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  1. #1
    Mij Adyaw
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    A friend has a Sprint Phone and he has told me that sometimes it roams on
    Verizon in analog mode (AMPS) when there is no Sprint service available in
    the area. Since Verizon CDMA is available, why is the phone roaming on
    Verizon AMPS? It does not make sense to me. It seems that the phone should
    see the digital CDMA signal and use it rather that switching to analog mode.

    -mij






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  2. #2
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Sprint Roaming on Verizon

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > A friend has a Sprint Phone and he has told me that sometimes it roams on
    > Verizon in analog mode (AMPS) when there is no Sprint service available in
    > the area. Since Verizon CDMA is available, why is the phone roaming on
    > Verizon AMPS? It does not make sense to me. It seems that the phone should
    > see the digital CDMA signal and use it rather that switching to analog mode.
    >
    > -mij


    Sprint used to only do analog roaming even on compatible digital carriers. The
    theory I've heard is that it was to discredit the other companies by pointing
    out that when you roam on their networks, you had an analog signal that was
    inferior to their digital signal (this was back when they started marketing
    their PCS service). They are now doing digital roaming in some places, and I
    imagine they'll have to add more and more as other carriers stop upgrading
    analog networks, but right now in Southern California, you roam analog where
    there's no Sprint signal (I'm told it's on Verizon).

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    "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



  3. #3
    Mij Adyaw
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Roaming on Verizon

    Analog roaming really sucks because of the privacy issue. Anyone with a
    modified Radio Shack scanner can receive analog cell phone conversations.
    Also, analog roaming drains the battery at 4 to 5 times the normal rate and
    therefore you will have much less talk time. It is really sad that Sprint
    will not roam over Verizon in digital mode. I wonder if there is some phone
    hack to force this?

    -mij

    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Mij Adyaw wrote:
    >> A friend has a Sprint Phone and he has told me that sometimes it roams on
    >> Verizon in analog mode (AMPS) when there is no Sprint service available
    >> in the area. Since Verizon CDMA is available, why is the phone roaming on
    >> Verizon AMPS? It does not make sense to me. It seems that the phone
    >> should see the digital CDMA signal and use it rather that switching to
    >> analog mode.
    >>
    >> -mij

    >
    > Sprint used to only do analog roaming even on compatible digital carriers.
    > The theory I've heard is that it was to discredit the other companies by
    > pointing out that when you roam on their networks, you had an analog
    > signal that was inferior to their digital signal (this was back when they
    > started marketing their PCS service). They are now doing digital roaming
    > in some places, and I imagine they'll have to add more and more as other
    > carriers stop upgrading analog networks, but right now in Southern
    > California, you roam analog where there's no Sprint signal (I'm told it's
    > on Verizon).
    >
    > --
    > JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET (4638)
    > Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    >
    > "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    > Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    > amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)






  4. #4
    Tom85
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Roaming on Verizon

    Were I live Sprint does have any coverage out of town or off the interstate.
    When I roam its always Digital roam. It will sometimes go analog for a few
    minutes but then goes digital. I roam on Cellular one not Verizon.


    "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Analog roaming really sucks because of the privacy issue. Anyone with a
    > modified Radio Shack scanner can receive analog cell phone conversations.
    > Also, analog roaming drains the battery at 4 to 5 times the normal rate
    > and therefore you will have much less talk time. It is really sad that
    > Sprint will not roam over Verizon in digital mode. I wonder if there is
    > some phone hack to force this?
    >
    > -mij
    >
    > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> Mij Adyaw wrote:
    >>> A friend has a Sprint Phone and he has told me that sometimes it roams
    >>> on Verizon in analog mode (AMPS) when there is no Sprint service
    >>> available in the area. Since Verizon CDMA is available, why is the phone
    >>> roaming on Verizon AMPS? It does not make sense to me. It seems that the
    >>> phone should see the digital CDMA signal and use it rather that
    >>> switching to analog mode.
    >>>
    >>> -mij

    >>
    >> Sprint used to only do analog roaming even on compatible digital
    >> carriers. The theory I've heard is that it was to discredit the other
    >> companies by pointing out that when you roam on their networks, you had
    >> an analog signal that was inferior to their digital signal (this was back
    >> when they started marketing their PCS service). They are now doing
    >> digital roaming in some places, and I imagine they'll have to add more
    >> and more as other carriers stop upgrading analog networks, but right now
    >> in Southern California, you roam analog where there's no Sprint signal
    >> (I'm told it's on Verizon).
    >>
    >> --
    >> JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET
    >> (4638)
    >> Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    >>
    >> "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    >> Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    >> amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)

    >
    >






  5. #5
    Atif I. Chaudhry
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Roaming on Verizon

    I have a Treo650 which is digital only and pay the $5/month for roaming.

    When I roam here in upstate New York, it is digitally on Verizon's
    network.

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...
    > Analog roaming really sucks because of the privacy issue. Anyone with a
    > modified Radio Shack scanner can receive analog cell phone conversations.
    > Also, analog roaming drains the battery at 4 to 5 times the normal rate and
    > therefore you will have much less talk time. It is really sad that Sprint
    > will not roam over Verizon in digital mode. I wonder if there is some phone
    > hack to force this?
    >
    > -mij
    >
    > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > >> A friend has a Sprint Phone and he has told me that sometimes it roams on
    > >> Verizon in analog mode (AMPS) when there is no Sprint service available
    > >> in the area. Since Verizon CDMA is available, why is the phone roaming on
    > >> Verizon AMPS? It does not make sense to me. It seems that the phone
    > >> should see the digital CDMA signal and use it rather that switching to
    > >> analog mode.
    > >>
    > >> -mij

    > >
    > > Sprint used to only do analog roaming even on compatible digital carriers.
    > > The theory I've heard is that it was to discredit the other companies by
    > > pointing out that when you roam on their networks, you had an analog
    > > signal that was inferior to their digital signal (this was back when they
    > > started marketing their PCS service). They are now doing digital roaming
    > > in some places, and I imagine they'll have to add more and more as other
    > > carriers stop upgrading analog networks, but right now in Southern
    > > California, you roam analog where there's no Sprint signal (I'm told it's
    > > on Verizon).
    > >
    > > --
    > > JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET (4638)
    > > Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
    > >
    > > "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    > > Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    > > amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)

    >
    >
    >




  6. #6
    Frank Harris
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Roaming on Verizon

    Does your friend keep his phone's PRL up to date? PRL's 10024 and 10025
    added much more digital roaming and changed the priority in many
    roaming situations to prefere digital roaming over analog. If your
    friend's phone has a PRL older than 10024, it is likely to prefer
    analog. Look thru the phone's menus for a 'display...version' or 'phone
    info' menu item that shows the PRL version. See the recent thread
    called "Downloading PRL" for info on how to update a phone's PRL.

    Mij Adyaw wrote:
    > A friend has a Sprint Phone and he has told me that sometimes it roams on
    > Verizon in analog mode (AMPS) when there is no Sprint service available in
    > the area. Since Verizon CDMA is available, why is the phone roaming on
    > Verizon AMPS? It does not make sense to me. It seems that the phone should
    > see the digital CDMA signal and use it rather that switching to analog mode.
    >
    > -mij
    >
    >
    >



    --
    Frank Harris in San Francisco



  7. #7
    Central
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Roaming on Verizon

    On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:38:47 -0800, Mij Adyaw wrote:

    > A friend has a Sprint Phone and he has told me that sometimes it roams on
    > Verizon in analog mode (AMPS) when there is no Sprint service available in
    > the area. Since Verizon CDMA is available, why is the phone roaming on
    > Verizon AMPS? It does not make sense to me. It seems that the phone should
    > see the digital CDMA signal and use it rather that switching to analog mode.
    >
    > -mij


    To roam on Verizon's CDMA network you need two things, A phone capable of
    digital roaming at 800mhz CDMA and a prl entry for that network. Your
    friend probably does not have a tri-band phone and is only capable of
    analog roaming on AMPS at 800mhz and digital roaming on 1900mhz CDMA. Keep
    in mind Verizon's native network is almost always 800mhz CDMA while
    SprintPCS' network is 1900mhz CDMA.




  8. #8
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Roaming on Verizon

    Tom85 wrote:
    > Were I live Sprint does have any coverage out of town or off the interstate.
    > When I roam its always Digital roam. It will sometimes go analog for a few
    > minutes but then goes digital. I roam on Cellular one not Verizon.


    Ahhh. That will work on the CellularONE networks that are CDMA. (Some are; some
    are TDMA/GSM, depending on which company owns the C1 network you're roaming on.)

    Personally, I'm hoping that they will eventually go completely digital except
    perhaps in rural areas where there are no carriers that have digital...

    --
    JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET (4638)
    Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / [email protected] / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED

    "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor
    Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
    amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)



  9. #9
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Roaming on Verizon

    Maybe verizon charges more for digital roaming than amps roaming.



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