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  1. #1
    RN
    Guest
    I want to use my laptop to connect to an existing dial-up internet
    connection, over my new Sanyo MM-7400 cell phone. Is there any way to do
    this? What can I buy and what problems might I face?





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  2. #2
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?


    "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I want to use my laptop to connect to an existing dial-up internet
    > connection, over my new Sanyo MM-7400 cell phone. Is there any way to do
    > this? What can I buy and what problems might I face?


    First thing you need to know is that SPCS does not encourage tethered use to
    cruise the web. In fact, they officially say it's prohibited, or something
    close to that. That doesn't mean you can't do it though. For those of us
    that do it, we do it on occasion and for a limited time, to get email, etc.

    I'd recommend getting Vision on your account if you don't have it already.
    If you don't, it will cost you $0.01/KB for everything you down or upload,
    without Vision on your account.

    Next, you need a USB cable, available @ Radio Shack for appx $20. Then you
    need the phone drivers for your phone. You can get those @
    http://futuredial.com/support/download/USB_Drivers.htm . Once those drivers
    are installed, plug the USB cable into the phone, and then into the laptop.
    Your laptop should recognize new hardware, and you should be able to install
    it with the drivers you've already installed.

    Next, you need to create a new dial up. Leave the user and password fields
    blank, and use #777 as the dial up number. Once that is all done, you should
    be good to go.

    Just keep in mind to keep your usage low when you do this, to keep under
    SPCS's radar. If they do see continuous bandwidth usage coming from your
    phone, they could hit you with on line charges and or cancel the Vision
    option on your account.

    Bob





  3. #3
    RN
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?

    Thanks for the helpful reply. But I don't understand the part about
    creating a new dial-up with #777 as the number and no username and password.
    In my case, using a fake example, I would need to dial:

    212-555-1111 (the dial up number to gets me into the company dial-up system)
    user: JohnSmith
    pass: secretpassword


    So where does the #777 and no username/password come in?


    Thanks.


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > I want to use my laptop to connect to an existing dial-up internet
    > > connection, over my new Sanyo MM-7400 cell phone. Is there any way to

    do
    > > this? What can I buy and what problems might I face?

    >
    > First thing you need to know is that SPCS does not encourage tethered use

    to
    > cruise the web. In fact, they officially say it's prohibited, or something
    > close to that. That doesn't mean you can't do it though. For those of us
    > that do it, we do it on occasion and for a limited time, to get email,

    etc.
    >
    > I'd recommend getting Vision on your account if you don't have it already.
    > If you don't, it will cost you $0.01/KB for everything you down or upload,
    > without Vision on your account.
    >
    > Next, you need a USB cable, available @ Radio Shack for appx $20. Then you
    > need the phone drivers for your phone. You can get those @
    > http://futuredial.com/support/download/USB_Drivers.htm . Once those

    drivers
    > are installed, plug the USB cable into the phone, and then into the

    laptop.
    > Your laptop should recognize new hardware, and you should be able to

    install
    > it with the drivers you've already installed.
    >
    > Next, you need to create a new dial up. Leave the user and password fields
    > blank, and use #777 as the dial up number. Once that is all done, you

    should
    > be good to go.
    >
    > Just keep in mind to keep your usage low when you do this, to keep under
    > SPCS's radar. If they do see continuous bandwidth usage coming from your
    > phone, they could hit you with on line charges and or cancel the Vision
    > option on your account.
    >
    > Bob
    >
    >






  4. #4
    Gene L
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?

    RN wrote:
    > Thanks for the helpful reply. But I don't understand the part about
    > creating a new dial-up with #777 as the number and no username and password.
    > In my case, using a fake example, I would need to dial:
    >
    > 212-555-1111 (the dial up number to gets me into the company dial-up system)
    > user: JohnSmith
    > pass: secretpassword
    >
    >
    > So where does the #777 and no username/password come in?
    >
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >
    > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >
    >>"RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]
    >>
    >>>I want to use my laptop to connect to an existing dial-up internet
    >>>connection, over my new Sanyo MM-7400 cell phone. Is there any way to

    >
    > do
    >
    >>>this? What can I buy and what problems might I face?

    >>
    >>First thing you need to know is that SPCS does not encourage tethered use

    >
    > to
    >
    >>cruise the web. In fact, they officially say it's prohibited, or something
    >>close to that. That doesn't mean you can't do it though. For those of us
    >>that do it, we do it on occasion and for a limited time, to get email,

    >
    > etc.
    >
    >>I'd recommend getting Vision on your account if you don't have it already.
    >>If you don't, it will cost you $0.01/KB for everything you down or upload,
    >>without Vision on your account.
    >>
    >>Next, you need a USB cable, available @ Radio Shack for appx $20. Then you
    >>need the phone drivers for your phone. You can get those @
    >>http://futuredial.com/support/download/USB_Drivers.htm . Once those

    >
    > drivers
    >
    >>are installed, plug the USB cable into the phone, and then into the

    >
    > laptop.
    >
    >>Your laptop should recognize new hardware, and you should be able to

    >
    > install
    >
    >>it with the drivers you've already installed.
    >>
    >>Next, you need to create a new dial up. Leave the user and password fields
    >>blank, and use #777 as the dial up number. Once that is all done, you

    >
    > should
    >
    >>be good to go.
    >>
    >>Just keep in mind to keep your usage low when you do this, to keep under
    >>SPCS's radar. If they do see continuous bandwidth usage coming from your
    >>phone, they could hit you with on line charges and or cancel the Vision
    >>option on your account.
    >>
    >>Bob
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >


    You need to creat a dial up networking session in windows with these
    settings. I cannot remember what it looks like anymore from my 5300 but
    I do remember that you needed to enter #777 in the phone number for
    the modem (in this case your 7400) to dial that out to the network. In
    looking at futuredial's website, the MM-7400 is not listed as having the
    dialer software available from them. I think this is because the
    MM-7400 has the modem feature built into the software of the phone. All
    you should need are the USB drivers so your laptop will see the 7400 as
    a modem.



  5. #5
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?

    In your original post, you said you wanted to get on the internet, not to
    call your company dial-up. The #777 is the access number the phone
    recognizes to access the web.

    Most, if not all new phones, can't dial into anything but the web. My 5300
    doesn't have the capability of dialing into my home office's server. I don't
    know whether they have changed the new phones to allow dial up data calls.

    If your company has a web site, and you can sign in from a regular web page,
    then you should have no problems.

    Bob


    "RN" <[email protected]om> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Thanks for the helpful reply. But I don't understand the part about
    > creating a new dial-up with #777 as the number and no username and

    password.
    > In my case, using a fake example, I would need to dial:
    >
    > 212-555-1111 (the dial up number to gets me into the company dial-up

    system)
    > user: JohnSmith
    > pass: secretpassword
    >
    >
    > So where does the #777 and no username/password come in?
    >
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >
    > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > I want to use my laptop to connect to an existing dial-up internet
    > > > connection, over my new Sanyo MM-7400 cell phone. Is there any way

    to
    > do
    > > > this? What can I buy and what problems might I face?

    > >
    > > First thing you need to know is that SPCS does not encourage tethered

    use
    > to
    > > cruise the web. In fact, they officially say it's prohibited, or

    something
    > > close to that. That doesn't mean you can't do it though. For those of us
    > > that do it, we do it on occasion and for a limited time, to get email,

    > etc.
    > >
    > > I'd recommend getting Vision on your account if you don't have it

    already.
    > > If you don't, it will cost you $0.01/KB for everything you down or

    upload,
    > > without Vision on your account.
    > >
    > > Next, you need a USB cable, available @ Radio Shack for appx $20. Then

    you
    > > need the phone drivers for your phone. You can get those @
    > > http://futuredial.com/support/download/USB_Drivers.htm . Once those

    > drivers
    > > are installed, plug the USB cable into the phone, and then into the

    > laptop.
    > > Your laptop should recognize new hardware, and you should be able to

    > install
    > > it with the drivers you've already installed.
    > >
    > > Next, you need to create a new dial up. Leave the user and password

    fields
    > > blank, and use #777 as the dial up number. Once that is all done, you

    > should
    > > be good to go.
    > >
    > > Just keep in mind to keep your usage low when you do this, to keep under
    > > SPCS's radar. If they do see continuous bandwidth usage coming from your
    > > phone, they could hit you with on line charges and or cancel the Vision
    > > option on your account.
    > >
    > > Bob
    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  6. #6
    RN
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?

    The company's dial-up number I was referring to is an internet access
    dial-up number - like any of the $10 / month dial-up numbers you can use,
    but not a public one.

    So #777 will go through Sprint's Vision service, but I don't have a plan for
    that and I'm not crazy about subscribing or paying 1 penny per kb when I can
    just use the company's dial-up internet number for free. Heck, I'm paying
    Sprint for airtime already so I don't understand why they would disallow it.
    Do you think it will work for me to dial a local data/modem phone number
    like this or do you think the phone or Sprint will disallow anything but
    #777?


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In your original post, you said you wanted to get on the internet, not to
    > call your company dial-up. The #777 is the access number the phone
    > recognizes to access the web.
    >
    > Most, if not all new phones, can't dial into anything but the web. My 5300
    > doesn't have the capability of dialing into my home office's server. I

    don't
    > know whether they have changed the new phones to allow dial up data calls.
    >
    > If your company has a web site, and you can sign in from a regular web

    page,
    > then you should have no problems.
    >
    > Bob
    >
    >
    > "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Thanks for the helpful reply. But I don't understand the part about
    > > creating a new dial-up with #777 as the number and no username and

    > password.
    > > In my case, using a fake example, I would need to dial:
    > >
    > > 212-555-1111 (the dial up number to gets me into the company dial-up

    > system)
    > > user: JohnSmith
    > > pass: secretpassword
    > >
    > >
    > > So where does the #777 and no username/password come in?
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks.
    > >
    > >
    > > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > >
    > > > "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]
    > > > > I want to use my laptop to connect to an existing dial-up internet
    > > > > connection, over my new Sanyo MM-7400 cell phone. Is there any way

    > to
    > > do
    > > > > this? What can I buy and what problems might I face?
    > > >
    > > > First thing you need to know is that SPCS does not encourage tethered

    > use
    > > to
    > > > cruise the web. In fact, they officially say it's prohibited, or

    > something
    > > > close to that. That doesn't mean you can't do it though. For those of

    us
    > > > that do it, we do it on occasion and for a limited time, to get email,

    > > etc.
    > > >
    > > > I'd recommend getting Vision on your account if you don't have it

    > already.
    > > > If you don't, it will cost you $0.01/KB for everything you down or

    > upload,
    > > > without Vision on your account.
    > > >
    > > > Next, you need a USB cable, available @ Radio Shack for appx $20. Then

    > you
    > > > need the phone drivers for your phone. You can get those @
    > > > http://futuredial.com/support/download/USB_Drivers.htm . Once those

    > > drivers
    > > > are installed, plug the USB cable into the phone, and then into the

    > > laptop.
    > > > Your laptop should recognize new hardware, and you should be able to

    > > install
    > > > it with the drivers you've already installed.
    > > >
    > > > Next, you need to create a new dial up. Leave the user and password

    > fields
    > > > blank, and use #777 as the dial up number. Once that is all done, you

    > > should
    > > > be good to go.
    > > >
    > > > Just keep in mind to keep your usage low when you do this, to keep

    under
    > > > SPCS's radar. If they do see continuous bandwidth usage coming from

    your
    > > > phone, they could hit you with on line charges and or cancel the

    Vision
    > > > option on your account.
    > > >
    > > > Bob
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  7. #7
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?


    "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > The company's dial-up number I was referring to is an internet access
    > dial-up number - like any of the $10 / month dial-up numbers you can use,
    > but not a public one.
    >
    > So #777 will go through Sprint's Vision service, but I don't have a plan

    for
    > that and I'm not crazy about subscribing or paying 1 penny per kb when I

    can
    > just use the company's dial-up internet number for free. Heck, I'm

    paying
    > Sprint for airtime already so I don't understand why they would disallow

    it.
    > Do you think it will work for me to dial a local data/modem phone number
    > like this or do you think the phone or Sprint will disallow anything but
    > #777?


    Voice calls are handled differently than data calls. Any data call you make
    will be charged. If you have Vision, you won't be charged any additional
    funds. If you don't, then it's $0.01 per KB. Vision only costs $15 month.

    On pre-Vision phones and plans, i.e. 2G phones, one was able to make data
    calls, with the WW option for $5 a month, where one could use their minutes
    when accessing the web or making a fax call. In saying that, the data speed
    was only 14KB/sec. Vision is much faster.

    What plan are you on now, and what phone do you have?

    Bob





  8. #8
    RN
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > The company's dial-up number I was referring to is an internet access
    > > dial-up number - like any of the $10 / month dial-up numbers you can

    use,
    > > but not a public one.
    > >
    > > So #777 will go through Sprint's Vision service, but I don't have a plan

    > for
    > > that and I'm not crazy about subscribing or paying 1 penny per kb when I

    > can
    > > just use the company's dial-up internet number for free. Heck, I'm

    > paying
    > > Sprint for airtime already so I don't understand why they would disallow

    > it.
    > > Do you think it will work for me to dial a local data/modem phone number
    > > like this or do you think the phone or Sprint will disallow anything but
    > > #777?

    >
    > Voice calls are handled differently than data calls. Any data call you

    make
    > will be charged. If you have Vision, you won't be charged any additional
    > funds. If you don't, then it's $0.01 per KB. Vision only costs $15 month.
    >
    > On pre-Vision phones and plans, i.e. 2G phones, one was able to make data
    > calls, with the WW option for $5 a month, where one could use their

    minutes
    > when accessing the web or making a fax call. In saying that, the data

    speed
    > was only 14KB/sec. Vision is much faster.
    >
    > What plan are you on now, and what phone do you have?
    >
    > Bob
    >
    >



    But effectively this would be a voice call because it is indeed like dialing
    a fax number. I wouldn't be connecting through Sprint's data service. It
    would be like me telling you to dial some fax number manually and hold it up
    to your fax machine. Unless Sprint monitors the calls listening for data,
    it would be a voice call as I see it.

    I just need the occasional connection. I could use the penny per KB and
    dial 777 but I don't know expensive it will turn out to be.

    I have a simple 300 minute / month plan and the Sanyo MM-7400.





  9. #9
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?


    "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > The company's dial-up number I was referring to is an internet access
    > > > dial-up number - like any of the $10 / month dial-up numbers you can

    > use,
    > > > but not a public one.
    > > >
    > > > So #777 will go through Sprint's Vision service, but I don't have a

    plan
    > > for
    > > > that and I'm not crazy about subscribing or paying 1 penny per kb when

    I
    > > can
    > > > just use the company's dial-up internet number for free. Heck, I'm

    > > paying
    > > > Sprint for airtime already so I don't understand why they would

    disallow
    > > it.
    > > > Do you think it will work for me to dial a local data/modem phone

    number
    > > > like this or do you think the phone or Sprint will disallow anything

    but
    > > > #777?

    > >
    > > Voice calls are handled differently than data calls. Any data call you

    > make
    > > will be charged. If you have Vision, you won't be charged any additional
    > > funds. If you don't, then it's $0.01 per KB. Vision only costs $15

    month.
    > >
    > > On pre-Vision phones and plans, i.e. 2G phones, one was able to make

    data
    > > calls, with the WW option for $5 a month, where one could use their

    > minutes
    > > when accessing the web or making a fax call. In saying that, the data

    > speed
    > > was only 14KB/sec. Vision is much faster.
    > >
    > > What plan are you on now, and what phone do you have?
    > >
    > > Bob
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    > But effectively this would be a voice call because it is indeed like

    dialing
    > a fax number. I wouldn't be connecting through Sprint's data service.


    Actually, you would be ... the system knows whether it's a voice or a data
    call. As I said before ...

    > It would be like me telling you to dial some fax number manually and hold

    it up
    > to your fax machine. Unless Sprint monitors the calls listening for data,
    > it would be a voice call as I see it.
    >


    Then you need glasses ... . One thing I didn't mention previously is that
    with Vision, you aren't using any minutes ... it's a flat monthly fee.

    > I just need the occasional connection. I could use the penny per KB and
    > dial 777 but I don't know expensive it will turn out to be.


    Well, you can monitor that from your account information on
    www.sprintpcs.com . Just keep in mind that if you download more than 1 meg,
    it's going to cost $10 ... and downloading 1 meg is nothing, when dealing
    with all those graphics and formatting on web pages.

    > I have a simple 300 minute / month plan and the Sanyo MM-7400.


    Yea, unless you add the Vision option to your account, you will be spending
    some money then.

    Bob





  10. #10
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?


    "Paul Miner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:18:17 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Most, if not all new phones, can't dial into anything but the web. My

    5300
    > >doesn't have the capability of dialing into my home office's server. I

    don't
    > >know whether they have changed the new phones to allow dial up data

    calls.
    >
    > That surprises me, since you can dial any number with a data card and
    > I don't know why/how it would be different with a handset. Wish I
    > could do some testing...:-)


    That's because a data card has different programming ... and is set up with
    it's own plan ... On the data plan, it costs $80/mo. for all you can eat
    internet ... faxing, or calls into a company server.

    Bob





  11. #11
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?

    The only way is to get a PCS Connection Card and for $40 per Mo. you
    get 20MB. For $80 per Mo. you get 300MB. To either you might want to
    add for $5 per Mo. the Business Connection Personal Edition.



  12. #12
    Mij Adyaw
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?

    I thought that for $80 you get unlimited. I had the equivalent service with
    Verizon and it was unlimited. I am considering getting the Sprint data
    service and laptop card.

    -mij

    "Jerome Zelinske" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > The only way is to get a PCS Connection Card and for $40 per Mo. you get
    > 20MB. For $80 per Mo. you get 300MB. To either you might want to add for
    > $5 per Mo. the Business Connection Personal Edition.






  13. #13
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?


    "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I thought that for $80 you get unlimited. I had the equivalent service

    with
    > Verizon and it was unlimited. I am considering getting the Sprint data
    > service and laptop card.
    >
    > -mij


    You can, if you can qualify for a business account -
    http://www.sprint.com/business/produ...VisionPlan.jsp

    Bob





  14. #14
    Joseph Huber
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?

    On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:41:12 -0800, "Mij Adyaw"
    >I thought that for $80 you get unlimited. I had the equivalent service with
    >Verizon and it was unlimited. I am considering getting the Sprint data
    >service and laptop card.


    If all you want to do is #777 to access the Internet, before you buy
    the data card, ask Sprint whether you can just add a data plan for
    your MM-7400. When I was working out my retention deal, the customer
    service rep told me (via email) that since 12/20/2004, Sprint has been
    offering data plans to those with Vision phones so they don't have to
    buy data cards. However, I've not seen this advertised anywhere. The
    pricing emailed to me was as follows:
    $40.00/month- 20 MB
    $60.00/month- 40 MB
    $55.00/month- 50 MB
    $80.00/month- 300 MB

    Joe Huber
    [email protected]



  15. #15
    Frank Thomas
    Guest

    Re: can I connect Sanyo MM-7400 to my laptop for internet?


    "RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > I want to use my laptop to connect to an existing dial-up internet
    > connection, over my new Sanyo MM-7400 cell phone. Is there any way to do
    > this? What can I buy and what problems might I face?


    There are, in general, three ways to connect a laptop to the internet using
    a cell phone:

    1. Dial up your dialup provider with the cell phone in analog mode. I used
    to use a special cellular modem card, and this worked with a nokia phone on
    AT&T. It had no end of problems, speeds were typically 9.6 kbps, and it
    was very difficult to find a provider I could dial into and establish a
    connection with. The only thing that worked most of the time with AT&T in
    analog mode was to dial into AT&T's dialup service. Even so, frequent
    disconnects would occur, or the internet connection would simply stop
    responding. You paid normal per minute cell phone usage charges.

    2. Dialup your dialup provider with cell phone in digital mode. I don't
    really understand this technically, but in order to work, your cell phone
    company had to have what was called CSD enabled on their digitial network,
    and you had to use the right phone to work with it. T-mobile used to have
    something like this, and I believe so did Sprint, didn't they call it the
    Wireless Web? But of course they knew when you were using as it was a
    special thing, and I heard the charges were 38 cents a minute Speeds were
    slightly faster, 14.4 was possible. I understand hardly any providers
    offer CSD service any more. Frustrated with poor performance in analog, I
    tried to make CSD work with T-Mobile and just had no ends of problems with
    drivers and gave up on them.

    3. The other way is to establish a direction IP connection (not sure this
    is quite the right term) , which Sprint uses with CDMA technology, other
    providers, like GSM, do with GPRS. Hands down, the CDMA is the best. I
    find the coverage quite good, and the speeds typically 112 kbs, and easy to
    establish a connection. GPRS they say is slower.

    The only thing I really don't like about using the laptop tethered to the
    phone is it feels like Russian Rouletter. Sprint has this you can use it a
    little but not too much policy or else you might get charged a bundle if you
    don't have vision. I could never figure out whether I was a high user or a
    low user, so I bought the modem card on the $80 unlimited a month plan, use
    it to my hearts content, and it has worked extremly well for me, and my
    bill has no surprises.





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