14
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > Why doesn't Verizon buy Sprint? This would make sense since the networks are
    > CDMA and all phones would be compatible.


    Three reasons:

    1. Neither company is interested in merging with each other.

    2. Verizon Wireless is not 100% owned by Verizon. Vodafone owns around
    half of VZW, and Vodafone is not interested in purchasing more CDMA
    assets (in fact, they were interested for a bit in buying AT&T wireless
    and dropping their stake in VZW because they wanted a GSM network in the
    US).

    3. Such a purchase might not pass FCC and Justice Department scrutiny.



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  15. #15
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: SBC in talks to buy AT&T

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > Steve,
    >
    > Does SprintPCS provide better service in your area than Verizon? I am in
    > Laguna Niguel in Orange County and Sprint provides better service than
    > Verizon. Verizon tech support admits that they have coverage problems in LN
    > and that they need to install new cell sites.


    "Better" is subjective.

    Sprint PCS covers Apple Valley much better.

    Verizon covers National Trails Highway (Old US 66) better up to Barstow, which
    is rather surprising as there is almost no one living in the area between
    Victorville and Barstow (Helendale, Silver Lakes, Hodge, etc.) If I need to,
    I'll set my phone to roam on Verizon. Sprint doesn't have service in the small
    towns between VV and Barstow at all.

    Verizon also covers part of Air Expressway (near the old George AFB) where
    Sprint has their only big coverage hole in the area. (I haven't bugged Sprint
    to fix that hole yet. Don't know how quickly they will add the coverage.)

    I left Verizon due to network repair issues, not coverage problems.


    --
    JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET (4638)
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED

    "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



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