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  1. #1
    P.Schuman
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    My son is out looking at different cell plans so he can get a smartphone..
    However, I've warned him - for budgeting purposes - that the real monthly
    cost
    is not just the detailed voice and/or data plan,
    but it also includes the local TAXES.

    Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
    it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%

    So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost vs added taxes
    ?





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  2. #2
    Larry
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    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    "P.Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
    > it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%
    >
    > So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost vs

    added
    > taxes ?
    >
    >

    Alltel in South Carolina, here. The $39 plan is over $47 after
    the bureaucrats get their cuts. Every fiefdom wants some. It's
    obscene. There'll be more taxes, now with the additional $25/mo
    EVDO data added to that. $64/mo will total over $75.

    I justify it by not having an AT&T landline at home, which I
    consider obsolete. I'll never figure why someone with a
    SELLphone they're paying so much for has another drain on their
    funds with a useless landline with even MORE stupid addon
    charges, like "long distance", a throwback into the 1930's.

    People are stupid.

    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v



  3. #3
    Patrick C
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    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    We use prepaid, buy 1000 minutes at a time for $100 and only pay sales tax
    on that (less we find refill card on EBay). We live in Illinois and our
    local sales taxes are 7%. The minutes last a year then are rollable if you
    don't use them. Of course we don't use that many minutes to begin with and
    the prepaid phone selection isn't that great. We have 2 non camera phones
    and a Sidekick II I only use for 10 days every 3 months ($10 a crack) when
    we go on vacation so we don't have to lug the laptop around.

    "P.Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > My son is out looking at different cell plans so he can get a smartphone..
    > However, I've warned him - for budgeting purposes - that the real monthly
    > cost
    > is not just the detailed voice and/or data plan,
    > but it also includes the local TAXES.
    >
    > Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
    > it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%
    >
    > So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost vs added
    > taxes ?
    >





  4. #4
    P.Schuman
    Guest

    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    wonder which prepaid you are using ?
    We have our son on Virgin Mobile right now....
    but he's starting to eat up the minutes
    It seemed the best at 90 day interval for adding funds.

    "Patrick C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > We use prepaid, buy 1000 minutes at a time for $100 and only pay sales tax
    > on that (less we find refill card on EBay). We live in Illinois and our
    > local sales taxes are 7%. The minutes last a year then are rollable if you
    > don't use them. Of course we don't use that many minutes to begin with and
    > the prepaid phone selection isn't that great. We have 2 non camera phones
    > and a Sidekick II I only use for 10 days every 3 months ($10 a crack) when
    > we go on vacation so we don't have to lug the laptop around.
    >
    > "P.Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > My son is out looking at different cell plans so he can get a smartphone..
    > > However, I've warned him - for budgeting purposes - that the real monthly
    > > cost
    > > is not just the detailed voice and/or data plan,
    > > but it also includes the local TAXES.
    > >
    > > Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
    > > it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%
    > >
    > > So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost vs added
    > > taxes ?
    > >

    >






  5. #5
    Wooly
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    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    Larry wrote:

    > I justify it by not having an AT&T landline at home, which I
    > consider obsolete. I'll never figure why someone with a
    > SELLphone they're paying so much for has another drain on their
    > funds with a useless landline with even MORE stupid addon
    > charges, like "long distance", a throwback into the 1930's.


    Because it's a lot easier for a child to find the phone mom drills him
    to use in an emergency when the phone is *always* attached to the
    kitchen wall, and because the landline will *always* accurately report
    its number and location to the 911 center, unlike cellphones.



  6. #6
    Larry
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    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    -= Hawk =- <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:28:03 +0000, Larry <[email protected]>

    scribbled:
    >
    >>"P.Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >>news:[email protected]:
    >>
    >>> Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
    >>> it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%
    >>>
    >>> So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost

    vs
    >>added
    >>> taxes ?
    >>>
    >>>

    >>Alltel in South Carolina, here. The $39 plan is over $47 after
    >>the bureaucrats get their cuts. Every fiefdom wants some.

    It's
    >>obscene. There'll be more taxes, now with the additional

    $25/mo
    >>EVDO data added to that. $64/mo will total over $75.
    >>
    >>I justify it by not having an AT&T landline at home, which I
    >>consider obsolete. I'll never figure why someone with a
    >>SELLphone they're paying so much for has another drain on their
    >>funds with a useless landline with even MORE stupid addon
    >>charges, like "long distance", a throwback into the 1930's.
    >>
    >>People are stupid.

    >
    > 2004, hurricane Frances (or Jeanne, your choice) makes

    landfall a few
    > miles south of here. My neighbors couldn't get a cell phone

    call out for
    > four days or more. Towers down, overloaded circuits, joy! On

    the other
    > hand my 'obsolete', 'useless landline' a 'throwback to the

    1930's'
    > survived both hurricane strikes and we were able to make calls.

    Hell, I
    > called my insurance company and made our initial insurance

    claim during
    > the height of the storm. You go on staring dumbly at "No

    Signal" I'll be
    > talking to my family around the country... Anyone you want me

    to call
    > for you, Tech-boi?
    >
    >


    In 1989, around midnight, I stood in the street outside a
    friend's wrecked home we were staying at, staring up at the stars
    through the center of the eye, talking on AMPS with my bagphone
    to my friend's family in Ohio to tell them we were ok, but the
    house had moved 3" away from the garage, cracking the wall. We'd
    been huddled in the bathroom for hours wondering if it would ever
    be over. Whole pine trees were flying horizontally down the
    street, lit up by the falling electrical power system it took
    months to rebuild.

    I guess I was lucky the old bagphone still worked. Of course,
    that was on 800 Mhz AMPS with real transmitters and a better
    system than PCS.

    My family is all dead. Do you think your landline can call them?

    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v



  7. #7
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    Wooly <[email protected]> wrote in news:47554baa$0$2365
    [email protected]:

    > Larry wrote:
    >
    >> I justify it by not having an AT&T landline at home, which I
    >> consider obsolete. I'll never figure why someone with a
    >> SELLphone they're paying so much for has another drain on

    their
    >> funds with a useless landline with even MORE stupid addon
    >> charges, like "long distance", a throwback into the 1930's.

    >
    > Because it's a lot easier for a child to find the phone mom

    drills him
    > to use in an emergency when the phone is *always* attached to

    the
    > kitchen wall, and because the landline will *always* accurately

    report
    > its number and location to the 911 center, unlike cellphones.
    >


    Hmm....If a child is that young, shouldn't it be with its parents
    or a trusted adult? If a child is 12, these days, the child has
    his/her own phone and knows much more about its use (and hacking)
    than all the adults in the house, combined.

    As to 911, the SELLphone in the child's pocket is accessible,
    from anywhere the child is located.....not just if the child is
    trapped against the kitchen wall where the wall phone is located.
    The kitchen phone won't help the child on her way home from
    school or at the store or at the neighbor's house locked up by
    the pedophile daddy of her friend, will it?

    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v



  8. #8
    Bill Kearney
    Guest

    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?


    > 2004, hurricane Frances (or Jeanne, your choice) makes landfall a few
    > miles south of here. My neighbors couldn't get a cell phone call out for
    > four days or more. Towers down, overloaded circuits, joy! On the other
    > hand my 'obsolete', 'useless landline' a 'throwback to the 1930's'
    > survived both hurricane strikes and we were able to make calls. Hell, I
    > called my insurance company and made our initial insurance claim during
    > the height of the storm. You go on staring dumbly at "No Signal" I'll be
    > talking to my family around the country... Anyone you want me to call
    > for you, Tech-boi?


    Tech-boi? What're you, a child?

    Land lines are great, unless said hurricane topples the house, the lines or
    the central office.




  9. #9
    Patrick C
    Guest

    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    T-Mobile

    "P.Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > wonder which prepaid you are using ?
    > We have our son on Virgin Mobile right now....
    > but he's starting to eat up the minutes
    > It seemed the best at 90 day interval for adding funds.
    >
    > "Patrick C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> We use prepaid, buy 1000 minutes at a time for $100 and only pay sales
    >> tax
    >> on that (less we find refill card on EBay). We live in Illinois and our
    >> local sales taxes are 7%. The minutes last a year then are rollable if
    >> you
    >> don't use them. Of course we don't use that many minutes to begin with
    >> and
    >> the prepaid phone selection isn't that great. We have 2 non camera
    >> phones
    >> and a Sidekick II I only use for 10 days every 3 months ($10 a crack)
    >> when
    >> we go on vacation so we don't have to lug the laptop around.
    >>
    >> "P.Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >> > My son is out looking at different cell plans so he can get a
    >> > smartphone..
    >> > However, I've warned him - for budgeting purposes - that the real
    >> > monthly
    >> > cost
    >> > is not just the detailed voice and/or data plan,
    >> > but it also includes the local TAXES.
    >> >
    >> > Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
    >> > it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%
    >> >
    >> > So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost vs added
    >> > taxes ?
    >> >

    >>

    >
    >





  10. #10
    Wooly
    Guest

    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    Larry wrote:
    >
    > Hmm....If a child is that young, shouldn't it be with its parents
    > or a trusted adult? If a child is 12, these days, the child has
    > his/her own phone and knows much more about its use (and hacking)
    > than all the adults in the house, combined.


    A child can pick up the phone, dial 911 and say "my mom has diabetes and
    I can't wake her up". That's much easier to do when the phone isn't a
    moving target, and there are only three buttons to push.

    Be snyde and ignorant all you want - if you had kids or medical
    conditions or both you might have a little more appreciation for a
    hardwired phone.

    > As to 911, the SELLphone in the child's pocket is accessible,
    > from anywhere the child is located.....not just if the child is
    > trapped against the kitchen wall where the wall phone is located.
    > The kitchen phone won't help the child on her way home from
    > school or at the store or at the neighbor's house locked up by
    > the pedophile daddy of her friend, will it?


    You obviously don't have children. Show me one who remembers his
    pencil, his homework, his lunchbox and his jacket every morning and I
    might agree that's a kid who is responsible enough to own a cellphone.
    Until you prove to me that you're talking about MY kid I'll continue to
    be a responsible parent by knowing his friends, his friends' parents,
    his hangouts, his hobbies and his habits - all of which goes a whole lot
    farther toward keeping a kid safe than a gadget in his pocket.



  11. #11
    Ben Skversky
    Guest

    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    My $39.99 monthly bill totals out at $47.79. I'm with T-Mobile in
    Pennsylvania.


    "P.Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > My son is out looking at different cell plans so he can get a smartphone..
    > However, I've warned him - for budgeting purposes - that the real monthly
    > cost
    > is not just the detailed voice and/or data plan,
    > but it also includes the local TAXES.
    >
    > Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
    > it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%
    >
    > So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost vs added
    > taxes ?
    >






  12. #12
    SMS 斯蒂文• 夏
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    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    P.Schuman wrote:
    > My son is out looking at different cell plans so he can get a smartphone..
    > However, I've warned him - for budgeting purposes - that the real monthly
    > cost
    > is not just the detailed voice and/or data plan,
    > but it also includes the local TAXES.
    >
    > Looking at some of my old Sprint bills,
    > it looks like a $39 plan had about $7.50 added in taxes = 20%
    >
    > So - what do you see on your bill as far as actual plan cost vs added taxes


    It's not just government imposed taxes, it's the garbage fees that the
    carrier adds-on to be able to appear to offer lower rates than they
    actually do.

    Does he want a SmartPhone to be able to use it primarily with WiFi, or
    does he also want to use the 3G network where it starts to get really
    expensive.

    There are so many variables in choosing a "SmartPhone."

    -If voice coverage is an issue then get Verizon

    -If 3G coverage is an issue then get Sprint or Verizon

    -If Wi-Fi is sufficient and 3G isn't needed, an unlocked iPhone used on
    T-Mobile prepaid at 10¢/minute may be the best deal. The next iPhone
    will have 3G, so it's worth waiting if he wants an iPhone for use with
    the AT&T data network.

    -Will he have a landline phone to be able to use a monthly cell plan
    with less minutes? It's often amusing to see people give up their
    landline which typically has a cost of under $20, and end up with an
    $80/month cell phone bill, versus a $40/per month bill, plus also
    spending $50/month on broadband from the cable company versus
    $20-30/month for DSL.

    When you look at the big picture, a low-cost cell phone plan plus a
    landline with something like OneSuite or Talkloop ends up being a _lot_
    less expensive if you have the discipline to minimize your cell phone
    use. With PagePlus now down to 5.7¢/minute, $40 buys you more than 700
    minutes.



  13. #13
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    -= Hawk =- <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:07:14 +0000, Larry <[email protected]>

    scribbled:
    >
    >>My family is all dead. Do you think your landline can call

    them?
    >
    > Are you always this much of an asshole or are you extra special

    bitter
    > becuase of the holidays? Don't bother letting me know, I really

    don't
    > give a ****.
    >
    >


    Wha'd I say?? It's true! They're all dead! It's not my fault
    they're dead! Most died in their 80's!

    Geez....

    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v



  14. #14
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    Wooly <[email protected]> wrote in news:4755647f$0$2314
    [email protected]:

    > You obviously don't have children. Show me one who remembers

    his
    > pencil, his homework, his lunchbox and his jacket every morning

    and I
    > might agree that's a kid who is responsible enough to own a

    cellphone.
    > Until you prove to me that you're talking about MY kid I'll

    continue to
    > be a responsible parent by knowing his friends, his friends'

    parents,
    > his hangouts, his hobbies and his habits - all of which goes a

    whole lot
    > farther toward keeping a kid safe than a gadget in his pocket.
    >


    The modern kid will lose everything EXCEPT his video game and
    SELLphone. My kids all grown and gone, she's 38. She lost
    everything...it's a blonde thing...including a LOT of boyfriends.

    But lose the COMMUNICATIONS link to the boyfriends? Uh-uh..

    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v



  15. #15
    clifto
    Guest

    Re: basic cellular bill + added taxes ?

    Patrick C wrote:
    > We use prepaid, buy 1000 minutes at a time for $100 and only pay sales tax
    > on that (less we find refill card on EBay). We live in Illinois and our
    > local sales taxes are 7%. The minutes last a year then are rollable if you
    > don't use them. Of course we don't use that many minutes to begin with and
    > the prepaid phone selection isn't that great.


    I was told at a T-Mobile store that you can have any phone they offer, for
    the equivalent of the one-year-commitment price plus $50.

    --
    A staffer for Democrat Senator Maria Cantwell of Washington has been
    arrested for trying to arrange a sexual tryst with a 13-year old boy.
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...72senate1.html



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