Sprint and Openwave

On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:47:23 +0000 (UTC), Oleg O. <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In my experience with Sanyo 8200, some sites that used to work fine
>with the old Wireless Web, don't render properly any more (same url).
>American Airlines http://www.aa2go.com/ is one of them. Looks to me
>that the site is sniffing if it's being accessed from a phone or regular
>PC, and returns different pages based on that. And it's not detecting
>PM-8200's browser as a phone, and returns the regular page instead.
>The same could be happening in your case. Not exactly Sprint's fault.

Well, not really. I am not going to give Sprint a pass on this.
I looked at the exact same site on several VZW phones and several
Sprint phones, even one Sprint phone that does have the Openwave
browser. The Sprint representation of the site I looked at (an ebay
auction page) was defective so much as to be unuseable to me. Maybe
others have lower standards, but I doubt it. I am sure the streaming
video works, but I don't care about that on either carrier.

Read some of the thread and you will see my comments. And I tested
pretty thoroughly.

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:47:23 +0000 (UTC), Oleg O. <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>In my experience with Sanyo 8200, some sites that used to work fine
>>with the old Wireless Web, don't render properly any more (same url).
>>American Airlines http://www.aa2go.com/ is one of them. Looks to me
>>that the site is sniffing if it's being accessed from a phone or regular
>>PC, and returns different pages based on that. And it's not detecting
>>PM-8200's browser as a phone, and returns the regular page instead.
>>The same could be happening in your case. Not exactly Sprint's fault.
>
>Well, not really. I am not going to give Sprint a pass on this.
>I looked at the exact same site on several VZW phones and several
>Sprint phones, even one Sprint phone that does have the Openwave
>browser. The Sprint representation of the site I looked at (an ebay
>auction page) was defective so much as to be unuseable to me. Maybe
>others have lower standards, but I doubt it. I am sure the streaming
>video works, but I don't care about that on either carrier.
>
>Read some of the thread and you will see my comments. And I tested
>pretty thoroughly.

I've read the thread, thank you. How do you know that the web site is
not returning different pages to different phones? It could be doing
the sniffing by anything, including the IP address, and not getting it
right for Sprint. If that's the case, what do you propose Sprint should
do? (And I know for sure that that was the case with several sites
that were messed up on my phone. And the symptoms you described are
consistent with that.)

By the way, I just tried the eBay Mobile http://mmm.ebay.com from my
Sprint phone, and it's very usable, with pictures and all. Not perfect,
there are still pieces of script visible here and there, but mostly
pretty nice. And all actions are simple text links. How were you
getting to eBay?

Oleg

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I just went to the ebay site. It looked good on my phone. But,
without a mouse and a real keyboard, going to web sites is a pain. And
the screen is too small.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:17:31 +0000 (UTC), Oleg O.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>By the way, I just tried the eBay Mobile http://mmm.ebay.com from my
>Sprint phone, and it's very usable, with pictures and all. Not perfect,
>there are still pieces of script visible here and there, but mostly
>pretty nice. And all actions are simple text links. How were you
>getting to eBay?

My experience with ebay on the MM7400 is mixed. I'm generally able to
view all auction pages. Straightforward auction pages work the best.
Many auction pages have fancy applets on them, which don't work in the
browser, and many times seem to inhibiting critical buttons like "bid"
from working. I've reported a few of these bugs to both Sprint and
ebay. Sprint says ebay's fault, ebay says its Sprint's fault (I'm
sure this response surprises very few).

If you plan to use ebay over Vision and you expect to be bidding on
something, I'd recommend puttng in a test bid from your phone early in
the auction.

Joe Huber
[email protected]

I don't know if this will help you, but you can try or buy ($20) a
java-app HTML browser for your phone. Take a look at
http://www.reqwireless.com/webviewer.html
I bought it and have used it on a few sites. Haven't tried eBay.

[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:53:38 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>The browser in my Sanyo 7400 performs exceptionally fast. It is much faster
>>than a friends LG 6100 on Verizon.
>
>
> It's not the speed.
>
> It's the representation of the website on Sprint compared to the new
> VZW phones with Openwave. Not that there aren't likely websites that
> Sprint does represent OK, just that I haven't seen them. The Sprint
> browser technology needs work.
>

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