Treo 650 vs Blackberry

I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming from a
different angle.

I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and dates &
contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you with
experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry would
be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.

Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones) fragile or
so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.

Thanks

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› See More: Treo 650 vs Blackberry

I think of them this way

Treo: Nice phone that does OK email.
BB: Great email device that can also be an OK phone.

We looked at BB (using BES), Treo (using Good), and Windows Mobile (Using
ActiveSync) and chose the BB hands down for the mobile email.


"Scot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming from
> a different angle.
>
> I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and dates &
> contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you with
> experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry would
> be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.
>
> Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones) fragile or
> so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.
>
> Thanks
>

I don't have a Treo but a Samsung i500 (another Palm Smartphone) and I've
had the BB 7510. The BB was without a doubt the worst phone I ever owned and
the i500 the best. Not only is the BB a piece of crap but I got a very poor
signal and I could not find any decent software for it and the few titles I
did find were extremely expensive. My BB broke twice in a mere four months
and both were warranty repairs that Nextel wanted me to pay $35 to have
fixed OR wait two weeks and send it back to RIM for a replacement, not even
the same phone. With Sprint whenever I had to bring in a phone for warranty
repair the most I had to wait was one day and they gave me a brand new one
with no questions after they checked it out.

"Scot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming from
a
> different angle.
>
> I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and dates &
> contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you with
> experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry would
> be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.
>
> Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones) fragile or
> so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.
>
> Thanks
>
>

With my Samsung i500 Smartphone and napper Mail I have better versatility
with email than the BBs. The BB check email everyt 15 minutes weather you
want it to or not (drastically decrease battery life), I can set up any
schedule I want. If I want it to check every five mimutes I can, if I want
it to check every two hours between 8 am and 5 pm I can. You can't do that
with the BBs.

"Skorkles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think of them this way
>
> Treo: Nice phone that does OK email.
> BB: Great email device that can also be an OK phone.
>
> We looked at BB (using BES), Treo (using Good), and Windows Mobile (Using
> ActiveSync) and chose the BB hands down for the mobile email.
>
>
> "Scot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming
from
> > a different angle.
> >
> > I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and dates
&
> > contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you with
> > experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry
would
> > be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.
> >
> > Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones) fragile
or
> > so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
>

I'm not familiar with how the BB works with internet mail. I use mine with
BES, so the email is almost instantaneous.

"Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With my Samsung i500 Smartphone and napper Mail I have better versatility
> with email than the BBs. The BB check email everyt 15 minutes weather you
> want it to or not (drastically decrease battery life), I can set up any
> schedule I want. If I want it to check every five mimutes I can, if I want
> it to check every two hours between 8 am and 5 pm I can. You can't do that
> with the BBs.
>
> "Skorkles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I think of them this way
>>
>> Treo: Nice phone that does OK email.
>> BB: Great email device that can also be an OK phone.
>>
>> We looked at BB (using BES), Treo (using Good), and Windows Mobile (Using
>> ActiveSync) and chose the BB hands down for the mobile email.
>>
>>
>> "Scot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming
> from
>> > a different angle.
>> >
>> > I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and
>> > dates
> &
>> > contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you with
>> > experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry
> would
>> > be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.
>> >
>> > Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones) fragile
> or
>> > so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Scot wrote:
> I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming from a
> different angle.
>
> I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and dates &
> contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you with
> experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry would
> be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.

It depends on how happy you are with the interface. If you like the
look and feel of PalmOS, then you're going to have some trouble
swtiching over to Balckberry, which has a more restrictive (although
functional) feel to it. If you don't like PalmOS, then Blackberry might
be up your alley.

I've used the traditional blackberry.net version running off Mobitex, as
well as the Nextel version, and the 7100 on GSM. I have never used the
CDMA variant, so I can't say either way whether its signal strength is
good or not.


> Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones) fragile or
> so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.

FWIW, I found that the the Tro650 on Sprint was very pessimistic about
signal strength, but would almost always hold the signal, no matter how
weak it said it was. However, the downside was that when it said there
was no service, then there was DEFINITELY no service.

As far as fragility, I discovered that the Treo650 was FAR more rugged
than it appeared to be. The outer plastic has its fit & finish issues
(i.e. battery doors creakyness and such), but in spite of that, My Treo
took a major beating and still came out of it just fine.

You're right about the random resets though; that IS very annoying, and
I wish palmOne would do something about it.


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I'm confused (easy to do) about your reference to the BB checking mail. The
difference between a smartphone, and the BB (among others) is this: The BB
server can be configured to have mail "pushed" to your phone. When mail
comes in, it goes to your phone, think of it as real-time.

Smartphones traditionally "pull" their mail. Based on a schedule, or on
demand, you go get your mail. Think of this as batch.

Then there is the fact that email on a BB is encrypted; and if you loose
your BB, then you can trigger a complete erase of the BB's data. For
hardcore business/email, the BB has no match.

Me, I like my palm based smartphone. I am not a BB fan, but there is a big
difference between how they work, and a smartphone. Email is but one. dr.
--
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"Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> With my Samsung i500 Smartphone and napper Mail I have better versatility
> with email than the BBs. The BB check email everyt 15 minutes weather you
> want it to or not (drastically decrease battery life), I can set up any
> schedule I want. If I want it to check every five mimutes I can, if I want
> it to check every two hours between 8 am and 5 pm I can. You can't do that
> with the BBs.
>
> "Skorkles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I think of them this way
>>
>> Treo: Nice phone that does OK email.
>> BB: Great email device that can also be an OK phone.
>>
>> We looked at BB (using BES), Treo (using Good), and Windows Mobile (Using
>> ActiveSync) and chose the BB hands down for the mobile email.
>>
>>
>> "Scot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming
> from
>> > a different angle.
>> >
>> > I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and
>> > dates
> &
>> > contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you with
>> > experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry
> would
>> > be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.
>> >
>> > Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones) fragile
> or
>> > so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>

Some people don't need to check email every 15 minutes. If I were to send an
email to a BB it would not get there right away, it would be delievered when
the BB requested it from the server, which is every 15 minutes. Nextel's BB
Support confirmed this after I asked them about it. And there is no way to
change it. If you're using your own company's server, then that's another
story. The every 15 minute check drastically decreases it's battery life. I
had to charge mine every night because I could not go two days without a
charge. With my Sprint i500 Smartphone I can remotely lock the phone by
logging into Sprint's website AND I have password protection on sensitive
programs on the phone. So, the only thing left is encrypted email... well,
it's very simply to do that too.... if you own your own domain you can run
your own mail server. Problem solved and I have a better device that I don't
have to worry will break every two months AND be charged for warranty repair
AND pay an outrageous prices for email and net access. So, can anyone give
me one good reason why a Black Berry is better than a Palm Smartphone that
has not been addressed yet?

Here's to recoop why Samsung's i500 on Sprint is better than the BB7510 on
Nextel.
1) Better signal strength
2) Better battery life
3) Better customized email checking
4) More and cheaper available applications
5) Doesn't break down
6) Won't be charged for warranty repair
7) Can be made MORE secure with third party apps.
8) Can have access to enterprise servers just as any BB AND still have the
same security features.
9) Can hotsync over the internet via secure server
10) Smaller
11) It has a nicer screen
12 The interface has been proven to be easier to learn to use since it's the
Palm platform.

Have I forgot anything? Those that like them can keep them. Personally I
think the Blackberries are crap and way over priced. The reason why people
'think' Blackberries are better for email has everything to do with
marketing, nothing more.

"dr.news" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm confused (easy to do) about your reference to the BB checking mail.
The
> difference between a smartphone, and the BB (among others) is this: The
BB
> server can be configured to have mail "pushed" to your phone. When mail
> comes in, it goes to your phone, think of it as real-time.
>
> Smartphones traditionally "pull" their mail. Based on a schedule, or on
> demand, you go get your mail. Think of this as batch.
>
> Then there is the fact that email on a BB is encrypted; and if you loose
> your BB, then you can trigger a complete erase of the BB's data. For
> hardcore business/email, the BB has no match.
>
> Me, I like my palm based smartphone. I am not a BB fan, but there is a
big
> difference between how they work, and a smartphone. Email is but one.
dr.
> --
> dr.news Better Price? (not better than you deserve, just more than you
are
> used to)
> If I can help: [email protected]te-the-obvious or thru this
> notes forum.
> home of the better priced phone and service:
> http://free.better-price.biz
>
> "Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > With my Samsung i500 Smartphone and napper Mail I have better
versatility
> > with email than the BBs. The BB check email everyt 15 minutes weather
you
> > want it to or not (drastically decrease battery life), I can set up any
> > schedule I want. If I want it to check every five mimutes I can, if I
want
> > it to check every two hours between 8 am and 5 pm I can. You can't do
that
> > with the BBs.
> >
> > "Skorkles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> I think of them this way
> >>
> >> Treo: Nice phone that does OK email.
> >> BB: Great email device that can also be an OK phone.
> >>
> >> We looked at BB (using BES), Treo (using Good), and Windows Mobile
(Using
> >> ActiveSync) and chose the BB hands down for the mobile email.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Scot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> > I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming
> > from
> >> > a different angle.
> >> >
> >> > I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and
> >> > dates
> > &
> >> > contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you with
> >> > experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry
> > would
> >> > be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.
> >> >
> >> > Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones)
fragile
> > or
> >> > so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>

"Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Here's to recoop why Samsung's i500 on Sprint is better than the BB7510 on
>Nextel.

That was good info!!

Thanks

I'm thinking of getting a Treo 6750 for myself.
Strictly personal use only.

I'm a busy student.

Think that's a good idea?

John

A friend of mine has the Treo 600 and he likes it. I feel it's a bit on the
bulky side to use as a phone in my opinion but it works for him. I have a
Tungsten C so I use the C for all my big apps and games and use the i500 for
stuff I just can't do without. I have no need to bring my TC with me when
I'm riding my motorcycle so the smallness of the i500 fits my needs
perfectly. The only drawback in my opinion is there is only 16MB ram and no
SD Card slot (and no speaker phone also but I think those will be addressed
in the next version of their Smartphone).

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> "Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Here's to recoop why Samsung's i500 on Sprint is better than the BB7510
on
> >Nextel.
>
> That was good info!!
>
> Thanks
>
> I'm thinking of getting a Treo 6750 for myself.
> Strictly personal use only.
>
> I'm a busy student.
>
> Think that's a good idea?
>
> John

By the way, I'm glad you found my information helpful.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> "Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Here's to recoop why Samsung's i500 on Sprint is better than the BB7510
on
> >Nextel.
>
> That was good info!!
>
> Thanks
>
> I'm thinking of getting a Treo 6750 for myself.
> Strictly personal use only.
>
> I'm a busy student.
>
> Think that's a good idea?
>
> John

$35 to have it replaced? Sounds like you didn't have the Nextel Service
Plan on your account. That would have covered it.. It did every time I
needed mine replaced.


"Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I don't have a Treo but a Samsung i500 (another Palm Smartphone) and I've
> had the BB 7510. The BB was without a doubt the worst phone I ever owned
> and
> the i500 the best. Not only is the BB a piece of crap but I got a very
> poor
> signal and I could not find any decent software for it and the few titles
> I
> did find were extremely expensive. My BB broke twice in a mere four months
> and both were warranty repairs that Nextel wanted me to pay $35 to have
> fixed OR wait two weeks and send it back to RIM for a replacement, not
> even
> the same phone. With Sprint whenever I had to bring in a phone for
> warranty
> repair the most I had to wait was one day and they gave me a brand new one
> with no questions after they checked it out.
>
> "Scot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming from
> a
>> different angle.
>>
>> I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and dates
>> &
>> contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you with
>> experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry
>> would
>> be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.
>>
>> Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones) fragile
>> or
>> so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
>

This is incorrect in all instances. The BlackBerry web client and the BES
server, to my knowledge and experience both support PUSH email. I know for
a fact the web client does because that's what I use. Granted my BB is on
Tmo (7100t), and yours is on Nextel. But I know several people that have
7510's and 7520's with Nextel and they have always on, instant PUSH email as
well as I do, so I know this isn't a carrier setting. What i'm thinking
your problem is.. is this.... you are referring to when the BB server (or
web client) polls other POP email accounts. That can only be done every 15
minutes as far as I know. Once the server retreives those emails, it then
PUSHs them to your BB device. Rather than using the BB server to poll other
POP email boxes, why don't you have your other email providers set a forward
tag on your emails accounts so that a copy of all incoming email is
automatically forwarded directly to your
[email protected] email address, then you won't have
to wait 15 minutes to receive emails (if that's a problem).

I have a Treo 650 with Sprint, using Chatter E-mail and an IMAP mail account
on my own person mail server... I also have that BB 7100t on Tmo. Currently
I have my mail server set to put all incoming mail both in the IMAP folder
that the Treo checks and it also forwards all incoming email to my bb
address. It's 50/50 on which is faster (since they are basically the same
and they are both PUSH). How-some-ever... they are not the same in the
sense that my Treo resets itself at least 2-3 times a day, sometimes while
I'm using it and sometimes while it's sitting in idle not doing anything. I
have never, once, yet seen my BB 7100t reset itself.

As for the other stuff.... what do you do with your phone (BB) that it
breaks every two months? Again, I know several people that have BB 7510's
from Nextel that have had them for alot longer than 2 months and they still
look brank spanking new and work perfectly. One of your problems (IMO) is
that you're using a BB with Nextel. Nextel is a good service provider if
you're in a good area.. but they're BB plans are super expensive. If you're
wanting a BB for email, you should look at Tmobile. Standalone unlimited BB
email (without a voice plan) is $29.99/month... If you add a voice plan, the
BB plan drops to $19.99/month for unlimited email. I don't know of any other
provider that offers BB services for that cheap. And again, as for getting
charged $35 per repair, just add the $2.99 or whatever it is Nextel Service
Plan (NSP) to your account and that will take care of those $35 every 2
months charges (will it'll cost you $6 instead of $35 for the 2 months)....

Here are some other reasons why the BB (my 7100t) is better than my Treo
650.

The last time my BB saw it's charger was 3 days ago.. and it still has one
bar left.. I should probably charge it tonight.
The last time my Treo 650 saw it's charger was about 3 hours ago, before I
left to come to work. This is a repeating even every night (not that it's a
problem, but it certainly shows you that the Treo's battery does not last as
long as the BB's)

The BB has a super stable, rock solid, easy to use OS that does not reset
out of the blue
The Treo has a stable, solid, easy to use OS (notice the missing super and
rock).... and the Treo resets all by itself several times a day

The BB's keyboard is easier to type on... even the "weird" 7100t keyboard is
quick to type on.
The Treo's keyboard is very usable, but the keys are quite small. I don't
have very large fingers and I constantly find myself doubling up on keys. In
order to correct this I have to slow myself way way down from what I'm used
to.

The BB has a scroll wheel... which makes reading/scrolling/searching through
long emails a breeze
The Treo has a 5 way pad, which is usable, but I tell you what... it takes
alot longer to scroll with the pad than it does with the wheel.

The BB's built in email application works awesomely, flawlessly, and just
rocks.
The Treo's built in email application (VersaMail) is a complete joke IMO. I
went with Chatter Email for email on my Treo.

The BB out of the box, gives you the ability to notate a phone call.. this
is a very handy feature for keeping notes on what happened during a phone
call, what was talked about, etc etc
The Treo does not give you this ability without additional software.

BB has a feature called BlackBerry messenger. Basically, it's free IM/two
way messaging between any and all blackberry users (using their BB pin)...
same or different service providers, doesn't matter, just need their BB pin
to use it.
The Treo or any other smart phone for that matter does not offer this
ability.

I'm sure I could think of a few more things, but I have to get to work.. my
BB has a growing list of emails waiting to be answered from people at work
:-D



"Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Some people don't need to check email every 15 minutes. If I were to send
> an
> email to a BB it would not get there right away, it would be delievered
> when
> the BB requested it from the server, which is every 15 minutes. Nextel's
> BB
> Support confirmed this after I asked them about it. And there is no way to
> change it. If you're using your own company's server, then that's another
> story. The every 15 minute check drastically decreases it's battery life.
> I
> had to charge mine every night because I could not go two days without a
> charge. With my Sprint i500 Smartphone I can remotely lock the phone by
> logging into Sprint's website AND I have password protection on sensitive
> programs on the phone. So, the only thing left is encrypted email... well,
> it's very simply to do that too.... if you own your own domain you can run
> your own mail server. Problem solved and I have a better device that I
> don't
> have to worry will break every two months AND be charged for warranty
> repair
> AND pay an outrageous prices for email and net access. So, can anyone give
> me one good reason why a Black Berry is better than a Palm Smartphone that
> has not been addressed yet?
>
> Here's to recoop why Samsung's i500 on Sprint is better than the BB7510 on
> Nextel.
> 1) Better signal strength
> 2) Better battery life
> 3) Better customized email checking
> 4) More and cheaper available applications
> 5) Doesn't break down
> 6) Won't be charged for warranty repair
> 7) Can be made MORE secure with third party apps.
> 8) Can have access to enterprise servers just as any BB AND still have the
> same security features.
> 9) Can hotsync over the internet via secure server
> 10) Smaller
> 11) It has a nicer screen
> 12 The interface has been proven to be easier to learn to use since it's
> the
> Palm platform.
>
> Have I forgot anything? Those that like them can keep them. Personally I
> think the Blackberries are crap and way over priced. The reason why people
> 'think' Blackberries are better for email has everything to do with
> marketing, nothing more.
>
> "dr.news" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm confused (easy to do) about your reference to the BB checking mail.
> The
>> difference between a smartphone, and the BB (among others) is this: The
> BB
>> server can be configured to have mail "pushed" to your phone. When mail
>> comes in, it goes to your phone, think of it as real-time.
>>
>> Smartphones traditionally "pull" their mail. Based on a schedule, or on
>> demand, you go get your mail. Think of this as batch.
>>
>> Then there is the fact that email on a BB is encrypted; and if you loose
>> your BB, then you can trigger a complete erase of the BB's data. For
>> hardcore business/email, the BB has no match.
>>
>> Me, I like my palm based smartphone. I am not a BB fan, but there is a
> big
>> difference between how they work, and a smartphone. Email is but one.
> dr.
>> --
>> dr.news Better Price? (not better than you deserve, just more than you
> are
>> used to)
>> If I can help: [email protected]te-the-obvious or thru
>> this
>> notes forum.
>> home of the better priced phone and service:
>> http://free.better-price.biz
>>
>> "Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > With my Samsung i500 Smartphone and napper Mail I have better
> versatility
>> > with email than the BBs. The BB check email everyt 15 minutes weather
> you
>> > want it to or not (drastically decrease battery life), I can set up any
>> > schedule I want. If I want it to check every five mimutes I can, if I
> want
>> > it to check every two hours between 8 am and 5 pm I can. You can't do
> that
>> > with the BBs.
>> >
>> > "Skorkles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> I think of them this way
>> >>
>> >> Treo: Nice phone that does OK email.
>> >> BB: Great email device that can also be an OK phone.
>> >>
>> >> We looked at BB (using BES), Treo (using Good), and Windows Mobile
> (Using
>> >> ActiveSync) and chose the BB hands down for the mobile email.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Scot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> news:[email protected]...
>> >> > I've asked this question before but now I have a 650 so it is coming
>> > from
>> >> > a different angle.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am finding that I only use my 650 for e-mail, occasional web and
>> >> > dates
>> > &
>> >> > contacts, ok and sometimes a phone. Knowig that do those of you
>> >> > with
>> >> > experience with both or a Blackberry feel the a move to a Blackberry
>> > would
>> >> > be a good one or abou the same as the Treo.
>> >> >
>> >> > Problems with the treo, poor signal (compared to Sprint phones)
> fragile
>> > or
>> >> > so it seems, Occasional reseets while checking mail or web.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>

"Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote:

> use the i500 for
>stuff I just can't do without.

I see

Not a bad idea.

Maybe I should look into the i500 over the Treo 650?

John

[email protected] wrote:
>
> "Scooterflex" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > use the i500 for
> >stuff I just can't do without.
>
> I see
>
> Not a bad idea.
>
> Maybe I should look into the i500 over the Treo 650?

Holy ****, John. May I make a suggestion? Never buy a dog.
With you never being able to decide on ANYTHING, and,
consequently the dog's name, the poor thing will probably
be so confused it'll commit suicide.

For the sake of the dog, DON'T BUY IT!!!

Notan