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  1. #1
    pb
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    hi all,

    brief recap:
    my phone: nokia 3588i
    plan: f&f

    what is my alternative since sms text messages to
    [email protected] doesn't work, even with the "100 sms text
    messaging" added to the account?

    vision? how much difference in price?

    also, i'm a nokia guy at heart; do any of these 3 new phones coming out
    support vision? 9300, 6255i, 6230?

    thanks again,
    parker






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  2. #2
    pb
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    Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative- vision?

    OR... can someone else with a F&F plan tell me what phone they use to
    successfully receive text messages via [email protected]?
    i'll try a cheapy off ebay first just to satisfy my curiosity as to whether
    this is a phone or network issue...




    "pb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > hi all,
    >
    > brief recap:
    > my phone: nokia 3588i
    > plan: f&f
    >
    > what is my alternative since sms text messages to
    > [email protected] doesn't work, even with the "100 sms
    > text messaging" added to the account?
    >
    > vision? how much difference in price?
    >
    > also, i'm a nokia guy at heart; do any of these 3 new phones coming out
    > support vision? 9300, 6255i, 6230?
    >
    > thanks again,
    > parker
    >
    >
    >






  3. #3
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative- vision?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    >
    > hi all,
    >
    > brief recap:
    > my phone: nokia 3588i
    > plan: f&f
    >
    > what is my alternative since sms text messages to
    > [email protected] doesn't work, even with the "100 sms text
    > messaging" added to the account?
    >
    > vision? how much difference in price?
    >
    > also, i'm a nokia guy at heart; do any of these 3 new phones coming out
    > support vision? 9300, 6255i, 6230?
    >
    > thanks again,
    > parker
    >
    >


    Is this messages *to* you, or messages via the phone's SMS? If it's the
    latter, you don't need that. Just the phone number alone should
    suffice.

    If it's the former, did you know you can turn that off? On the
    SprintPCS web site. For reasons of my own making, I can't access the
    SprintPCS web site right now, so I can't give you precise directions.
    Basically, there's a function if you click on "Text Messaging" (I think)
    called "Settings." It will, repeating: I think, bring you to a multi-
    tabbed page, and one of those pages will include three check boxes. I'm
    betting that at least one of them, referring to email, is NOT check.
    Click the check box to put a check in it. If there's a save function,
    click on it. And that email address should now work.

    HTH


    --
    RØß
    O/Siris
    -+-
    A thing moderately good
    is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+



  4. #4
    pb
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    to o/siris Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative- vision?

    hi rob,

    you left me a couple questions, so let me get them all into one post...


    >Is this messages *to* you, or messages via the phone's SMS? If it's the
    >latter, you don't need that. Just the phone number alone should
    >suffice.


    i'm uneducated on these differences (shortmail, sms). all i'm wanting is to
    allow a program on my computer to automatically send a plain text email to
    my cell phone.



    >If it's the former, did you know you can turn that off? On the
    >SprintPCS web site. For reasons of my own making, I can't access the
    >SprintPCS web site right now, so I can't give you precise directions.
    >Basically, there's a function if you click on "Text Messaging" (I think)
    >called "Settings." It will, repeating: I think, bring you to a multi-
    >tabbed page, and one of those pages will include three check boxes. I'm
    >betting that at least one of them, referring to email, is NOT check.
    >Click the check box to put a check in it. If there's a save function,
    >click on it. And that email address should now work.


    i'm on the spcs website now. i've logged in, and clicked on the link on the
    right that says text messaging. a "compose a message" screen is up, and on
    the left i see a "settings and preferences" link. that takes me to a
    messaging settings screen. i see the 3 horizontal check boxes, under
    "message types." they were all checked. i've unchecked them all, and clicked
    on save all changes. then logged off, signed back in, all the way back to
    the screen, and then rechecked them all. saved again. opened up outlook,
    typed in my [email protected], blah blah in message body, and
    send. so far nothing.






  5. #5
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: to o/siris Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative- vision?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > i'm on the spcs website now. i've logged in, and clicked on the link on the
    > right that says text messaging. a "compose a message" screen is up, and on
    > the left i see a "settings and preferences" link. that takes me to a
    > messaging settings screen. i see the 3 horizontal check boxes, under
    > "message types." they were all checked. i've unchecked them all, and clicked
    > on save all changes. then logged off, signed back in, all the way back to
    > the screen, and then rechecked them all. saved again. opened up outlook,
    > typed in my [email protected], blah blah in message body, and
    > send. so far nothing.
    >
    >


    Oh... well... crap... All I can say at that point is that, when I was
    there, I would have checked for this myself, tried a message to my own
    phone, and then to yours. If no message, then I'd submit a trouble
    ticket to our data department.

    Has it *ever* worked for this phone?

    --
    RØß
    O/Siris
    -+-
    A thing moderately good
    is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+



  6. #6
    Martin Rubin
    Guest

    Re: to o/siris Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative-vision?

    O/Siris wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >
    >>i'm on the spcs website now. i've logged in, and clicked on the link on the
    >>right that says text messaging. a "compose a message" screen is up, and on
    >>the left i see a "settings and preferences" link. that takes me to a
    >>messaging settings screen. i see the 3 horizontal check boxes, under
    >>"message types." they were all checked. i've unchecked them all, and clicked
    >>on save all changes. then logged off, signed back in, all the way back to
    >>the screen, and then rechecked them all. saved again. opened up outlook,
    >>typed in my [email protected], blah blah in message body, and
    >>send. so far nothing.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > Oh... well... crap... All I can say at that point is that, when I was
    > there, I would have checked for this myself, tried a message to my own
    > phone, and then to yours. If no message, then I'd submit a trouble
    > ticket to our data department.
    >
    > Has it *ever* worked for this phone?
    >

    It's not necessary the phone I just sent email to my nokia 3588i at
    [email protected] and the phone received the message.
    Could be that the particular phone is defective or an account setup
    problem. And I don't even have any text messages on my account just use
    it very rarely.



  7. #7
    pb
    Guest

    Re: to o/siris Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative- vision?


    Oh... well... crap... All I can say at that point is that, when I was
    there, I would have checked for this myself, tried a message to my own
    phone, and then to yours. If no message, then I'd submit a trouble
    ticket to our data department.

    Has it *ever* worked for this phone?

    =======================================

    no. never had a reason to try until now.
    this problem has no relation to my f&f plan?
    can you suggest a cheap non-vision phone for me to try to find on ebay, to
    do a ESN swap and prove it's the phone and not the network?


    just received the following "returned mail" from one of my attempts...and
    yes i put in the "x"s.


    The original message was received at Tue, 10 May 2005 11:12:25 -0500 (CDT)
    from msa2-mx.centurytel.net

    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
    <[email protected]com>

    ----- Transcript of session follows -----

    451 4.4.1 reply: read error from mx.messaging.sprintpcs.com.

    <[email protected]>... Deferred: Connection reset by
    mx.messaging.sprintpcs.com.

    Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue





  8. #8
    pb
    Guest

    Re: to o/siris Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative- vision?

    what plan do you have martin?


    "Martin Rubin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >>

    > It's not necessary the phone I just sent email to my nokia 3588i at
    > [email protected] and the phone received the message. Could
    > be that the particular phone is defective or an account setup problem. And
    > I don't even have any text messages on my account just use it very rarely.






  9. #9
    pb
    Guest

    Re: to o/siris Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative- vision?

    wow, just got a message to go through. my centurtel.net isp email server is
    apparently having a problem, or sprint is dening them... but i finally got a
    message through on my gmail account.

    sorry for the hassle all.

    NOW i just need to find out if it's centurytel's problem or sprintpcs'?






  10. #10
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: to o/siris Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative- vision?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > no. never had a reason to try until now.
    > this problem has no relation to my f&f plan?
    > can you suggest a cheap non-vision phone for me to try to find on ebay, to
    > do a ESN swap and prove it's the phone and not the network?
    >
    >
    > just received the following "returned mail" from one of my attempts...and
    > yes i put in the "x"s.
    >


    The message error suggests your phone never received it. But the cause
    can be a bit tricky.

    SMS is automatically setup on the data side of Sprint's system when an
    SMS-compatible phone is activated. Function-wise, it's part of Vision,
    but it operates on its own. So the switch to F&F may have played a
    part, but it isn't the cause.

    If I had to guess (and that's all I've got is a guess), I'd start with
    reprovisioning your phone. First, try swapping back to *any* phone,
    wait 24 hours, and swap back to this one. Another 24 hours, and then
    try to send an SMS. If it works, then it was just a minor data error.
    When I worked there, the provisioning system had a very limited self-
    correcting functionality. If it didn't setup right, it usually STAYED
    not right until one of us Vision techs carried out a
    "deprovision/reprovision." But SMS is both more simple and more
    involved at the same time. It provisions *not* based on Vision, but
    based on the phone. As a tech, I'd have tried the "Depro/Repro"
    (shorter name for it), but warned you that, in 24 hours, if it still
    didn't work, you'd have to call again and have a trouble ticket setup.

    The cheapest non-Vision, SMS-compatible phone I'd expect you'll find is
    the Nokia 3585i. Discontinued, but it got good (if not great) reviews
    while it was selling. The 3588i is functionally identical, and more
    recent. Candybar phones, but decent ones, from what I understand.

    I'd still recommend you try "stepping back" and then forward again as I
    explain above. Maybe that'll fix it.

    --
    RØß
    O/Siris
    -+-
    A thing moderately good
    is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+



  11. #11
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: to o/siris Re: so text messaging won't work, what's my alternative- vision?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > but i finally got a
    > message through on my gmail account.
    >


    LOL, no problem. Glad it's working. I guess you can disregard my last
    then.

    --
    RØß
    O/Siris
    -+-
    A thing moderately good
    is not so good as it ought to be.
    Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
    but moderation in principle is always a vice.
    +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+



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