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  1. #61
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: Sprint Class Action Suit

    William H. Bowen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > that there is NO SUCH THING as the "typical Californian" (and I had a
    > lot of preconceived notions of CA before I moved out here, most of
    > which where dead wrong).
    >


    I didn't say anything about a typical Californian. I simply said that I found
    a lot more selfish people out there [in SF Bay particularily].

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  2. #62
    Bill Marriott
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    Re: Sprint Class Action Suit

    "I didn't say there were typical Californians; I made my unfair
    generalization about Californians using *completely* different words."

    Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
    > William H. Bowen wrote:
    >> that there is NO SUCH THING as the "typical Californian" (and I had a
    >> lot of preconceived notions of CA before I moved out here, most of
    >> which where dead wrong).

    >
    > I didn't say anything about a typical Californian. I simply said that I
    > found
    > a lot more selfish people out there [in SF Bay particularily].






  3. #63
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: Sprint Class Action Suit

    Bill Marriott <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "I didn't say there were typical Californians; I made my unfair
    > generalization about Californians using *completely* different words."
    >


    I disagree. What I made was an observation. I encountered far more "selfish"
    people in California than I have elsewhere. The generalization is all your
    own inference.

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    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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  4. #64
    Bill Marriott
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    Re: Sprint Class Action Suit

    As is your perception they were "selfish"

    Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Bill Marriott <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> "I didn't say there were typical Californians; I made my unfair
    >> generalization about Californians using *completely* different words."
    >>

    >
    > I disagree. What I made was an observation. I encountered far more
    > "selfish"
    > people in California than I have elsewhere. The generalization is all
    > your
    > own inference.






  5. #65
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: Sprint Class Action Suit

    Bill Marriott <[email protected]> wrote:
    > As is your perception they were "selfish"
    >


    No, that is not a generization. I speak of individuals I found to be selfish.
    Again, it is an observation ... one which can be quantified.

    I have made my point loud and clear, so there does not appear to be further
    constructive discussion on this matter?

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  6. #66
    Bill Marriott
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    Re: Sprint Class Action Suit

    Tom,

    > I have made my point loud and clear, so there does not appear to be
    > further constructive discussion on this matter?


    Sure there is, if you can potentially see the links between experiences and
    beliefs, and how those links are not always valid.

    I said your perception they were selfish was an *inference.* This was just
    one step that led to your implication that people in the SF Bay area were
    "more selfish."

    Anais Nin famously said, "We see the world not as it is, but how we are."
    The people may not have actually been selfish, or acting selfishly only
    temporarily, or acting that way because of the immediate situation/context.
    They may or may not be more or less selfish than people in other parts of
    California, or other parts of the country, or humans in general. "Almost"
    two months is hardly enough time to really know. I spent five years there
    and don't think I could say one way or another.

    I do know that great cheese comes from happy cows, and happy cows come from
    California.





  7. #67
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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    Re: Sprint Class Action Suit

    Bill Marriott <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Tom,
    >
    >> I have made my point loud and clear, so there does not appear to be
    >> further constructive discussion on this matter?

    >
    > Sure there is, if you can potentially see the links between experiences and
    > beliefs, and how those links are not always valid.
    >
    > I said your perception they were selfish was an *inference.* This was just
    > one step that led to your implication that people in the SF Bay area were
    > "more selfish."


    Inference? No. Judgement, certainly. An inference should lead to the same
    conclusion for everybody.

    > I do know that great cheese comes from happy cows, and happy cows come from
    > California.
    >


    Judging from the Cheese I have eaten I think Wisconsin claims the happiest
    cows ;-)

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    Thomas T. Veldhouse
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