bitpim

I downloaded bitpim recently. There's a (relatively) new
version. The phonebook and wallpaper work fine. I'm a little
puzzled about ringtones. The help file says that for
wallpaper bitpim _converts_ your file to the proper format
for the phone. It doesn't say that it does that for ringtones.

What is commonly used to convert cda/mp3/wav files to the
apparently required mid files?

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"ll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I downloaded bitpim recently. There's a (relatively) new
> version. The phonebook and wallpaper work fine. I'm a little
> puzzled about ringtones. The help file says that for
> wallpaper bitpim _converts_ your file to the proper format
> for the phone. It doesn't say that it does that for ringtones.
>
> What is commonly used to convert cda/mp3/wav files to the
> apparently required mid files?

Bitpim offers tech support through a listserv. If you haven't posted there
yet, check out http://bitpim.sourceforge.net/testhelp/ , find the info on
your particular phone model, and if you can't find the info you need, then
register for their listserv, and post your inquiry.

Bob

Thanks for the info. I'll do that.
Let me ask my question(s) another way.

Has anyone in this NG used bitpim to send a ringtone
to your phone?

If yes, what brand/model phone?

Was the ringtone file that you dragged into the bitpim window
already a .mid file?

How do you create .mid files from your cda/mp3/wma files?

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:27:53 -0700, <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Has anyone in this NG used bitpim to send a ringtone
>to your phone?

Yes.

>If yes, what brand/model phone?

Sanyo MM7400.

>Was the ringtone file that you dragged into the bitpim window
>already a .mid file?

Well, I bought the Batman theme ringtone from Sprint, which showed up
as a midi ringtone in bitpim. It seemed to me that the percussion
tracks were somewhat boring, so I downloaded the Batman ringer from
the MM7400 to my PC, jazzed up the percussion tracks and made some
other minor changes with my midi software, and uploaded the ringtone
back to the MM7400 as midi.

Joe Huber
[email protected]

Joseph Huber wrote:
> Yes.
> Sanyo MM7400.
> I bought the Batman theme ringtone from Sprint, which showed up
> as a midi ringtone in bitpim.

Thanks for the info. I'm just totally puzzled by all of this.
The phonebook and wallpaper worked easily. Then I tried to
get a ringer to the phone, have worked hard for _lots_ of hours
trying to make it work, and no results.

I purchase all of my music. The various news sources make it
clear that I may well be in the minority these days. And all
I want to do is load a 30 second clip on my phone.
And nothing works.

I've done google searches, I've read the back archives on bitpim,
I've experimented endlessly. Nothing works.
win xp home + sp1, bitpim 0.7.33, Sanyo scp-5500 (Sprint VM4500)

I have (purchased) Ahead Nero which reads and writes in many
formats, but not .mid. _That_ appears to be the basic problem.

For all of us who have a gazillion CDs, everything is in .cda.
That shouldn't be a problem. I can write mp3, mp4, wma, wav,
and many more formats. But not midi. Nobody but musicians and
cell phones appear to be midi oriented. I got a freeware qcp
translator. That didn't work either. The cell phone manufacturers
don't document _all_ of the necessary information. That has
resulted in a huge amount of largely contradictory opinions
(unfounded beliefs, in many cases) on the internet. Some believe
that mp3 works. Some that mp3 simply renamed as .mid works.
Some that file size as small as 16k for a _ringer_ works.
(Even shortened and converted to mono I've never gotten a ringer
file that small.) Converting to mono (probably necessary).
16k resolution and 16 bit depth. No, it's 8k resolution
and 16 bit depth. No, it's 144k resolution. Everyone has an
opinion, most are contradictory, and none of them work
(if you don't start out with midi).

I wonder how much the cell phone carriers paid the cell phone
manufacturers to obscure this issue this badly.
$2.50 for three months for a ringer I don't even want.
Even our teenager refuses to do that any more. Even at his
tender age he recognizes it as a ripoff.
Follow the money.

> I wonder how much the cell phone carriers paid the cell phone
> manufacturers to obscure this issue this badly.
> $2.50 for three months for a ringer I don't even want.
> Even our teenager refuses to do that any more. Even at his
> tender age he recognizes it as a ripoff.
> Follow the money.

The ringtone will play on your phone as long as you own THAT phone (no
90 day restriction). Should you need to reset he memory to default
status or transfer your settings and ringtones to a upgrade or new
phone you will loose the ringtone

> I wonder how much the cell phone carriers paid the cell phone
> manufacturers to obscure this issue this badly.
> $2.50 for three months for a ringer I don't even want.
> Even our teenager refuses to do that any more. Even at his
> tender age he recognizes it as a ripoff.
> Follow the money.

The ringtone will play on your phone as long as you own THAT phone (no
90 day restriction). Should you need to reset he memory to default
status or transfer your settings and ringtones to a upgrade or new
phone you will loose the ringtone

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> > I wonder how much the cell phone carriers paid the cell phone
> > manufacturers to obscure this issue this badly.
> > $2.50 for three months for a ringer I don't even want.
> > Even our teenager refuses to do that any more. Even at his
> > tender age he recognizes it as a ripoff.
> > Follow the money.
>
> The ringtone will play on your phone as long as you own THAT phone (no
> 90 day restriction). Should you need to reset he memory to default
> status or transfer your settings and ringtones to a upgrade or new
> phone you will loose the ringtone

To add a little bit to this, the length of time mentioned above - 3 months,
is the length of time the ringer is stored in a customer's Content Manager
on one of SPCS's servers. It has an expiration date applied to it, so that
SPCS won't have to keep increasing server HD space on their end.

Bob

After considerable trial and error I have _finally_
been able to download ringers to my Sanyo scp-5500.
The following is _not_ a definitive solution. It is just
the first one that I have been able to make work.

Save your 30 second (or less) audio source file into
8,000 frequency, 16 bit depth, mono with .wav format.
(I have tried 16k-16bit-mono and that does not work.)

Use Qualcomm's Pure Voice to convert the file to .qcp format.

Use either sprintpcsinfo.com or rumkin.com to send the
file to your cell phone.