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- 06-06-2006, 07:43 AM #1Guest
I'm in market for new cell phone..... a smart phone I'm
sure
Is it possible to get XM radio thru it?
And listen to it using a blue tooth headset while phone
slays in car next to me?
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- 06-06-2006, 08:27 AM #2AZ NomadGuest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:43:29 -0500, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm in market for new cell phone..... a smart phone I'm
>sure
>Is it possible to get XM radio thru it?
>And listen to it using a blue tooth headset while phone
>slays in car next to me?
What you need is a combination cellphone xm radio. Here's how to get one:
go to an electronics store. Buy a portable XM radio.
Then duct tape it to your phone.
- 06-06-2006, 08:58 AM #3Guest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
AZ Nomad <[email protected]> wrote:
>What you need is a combination cellphone xm radio. Here's how to get one:
>go to an electronics store. Buy a portable XM radio.
>Then duct tape it to your phone.
So getting sat radio via the cell phone is not optimal
in your opinion?
- 06-06-2006, 11:43 AM #4Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
[email protected] wrote:
> AZ Nomad <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What you need is a combination cellphone xm radio. Here's how to get one:
>> go to an electronics store. Buy a portable XM radio.
>> Then duct tape it to your phone.
>
> So getting sat radio via the cell phone is not optimal
> in your opinion?
It's not just opinion. XM is not being offered by any wireless carrier
at the moment. Sprint is currently offering a limited selection of
Sirius content.
Even so, I still don't get why people think that turning their cell
phone into an iPod is such a great idea, or a mini satellite radio
receiver for that matter. I've tried the converged-device thing
multiple times already, and I've always ended up coming away from it
with the same conclusion: you can kludge two devices together into one,
and that converged device will do all those things VERY poorly. The
device typically also ends up being rather bulky, awkard, and does it's
mst important job (being a phone) very awkwardly. Or, you can get the
discreet devices and have each device do what they do exceptionally well.
The one thing a cell phone can do really well is something that the
wireless carriers have up until recently been reluctant to allow it to
do: interface with other devices and act as a modem. Thankfully Sprint
has finally figured this out.
If you want XM radio on the go, get a Pioneer Inno. It's portable, very
compact, and aside from being able to dock to your car and/or home
stereo, it gives you the added option to record content and play it back
later, just like a Tivo. I bought one, and love it.
If the sticker price ($399) is a little high for you, there are much
cheaper XM portables out there that do similar things and are simply
less-flashy. Or you could go on eBay and buy a used MyFi on the cheap.
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- 06-06-2006, 11:46 AM #5TinmanGuest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
[email protected] wrote:
> I'm in market for new cell phone..... a smart phone I'm
> sure
>
> Is it possible to get XM radio thru it?
>
> And listen to it using a blue tooth headset while phone
> slays in car next to me?
Not sure about XM channels (doubt it), but I stream music/talk streams
to my Treo 650 all of the time (Pocket Tunes Deluxe). The Treo 700p, if
in an EV-DO area, can stream at higher bitrates.
As far as a stereo Bluetooth headset is concerned, none of the Sprint
Treos support the profile needed for it out-of-box (the 700p has BT 1.2,
but no A2DP profile). That said, both the 650 and 700p can somewhat
support it via a third-party app.
Keep in mind that A2DP doesn't just reroute sound: it actually
compresses it in order to get around BT's limited bandwidth. This
process, on the PDA phone itself, can be CPU intensive--especially if
the app creating the sound is already CPU intensive. The headset itself
has a CPU, and decodes the compressed stream before playing it.
Here is an example of a BT stereo headset solution for the Treo
650/700p:
http://www.softick.com/bluetooth-audio/
(Software to handle A2DP)
http://mytreo.net/store/product.php?xProd=738
(BT Headset compatible with the Softick software.)
The 700w, not (yet?) available from Sprint, been "hacked" to be able to
utilize A2DP, but I'm not sure it works all that well (yet?). The
PPC-6700 has been hacked too, which seems to work better than the 700w.
These hacks do not require third-party software.
Alternately, there are BT audio dongles that plug into any stereo
headset jack. The dongle/adapter handles the encoding of sound as well
as the BT radio transmission, which makes it less of a burden on the PDA
phone's CPU and battery. Whether or not carrying around a dongle is
better than just carrying a wired headset is a personal choice:
"http://mytreo.net/archives/2006/04/stereo-bluetooth-headset-comparison-review-for-treo-650.php"
Finally, if you don't need a PDA phone Sprint's Fusic (LG LX550) can
handle music, and includes BT (*with* the A2DP profile enabled right out
of the box).
--
Mike
- 06-06-2006, 11:53 AM #6Guest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:
>If you want XM radio on the go, get a Pioneer Inno. It's portable, very
>compact, and aside from being able to dock to your car and/or home
>stereo, it gives you the added option to record content and play it back
>later, just like a Tivo. I bought one, and love it.
Well that would be the device if I do go XM radio
But I'm getting ready to buy a new smart phone as
well... Treo 700w
You still feel the 700w wont make a good device for sat
radio?
- 06-06-2006, 11:54 AM #7Guest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Not sure about XM channels (doubt it), but I stream music/talk streams
>to my Treo 650 all of the time (Pocket Tunes Deluxe). The Treo 700p, if
>in an EV-DO area, can stream at higher bitrates.
So you stream them from the Net to your Treo and
listen?
- 06-06-2006, 11:56 AM #8Guest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>As far as a stereo Bluetooth headset is concerned, none of the Sprint
>Treos support the profile needed for it out-of-box (the 700p has BT 1.2,
>but no A2DP profile). That said, both the 650 and 700p can somewhat
>support it via a third-party app.
So BT in the Treos is a kludge?
If yes.... what abt the windows mobile version of smart
phones such as PPC-6700?
is that phone a better option for BT use?
- 06-06-2006, 12:01 PM #9TinmanGuest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
Isaiah Beard wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> AZ Nomad <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> What you need is a combination cellphone xm radio. Here's how to
>>> get one: go to an electronics store. Buy a portable XM radio.
>>> Then duct tape it to your phone.
>>
>> So getting sat radio via the cell phone is not optimal
>> in your opinion?
>
> It's not just opinion. XM is not being offered by any wireless
> carrier at the moment. Sprint is currently offering a limited
> selection of
> Sirius content.
>
> Even so, I still don't get why people think that turning their cell
> phone into an iPod is such a great idea, or a mini satellite radio
> receiver for that matter.
You don't have to "get it." The convergent design works just fine for
the hundreds of thousands--if not millions by now--of Treo owners, not
to mention the myriad of other smart/PDA phone owners.
And it's not about turning a cellphone into an iPod. It's about carrying
one device that can do MANY different things, not just music. Some
people never use their PDA phone for music. Others do, like myself. And
I have no problem with using it as such (and much, much, more).
And, for the record, I have no problem using my Treo as a modem. It does
the job just as well as my cellphones did. It's also fine as a phone.
OTOH, none of my cellphones came close to the PDA functionality I have
with my Treo (that's not even taking multimedia into account).
Finally, I do stream audio content with my Treo. It might not be sat
radio, but I have literally hundreds of streams to choose from--and I
don't have to pay an additional monthly bill to receive them (nor do I
need a clear view of the sky). That doesn't mean I've turned my Treo
into a "mini satellite radio receiver." It just means I've chosen to use
it for this particular functionality, nothing more.
--
Mike
- 06-06-2006, 12:06 PM #10TinmanGuest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
[email protected] wrote:
> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Not sure about XM channels (doubt it), but I stream music/talk
>> streams to my Treo 650 all of the time (Pocket Tunes Deluxe). The
>> Treo 700p, if in an EV-DO area, can stream at higher bitrates.
>
> So you stream them from the Net to your Treo and
> listen?
Yes, I most certainly do; via Pocket Tunes Deluxe. And this is with a
Treo 650, which is of course limited to CDMA 1x speeds. While not hi-fi,
the streams sound fine to me. If I had a 700p (still on the fence about
it), and in an EV-DO coverage area, I would have an even larger stream
selection to choose from, as I would be able to select higher bitrate
feeds.
--
Mike
- 06-06-2006, 12:19 PM #11TinmanGuest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
[email protected] wrote:
> "Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> As far as a stereo Bluetooth headset is concerned, none of the Sprint
>> Treos support the profile needed for it out-of-box (the 700p has BT
>> 1.2, but no A2DP profile). That said, both the 650 and 700p can
>> somewhat support it via a third-party app.
>
> So BT in the Treos is a kludge?
I would say that applies more to the 650 than the 700p. For instance,
the 700p I tested had far better range than my 650 does. But neither
support A2DP, at least not without a third-party app.
>
> If yes.... what abt the windows mobile version of smart
> phones such as PPC-6700?
The 6700 can be hacked to support A2DP. So can the Treo 700w, but I've
read that music stutters on that device when using it (might have gotten
better by now). Note that I'm referring to 6700s and 700ws that have had
the AKU 2.0 Windows Mobile update applied. That update includes A2DP,
but it was disabled on the 6700/700w. The hack I'm referring to merely
enables it. Oddly enough, the beta version of AKU 2.0 for the 6700 did
have A2DP enabled--but it was yanked in the final release.
It's also possible that a future update will officially enable A2DP, but
that's certainly not guaranteed.
--
Mike
- 06-06-2006, 01:19 PM #12Guest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Finally, I do stream audio content with my Treo. It might not be sat
>radio, but I have literally hundreds of streams to choose from--and I
>don't have to pay an additional monthly bill to receive them (nor do I
>need a clear view of the sky). That doesn't mean I've turned my Treo
>into a "mini satellite radio receiver." It just means I've chosen to use
>it for this particular functionality, nothing more.
Actually you've convinced me that Treo streaming music
form the Net might be BETTER than a portable XM radio!
- 06-06-2006, 01:20 PM #13Guest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yes, I most certainly do; via Pocket Tunes Deluxe. And this is with a
>Treo 650, which is of course limited to CDMA 1x speeds. While not hi-fi,
>the streams sound fine to me. If I had a 700p (still on the fence about
>it), and in an EV-DO coverage area, I would have an even larger stream
>selection to choose from, as I would be able to select higher bitrate
>feeds.
why are you on fence abt 700p?
Think you might go 700w?
Going from palm to windows maybe?
- 06-06-2006, 01:21 PM #14Guest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yes, I most certainly do; via Pocket Tunes Deluxe. And this is with a
>Treo 650, which is of course limited to CDMA 1x speeds. While not hi-fi,
>the streams sound fine to me. If I had a 700p (still on the fence about
>it), and in an EV-DO coverage area, I would have an even larger stream
>selection to choose from, as I would be able to select higher bitrate
>feeds.
do you listen to streaming radio thru built in Treo
speaker?
Or have separate headset?
- 06-06-2006, 01:29 PM #15Guest
Re: Can I get XM radio via my cell phone?
"Tinman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>It's also possible that a future update will officially enable A2DP, but
>that's certainly not guaranteed.
Ok much thanks Mike
I'm gonna buy a smart phone very soon and you've been a
wealth of info
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