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In article <[email protected]>, SMS wrote:
> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>
>> and overpriced real estate, both of which California bosts an abundance.
>
> It's coming down in price by the week. In the city where I live, you can
> now buy a two bedroom condo for under $700,000. A year ago, these condos
> would have sold for $900,000.

Heh. In this part of California, you have to actually make an effort to
find anything over $500K or $600K.

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"Steven J. Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>, SMS wrote:
>> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>>
>>> and overpriced real estate, both of which California bosts an
>>> abundance.
>>
>> It's coming down in price by the week. In the city where I live, you
>> can now buy a two bedroom condo for under $700,000. A year ago, these
>> condos would have sold for $900,000.
>
> Heh. In this part of California, you have to actually make an effort
> to find anything over $500K or $600K.
>
Here on the west side. 500k will buy you a nice garage. Nothing under 900k.

SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>
>> and overpriced real estate, both of which California bosts an abundance.
>
> It's coming down in price by the week. In the city where I live, you can
> now buy a two bedroom condo for under $700,000. A year ago, these condos
> would have sold for $900,000.

I believe I heard recently that San Diego and nearby areas have only show a
15% max loss in value since the peak last winter. Not too bad for a bubble
burst. That is of course and average. I have seen the prices on homes out
there, and compared to most other locations in the US (New York and surrounds
is a notable exception), the prices in San Diego and San Francisco are simply
outrageous. Speculators and builders drove the price up and crowding out
there did the rest.

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John Richards <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Sky" <[email protected]> wrote in message news[email protected]...
>> Dont forget with an earthquake you can lose everything you own is seconds
>
> Which is why I have earthquake insurance.
> Note that annual hurricane, flood and tornado losses run much higher than
> earthquake losses, to say nothing of loss from lightning and snow and ice storms.
>

Tell me about it ... we had a near miss from a Tornado that took nearly a year
to get repaired (contractors are simply too busy in the Midwest these days).

Still, if another big quake hits San Fran or LA, Tornado dollars spent will
look like pocket change.

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John Richards <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Right. And if the bad press keeps people from moving here, so much
> the better for those of us already here.
>
> John Richards (basking in the Napa Valley sunshine)
>

Yes, I would love to live in Napa Valley ... at least, for the weather and the
wine.

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Steven J. Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>
>> My comments on selfish aren't derived from the lack of courteous driving
>> habits in California.
>
> That's fine. I just was extrapolating because that's where it sounded like
> you got your data. And I'm sorry you have had bad experiences here. SoCal,
> in particular, isn't a bad place to live.
>

I had a good experience there ... it just wasn't with the people in general
(of course, there are a few good apples ;-)

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Notan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> THE HUMIDITY!!!
>

I think I would accept the humidity in the summer over the artic cold in a
Minnesota winter ;-) Actually, I don't mind the cold winter ... I mind how
LONG the winter is ... no leaves from mid-October to mid-April, just lots of
brown.

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Steven J. Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I was referring to Thomas's experiences with people being rude in general,
> not specifically while driving.
>

Rude is an overstatement, as I really mean they seem very selfish ... or all
about "self".

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In article <[email protected]>, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

> I believe I heard recently that San Diego and nearby areas have only show a
> 15% max loss in value since the peak last winter.

I think the current Los Angeles bubble-burst is much bigger. Areas of SoCal
that were cheaper to begin with (yes, San Diego; also my neck of the woods)
seem to be leveling off more than dropping.

**SJS, who just closed on his beautiful new house on Tuesday!

> there, and compared to most other locations in the US (New York and surrounds
> is a notable exception), the prices in San Diego and San Francisco are simply
> outrageous.

Hell, yeah.

> Speculators and builders drove the price up and crowding out
> there did the rest.

Absolutely.


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Have a high regard for the people who to Disneyland and think they know
all about California just as the same with Chicago-Illinois and NYC- NY
state.

jim-g <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have a high regard for the people who to Disneyland and think they know
> all about California just as the same with Chicago-Illinois and NYC- NY
> state.

To whom are you referring? I personally spent almost two months working out
there [SF Bay and Sacramento] from February to April 2003.

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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:

>jim-g <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Have a high regard for the people who to Disneyland and think they know
>> all about California just as the same with Chicago-Illinois and NYC- NY
>> state.
>
>To whom are you referring? I personally spent almost two months working out
>there [SF Bay and Sacramento] from February to April 2003.

Thomas,

I think he is just laying out a common theme that is used
world-wide: the version I've heard the most is that just because
you've visited Paris doesn't necessarily mean you know anything about
the rest of France. Same goes for those that spend a week at
Disneyland and think they know all there is to know about California.

California is a very diverse place - everything from the queer bars
in SF to deserts to snow up over your eyeballs to trees so tall you
have to lay on the ground to be able to see the top of them.

In the 20 years I've lived out here it has become very obvious to me
that there is NO SUCH THING as the "typical Californian" (and I had a
lot of preconceived notions of CA before I moved out here, most of
which where dead wrong).

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

William H. Bowen <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>jim-g <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Have a high regard for the people who to Disneyland and think they
>>> know all about California just as the same with Chicago-Illinois and
>>> NYC- NY state.
>>
>>To whom are you referring? I personally spent almost two months
>>working out there [SF Bay and Sacramento] from February to April 2003.
>
> Thomas,
>
> I think he is just laying out a common theme that is used
> world-wide: the version I've heard the most is that just because
> you've visited Paris doesn't necessarily mean you know anything about
> the rest of France. Same goes for those that spend a week at
> Disneyland and think they know all there is to know about California.
>
> California is a very diverse place - everything from the queer bars
> in SF to deserts to snow up over your eyeballs to trees so tall you
> have to lay on the ground to be able to see the top of them.
>
> In the 20 years I've lived out here it has become very obvious to me
> that there is NO SUCH THING as the "typical Californian" (and I had a
> lot of preconceived notions of CA before I moved out here, most of
> which where dead wrong).
>
> Regards,
> Bill Bowen
> Sacramento, CA
>

try living in Los Angeles

Steven J. Sobol wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, SMS wrote:
>> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>>
>>> and overpriced real estate, both of which California bosts an abundance.
>> It's coming down in price by the week. In the city where I live, you can
>> now buy a two bedroom condo for under $700,000. A year ago, these condos
>> would have sold for $900,000.
>
> Heh. In this part of California, you have to actually make an effort to
> find anything over $500K or $600K.

Yeah, that's where all the Bay Area people will move when they cash out,
if it's still possible to cash out ten years from now.

William H. Bowen wrote:
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:
Very Good Bill, you hit it right on the head. No other way to respond
to a msg that is designed to draw insults in return and that is not
intended here. I can leave that to those who live for confrontation.
Jim-G



>> jim-g <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Have a high regard for the people who to Disneyland and think they know
>>> all about California just as the same with Chicago-Illinois and NYC- NY
>>> state.
>> To whom are you referring? I personally spent almost two months working out
>> there [SF Bay and Sacramento] from February to April 2003.
>
> Thomas,
>
> I think he is just laying out a common theme that is used
> world-wide: the version I've heard the most is that just because
> you've visited Paris doesn't necessarily mean you know anything about
> the rest of France. Same goes for those that spend a week at
> Disneyland and think they know all there is to know about California.
>
> California is a very diverse place - everything from the queer bars
> in SF to deserts to snow up over your eyeballs to trees so tall you
> have to lay on the ground to be able to see the top of them.
>
> In the 20 years I've lived out here it has become very obvious to me
> that there is NO SUCH THING as the "typical Californian" (and I had a
> lot of preconceived notions of CA before I moved out here, most of
> which where dead wrong).
>
> Regards,
> Bill Bowen
> Sacramento, CA


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