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  1. #1
    Pat Cook
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    Hi everyone:

    I'm in the hunt for a new phone as my current one is just about two
    years old (which is as long as I've been with Sprint). It's so old that
    every time I close the flap on my Samsung N400, the phone shuts itself off.

    I'm looking for a phone that...

    * Isn't a flip phone (This is a MUST!!)
    * Has Nextel Walkie-Talkie support
    * PCS Vision
    * Large Buttons (This is also MUST!!)
    * Wireless Internet capability (i.e. Broadband)
    * Comes with its own belt clip & cover (This is also a MUST!!)

    NOT looking for a used phone. But am interested in reviews (pro and
    con) on the latest phones so that I can make the right choice based on
    other peoples' experience as well as my own needs.

    Look forward to everyone's replies

    Cheers for now

    Pat Cook
    Denver, Colorado



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  2. #2

    Re: Best Of The Newest Phones

    I don't think you can currently get a Sprint phone that has Nextel
    walkie talkie support. You can get a Sprint phone that has sprint
    walkie talkie support. Or a Nextel phone (but won't have Vision). In
    the future there will be CDMA/IDEN combination phones.




  3. #3
    DecTxCowboy
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    Re: Best Of The Newest Phones

    Pat Cook wrote:
    > * Isn't a flip phone (This is a MUST!!)

    Personal perference...That's OK
    > * Has Nextel Walkie-Talkie support

    Nextel "like"...Most new Sprint phones have it.
    Or true interoperbility with Nextel...Not available yet.
    > * PCS Vision

    The rules out a true Nextel phone.
    > * Large Buttons (This is also MUST!!)

    Large buttons or easy to use buttons? I've seen some Nokia and Motorola
    phones with some pretty big (and not of uniform size) buttons that are
    terrible to use.
    > * Wireless Internet capability (i.e. Broadband)

    I assume you mean teathered to a laptop.
    Most Sprint phone can be used as a modem (Yeah, I know what the TOS
    says), but figure on half the advertised 115K (?) advertised speed.
    True broadband like as in 11 MBps or 54 MBps Wifi? Maybe next year.
    > * Comes with its own belt clip & cover (This is also a MUST!!)

    You can always go after-market.



  4. #4
    Zman
    Guest

    Re: Best Of The Newest Phones

    Doesn't exist.
    "Pat Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Hi everyone:
    >
    > I'm in the hunt for a new phone as my current one is just about two
    > years old (which is as long as I've been with Sprint). It's so old that
    > every time I close the flap on my Samsung N400, the phone shuts itself

    off.
    >
    > I'm looking for a phone that...
    >
    > * Isn't a flip phone (This is a MUST!!)
    > * Has Nextel Walkie-Talkie support
    > * PCS Vision
    > * Large Buttons (This is also MUST!!)
    > * Wireless Internet capability (i.e. Broadband)
    > * Comes with its own belt clip & cover (This is also a MUST!!)
    >
    > NOT looking for a used phone. But am interested in reviews (pro and
    > con) on the latest phones so that I can make the right choice based on
    > other peoples' experience as well as my own needs.
    >
    > Look forward to everyone's replies
    >
    > Cheers for now
    >
    > Pat Cook
    > Denver, Colorado






  5. #5
    Pat Cook
    Guest

    Re: Best Of The Newest Phones

    Hi everyone:

    DecTxCowboy wrote:
    > Pat Cook wrote:
    >> * Has Nextel Walkie-Talkie support

    > Nextel "like"...Most new Sprint phones have it.
    > Or true interoperbility with Nextel...Not available yet.


    Yes I meant Nextel like.

    >> * PCS Vision

    > The rules out a true Nextel phone.


    I doubt they even sell phones under the Nextel name now anyway, so I
    don't think there is such a thing anymore unless you bought it before
    the merger.

    >> * Large Buttons (This is also MUST!!)

    > Large buttons or easy to use buttons? I've seen some Nokia and Motorola
    > phones with some pretty big (and not of uniform size) buttons that are
    > terrible to use.


    Naah. Just buttons that don't require a pointing device to use. My
    N400 has an OK button with four arrows around it. I can't use that
    button to surf the net with my phone (which can be done WITHOUT a laptop
    I might add) with my big fingers. I need a phone that has like four
    SEPERATE buttons for the arrows and another just for the OK feature (I
    know there are a few Sprint phones with this or something similar out
    there). They don't have to not be of uniform size.

    >> * Wireless Internet capability (i.e. Broadband)

    > I assume you mean teathered to a laptop.


    Nope. See above.

    > Most Sprint phone can be used as a modem (Yeah, I know what the TOS
    > says), but figure on half the advertised 115K (?) advertised speed.
    > True broadband like as in 11 MBps or 54 MBps Wifi? Maybe next year.


    I don't even get 11 Mbps. here at home, so I'm not worried (Comcast caps
    me at 4 Mbps. with my residential account).

    >> * Comes with its own belt clip & cover (This is also a MUST!!)

    > You can always go after-market.


    Why do that when I can just look under ACCESSORIES when I make my purchase?

    I'm afraid I'm a little stumped by your response Cowboy. Could you
    please clarify?

    Cheers for now

    Pat Cook
    Denver, Colorado



  6. #6
    DecTxCowboy
    Guest

    Re: Best Of The Newest Phones

    Pat Cook wrote:
    > Why do that when I can just look under ACCESSORIES when I make my purchase?
    >
    > I'm afraid I'm a little stumped by your response Cowboy. Could you
    > please clarify?


    Sorry, I was assuming that whatever product you were looking at simply
    didn't have the accessories you needed.

    Sometimes after-market vendors may have something more suitable, i.e. a
    belt clip that your belt slides though instead of clipping on to you
    belt (a necessity if you work around cattle and horses) and with a
    Velcro cover.

    Or a yellow one if you wear a yellow suit like the Symantec anti-virus
    guys wear in the commercials - ok, that's stretching common sense.



  7. #7
    DecTxCowboy
    Guest

    Re: Best Of The Newest Phones

    Good deal - you clarified what you are looking for...

    >> Pat Cook wrote:
    >>
    >>> * Has Nextel Walkie-Talkie support


    Any Sprint Ready-link phone will talk to another Ready-Link phone. you
    covered there.

    >>> * PCS Vision


    That's easy to find in the phone description. No problem there.

    >>> * Large Buttons (This is also MUST!!)


    > Naah. Just buttons that don't require a pointing device to use. My
    > N400 has an OK button with four arrows around it. I can't use that
    > button to surf the net with my phone (which can be done WITHOUT a laptop
    > I might add) with my big fingers. I need a phone that has like four
    > SEPERATE buttons for the arrows and another just for the OK feature.


    That's something you'll just have to find out with real hands on
    experience at the store. Surfing the 'net to send email is a chore using
    the telephone key format to compose text, my Blackberry's QWERTY
    keyboard is great (even with gloves on). Surfing the 'net in general
    from a handset is usually a disappointment - the screen is too small and
    most sites simply don't render well enough to be useful. Of course the
    sites that are optimized for handset viewing are all right.

    >>> * Wireless Internet capability (i.e. Broadband)


    Sorry...broadband to me means 20 MBps download speeds (Yes, my DSL does
    that). Not counting 3G, you can expect 50 KBps to 115 KBps connection
    speeds from you handset (when tethered to a laptop), but it will seem
    like a dial up connection using the handset screen due to the slowness
    of the phone's browser.

    As for accessories, I covered that in a previous post a little bit ago.



  8. #8
    Tinman
    Guest

    Re: Best Of The Newest Phones

    DecTxCowboy wrote:
    >>> Pat Cook wrote:
    >>>> * Wireless Internet capability (i.e. Broadband)

    >
    > Sorry...broadband to me means 20 MBps download speeds (Yes, my DSL
    > does that).


    That's a rather unique definition of "broadband."

    What is your uplink speed? (That's rhetorical, as I already know it
    ain't 20 Mbps.) Assuming it's allowed by your ISP's TOS, you wouldn't
    even be able to set up a Web/FTP server that meets your own definition
    of "broadband," right?


    > Not counting 3G, you can expect 50 KBps to 115 KBps
    > connection speeds from you handset (when tethered to a laptop), but
    > it will seem like a dial up connection using the handset screen due
    > to the slowness of the phone's browser.
    >


    Yes, many handset browsers aren't speed-demons. But they have been
    getting better, at least in my experience (and a 20 Mbps connection is
    pointless).

    BTW, "50 KBps" means 50 kilobytes-per-second. Capitalizing the "B" means
    byte, not bit. I believe you meant 50 to 115 Kbps (if not, then you
    meant 20 megabytes-per-second above, which is an even more absurd
    definition of broadband).


    --
    Mike





  9. #9
    DecTxCowboy
    Guest

    Re: Best Of The Newest Phones

    Paul Miner wrote:
    > Also, you said not counting 3G but then went on to list
    > the typical speeds for a 3G connection....did you mean to say not
    > counting EVDO?


    Just commenting on 2.5G (or whatever Sprints calls it). 3G and EVDO not
    deployed aruond here yet, so not commenting on that.



  10. #10
    DecTxCowboy
    Guest

    20 Meg DSl Clarification

    DecTxCowboy wrote:
    > Sorry...broadband to me means 20 MBps download speeds (Yes, my DSL does
    > that).


    I'll make it simpler and just say "Meg"

    T1 is 1.5 Meg up and down (symmetrical).
    Typical DSL is 1.5 Meg down and .4 Meg up (asymmetrical).

    Ok, are we on the same page now?
    --------------------------------------------

    I originally had Sprint's 3 Meg DSL and upgraded to 5 Meg a few months
    ago. I'm only 1,000 feet from the C.O.

    I now have four of the 5 Meg DSL lines bonded together for 20 Meg down
    and 2.4 Meg up.

    Test results from ONE of the DSL lines a few minutes ago - - -

    Testing complete!
    Your results are:

    - Download speed: 5.049 Mbits/sec ( 95 times faster than a 56k modem )
    - Upload speed: 612.000 Kbits/sec ( 18 times faster than a 56k modem )

    Total monthly cost is under $200 a month. Commercial TOS allows full
    FTP and HTTP servers and resell of bandwidth.

    Now *THAT* is a BROADBAND connection by anyone's definition.



  11. #11
    Thurman
    Guest

    Re: Best Of The Newest Phones


    "DecTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:yoZ%[email protected]
    > Paul Miner wrote:
    >> Also, you said not counting 3G but then went on to list
    >> the typical speeds for a 3G connection....did you mean to say not
    >> counting EVDO?

    >
    > Just commenting on 2.5G (or whatever Sprints calls it). 3G and EVDO not
    > deployed aruond here yet, so not commenting on that.


    The Sprint coverage map shows what looks like DFW airport with EVDO.

    In the meantime, I've used the Verizon EVDO in several areas of DFW; it's
    nice, but Verizon data doesn't recognize OK, AR and half of NM. At $60/mon,
    I would consider dropping Charter Cable modem as an ISP, maybe in combo with
    DirectTV for video.

    I just settled in with Vonage for long distance and international calling.
    That's working better than expected.

    Friends with Verizon fiber to the house are rethinking the entire packages
    of communications.





  12. #12
    Brad Houser
    Guest

    Re: 20 Meg DSl Clarification

    On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:45:06 GMT, DecTxCowboy wrote:

    > DecTxCowboy wrote:
    >> Sorry...broadband to me means 20 MBps download speeds (Yes, my DSL does
    >> that).

    >
    > I'll make it simpler and just say "Meg"
    >
    > T1 is 1.5 Meg up and down (symmetrical).
    > Typical DSL is 1.5 Meg down and .4 Meg up (asymmetrical).
    >
    > Ok, are we on the same page now?
    > --------------------------------------------
    >
    > I originally had Sprint's 3 Meg DSL and upgraded to 5 Meg a few months
    > ago. I'm only 1,000 feet from the C.O.
    >
    > I now have four of the 5 Meg DSL lines bonded together for 20 Meg down
    > and 2.4 Meg up.
    >
    > Test results from ONE of the DSL lines a few minutes ago - - -
    >
    > Testing complete!
    > Your results are:
    >
    > - Download speed: 5.049 Mbits/sec ( 95 times faster than a 56k modem )
    > - Upload speed: 612.000 Kbits/sec ( 18 times faster than a 56k modem )
    >
    > Total monthly cost is under $200 a month. Commercial TOS allows full
    > FTP and HTTP servers and resell of bandwidth.
    >
    > Now *THAT* is a BROADBAND connection by anyone's definition.


    Are you sure the 4 lines are bonded? It looks like you tested the bandwidth
    of one line based on the results.

    Brad H



  13. #13
    DecTxCowboy
    Guest

    Re: 20 Meg DSl Clarification

    >>DecTxCowboy wrote:
    >>Test results from ONE of the DSL lines a few minutes ago - - -


    Brad Houser wrote:
    > Are you sure the 4 lines are bonded? It looks like you tested the bandwidth
    > of one line based on the results.
    >
    > Brad H




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