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  1. #1
    Bob Smith
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    In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet I
    must say , I noticed that SPCS has also put up new coverage maps when
    checking out coverage in your area, with a new color scheme showing the
    Power Vision coverage areas.

    Bob





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  2. #2

    Re: New Coverage Maps

    The map for the Los Angeles area is terrible. It's so small you can't
    even see much. The LA map should be broken down into segments or
    something because it's too large of an area to show it the way they do
    now.




  3. #3
    Big Mike
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    Re: New Coverage Maps

    On 2005-10-31 11:19:58 -0500, "Bob Smith"
    <[email protected]> said:

    > In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet
    > I must say , I noticed that SPCS has also put up new coverage maps
    > when checking out coverage in your area, with a new color scheme
    > showing the Power Vision coverage areas.
    >
    > Bob


    Just got my MM9000. Great phone, great sound. Plays higher bit rate MP4
    ringtones well, but def. get the 1Gb miniSD card for it. Camera is
    better than my 8200 was and, even though EVDO isn't rolled out in my
    area yet, the download speed is rockin'. I read in PhoneScoop that the
    software updates itself and has already posted a version upgrade!

    Lovin' it. Sprint store didn't have the s/w yet to move my phone book!
    Agh! Hoping for BitPim update (v8 JUST came out so I'm not assuming any
    support anytime soon).

    PowerVision works well so far, but you have to look around when it is
    running. Lots of places to see some content for free on TV, but lots of
    places you think you may have to pay. Navigation is clever, but to
    their advantage, of course.

    m




  4. #4
    Joseph Huber
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    Re: New Coverage Maps

    On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:19:58 GMT, "Bob Smith" wrote:

    >In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet I
    >must say ,


    Both of the Power Vision phones presently offered on the website are
    digital dual band, which means no analog roaming capabilities. Is
    this going to be the case for all Power Vision phones? If so, that
    would stink...

    Joe Huber
    [email protected]



  5. #5
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps

    I agree. For my areas, WI and IL, they do not zoom in far enough.


    [email protected] wrote:
    > The map for the Los Angeles area is terrible. It's so small you can't
    > even see much. The LA map should be broken down into segments or
    > something because it's too large of an area to show it the way they do
    > now.
    >




  6. #6
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps

    The main reason one would pay that much for a phone would be for the
    data. Data is not available in analog, and analog only areas are very
    few, very far between, and very small (in the number of people who
    would go there). I would think that the number of minutes that Sprint
    PCS bills from/to analog only areas is a very, very, small percentage.
    Probably less than one percent. The only reason the analog networks are
    still up is the federal mandate.


    Joseph Huber wrote:
    > On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:19:58 GMT, "Bob Smith" wrote:
    >
    >
    >>In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet I
    >>must say ,

    >
    >
    > Both of the Power Vision phones presently offered on the website are
    > digital dual band, which means no analog roaming capabilities. Is
    > this going to be the case for all Power Vision phones? If so, that
    > would stink...
    >
    > Joe Huber
    > [email protected]




  7. #7
    Central
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps

    On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 00:04:31 +0000, Jerome Zelinske wrote:

    > The main reason one would pay that much for a phone would be for the
    > data. Data is not available in analog, and analog only areas are very
    > few, very far between, and very small (in the number of people who
    > would go there). I would think that the number of minutes that Sprint
    > PCS bills from/to analog only areas is a very, very, small percentage.
    > Probably less than one percent. The only reason the analog networks are
    > still up is the federal mandate.
    >
    >
    > Joseph Huber wrote:


    I would think the reasoning is that sprintpcs phones tend to run 5-6yrs
    and since the analog bands are suppose to be phased out over the next few
    years it would be pointless expense. There are a select few who want this
    feature and sprintpcs will have something for them just not in all their
    flagship products.



  8. #8
    Joseph Huber
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps

    On 01 Nov 2005 20:47:20 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    >There is a lot of analog usage still from the Mississippi river on west.
    >Digital does not even come close to analog coverage. I have been to
    >plenty of camp grounds and resorts in Minnesota alone that has analog
    >coverage only ... even in areas that show Red on the Sprint PCS map
    >(including Digital Roam).


    Exactly correct!! Most of the roaming I do is still on analog, and
    even in areas where there are other digital providers, Sprint still
    roams on analog. Here in the DFW metroplex, which is supposed to be
    fully covered by Sprint, I catch my phone roaming on analog when
    driving.

    CDMA could really use somthing like a SIM card so users could switch
    between phones. Use the EV-DO phone for normal use, and keep an old
    tri-mode phone handy for areas where analog roaming is required.

    Joe Huber
    [email protected]



  9. #9
    Donkey Agony
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps

    Big Mike wrote:
    > Just got my MM9000. Great phone, great sound. Plays higher bit rate
    > MP4 ringtones well, but def. get the 1Gb miniSD card for it. Camera is
    > better than my 8200 was and, even though EVDO isn't rolled out in my
    > area yet, the download speed is rockin'. I read in PhoneScoop that the
    > software updates itself and has already posted a version upgrade!


    I currently have the Sanyo 5500, and when on the (rare these days) trip,
    "casual laptop" (tethered) use works fine. I read that Sanyo had
    disabled this in their 8300. Is it now reenabled in the MM9000?

    --
    da
    ~~





  10. #10
    scannell
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps

    Bob,

    Is Power Vision different from the old Vision or is it just a souped up
    marketing term.

    s. cannell
    cols. oh


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In checking out the Sanyo EV-DO MM9000 phone, which looks pretty sweet I
    > must say , I noticed that SPCS has also put up new coverage maps when
    > checking out coverage in your area, with a new color scheme showing the
    > Power Vision coverage areas.
    >
    > Bob
    >






  11. #11
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps


    "scannell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:0[email protected]
    > Bob,
    >
    > Is Power Vision different from the old Vision or is it just a souped up
    > marketing term.
    >
    > s. cannell
    > cols. oh


    Like night & day S. I haven't used it (still using a Sanyo 5300), but Power
    Vision is EV-DO, which increases the data speeds from 50-60Kbps (burst
    speeds up to 144Kbps) on average to 400-600Kbps (burst speed up to 2.4Mbps)

    Bob





  12. #12
    Donkey Agony
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps

    Paul Miner wrote:
    >> Like night & day S. I haven't used it (still using a Sanyo 5300),
    >> but Power Vision is EV-DO, which increases the data speeds from
    >> 50-60Kbps (burst speeds up to 144Kbps) on average to 400-600Kbps
    >> (burst speed up to 2.4Mbps)


    > I've been using it occasionally since December 2004 and agree with
    > Bob. Under the right conditions, it's like night and day. As with
    > almost anything, there are caveats, of course.


    > Before you buy an EV-DO data device and upgrade your data plan, know
    > what you're getting into.


    Could you elaborate Paul (or provide a link or two)? For someone who
    uses regular Vision, what are you "getting into" that's different
    (besides the speed, of course) with Power Vision?

    --
    da
    ~~





  13. #13
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps


    "Paul Miner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    <snipped>

    > Hope that helps. I know it sounded gloomy, but the bigger picture
    > isn't gloomy at all. Like I said earlier, I've been using EV-DO since
    > December of last year and when it's working correctly, it's pretty
    > darn amazing. If you live or work in a coverage area and are serious
    > about wireless data, you'll want it.
    >
    > --
    > Paul Miner


    Yo Paul, so tell us how it is, when you are in a PV coverage area ... What
    are you using it for?

    Bob





  14. #14
    Donkey Agony
    Guest

    Re: New Coverage Maps

    Paul Miner wrote:
    > The "know what you're getting into" comment comes as a result of a
    > conversation I had with someone who *should* know what's going on, but
    > isn't a decision maker, so take it with a grain of salt. She says that
    > refunds will not be readily provided to people who blindly purchase
    > EV-DO devices and/or upgrade their data plans to Power Vision and then
    > subsequently discover that Power Vision isn't available in their area.
    > Instead, she says, Sprint will try to educate people so as to avoid
    > the incorrect purchase in the first place.
    >
    > This all comes about and only becomes an issue because EV-DO is not
    > planned to be a complete overlay to 1xRTT. It's currently being rolled
    > out to cover selected (and large) US airports, followed by selected
    > metro business districts, and finally selected metro residential
    > areas. When EV-DO rollout is complete, there will be substantial areas
    > where EV-DO (and therefore the benefits of Power Vision) will not be
    > available. Hopefully, that explains my earlier comment.
    >
    > The other thing worth mentioning is that EV-DO data rates are subject
    > to fluctuation as 'channels' are borrowed to support voice traffic,
    > not to mention data rates that naturally deteriorate at the edges of
    > EV-DO coverage areas, just before the mobile device auto-switches over
    > to 1xRTT. Before the auto-switch, I'm told it's possible to see a data
    > rate that's actually worse than 1xRTT, and that isn't something that
    > anyone wants to see or talk about, obviously.
    >
    > Hope that helps.


    It does. Thank you.

    --
    da
    ~~





  15. #15

    Re: New Coverage Maps


    Paul Miner wrote:
    > >> Before you buy an EV-DO data device and upgrade your data plan, know
    > >> what you're getting into.

    > >

    >
    > This all comes about and only becomes an issue because EV-DO is not
    > planned to be a complete overlay to 1xRTT. It's currently being rolled
    > out to cover selected (and large) US airports, followed by selected
    > metro business districts, and finally selected metro residential
    > areas. When EV-DO rollout is complete, there will be substantial areas
    > where EV-DO (and therefore the benefits of Power Vision) will not be
    > available. Hopefully, that explains my earlier comment.


    This should be a pleasant "surprise" to some car passenger using a
    laptop
    passing thru different coverage (or not) areas.

    JG




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