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  1. #1
    Homer HawgSnott
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    My contact is ending with verizon and am looking at a blackberry with
    unlimited data. How is the coverage and service for southern calif
    customers?

    JohnS



    See More: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?




  2. #2
    Jar-Jar Binks
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    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    It is better than Verizon. I had Verizon for 10 years and switched to Sprint
    about two years ago. The coverage in SoCal is better. Another plus is that
    you can force any of the Sprint phones to roam on Verizon if you would like
    even if you are receiving a strong Sprint signal. No other cell phone
    provider lets you do that!

    I am not a Sprint Shill or a dealer, I am just satisfied with the service
    that Sprint provides in SoCal.

    Jar-Jar


    "Homer HawgSnott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > My contact is ending with verizon and am looking at a blackberry with
    > unlimited data. How is the coverage and service for southern calif
    > customers?
    >
    > JohnS






  3. #3
    SMS 斯蒂文• 夏
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    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    Homer HawgSnott wrote:
    > My contact is ending with verizon and am looking at a blackberry with
    > unlimited data. How is the coverage and service for southern calif
    > customers?
    >
    > JohnS


    In the latest Consumer Reports, while Sprint was rated last over all for
    L.A. (they were last in 19 out of 20 metro areas), in the four
    categories they ranked, Sprint was only a little behind Verizon.

    From the people I know with Sprint in Southern California, the coverage
    isn't quite as good as Verizon's in terms of "No Service" or dropped
    calls, but Sprint isn't any worse than AT&T, and is better than T-Mobile.

    I guess you have a reason for leaving Verizon, but understand that in
    California they have the best network by a wide margin, both in the
    southern and northern parts of the state.



  4. #4
    Jar-Jar Binks
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    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    The consumer reports assessment needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I am
    with a company that did testing of both Verizon and Sprint phones, and they
    found that in the Southern California Area, Sprint and Verizon were equal.
    In fact, Verizon doesn't get a signal into many of the offices and labs at
    the company that is located on Faraday Avenue in Carlsbad California in the
    middle of a large hi-tech industrial park!! On the other hand, Sprint
    provided full signal throughtout the buliding.

    Don't believe that hype that you read! The folks at Consumer Reports are
    biased and are smoking crack. Get a Sprint phone and give it a try. As I
    stated previously, you can force your Sprint Phone to roam on Verizon at
    ANYTIME reglardless of whether or not you are receiving a Sprint signal. You
    can't do that with any other service provider including Verizon. In reality,
    there are some areas where Verizon doesn't provide a usable signal and
    Sprint provided a good signal, and vice-versa. It is nice to have the
    capability to be able to choose. Sprint gives you the option to choose. If
    you set the phone to "roam" then you are using Verizon. Verizon doesn't give
    you the option to choose. There are a lot of folks at my company that have
    Verizon and wish that they could set the phone to roam on Sprint when they
    want to use their phone in one of our labs or conference rooms at our
    company in Carlsbad California. On the other hand, if I for any reason ever
    need to roam on Verizon, all I need to do is to set the phone to "roam" and
    it will use Verizon until I tell it to go back to Sprint or automatic
    roaming. Therefore, with Sprint you have the best of both worlds.


    "SMS ???. ?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Homer HawgSnott wrote:
    >> My contact is ending with verizon and am looking at a blackberry with
    >> unlimited data. How is the coverage and service for southern calif
    >> customers? JohnS

    >
    > In the latest Consumer Reports, while Sprint was rated last over all for
    > L.A. (they were last in 19 out of 20 metro areas), in the four categories
    > they ranked, Sprint was only a little behind Verizon.
    >
    > From the people I know with Sprint in Southern California, the coverage
    > isn't quite as good as Verizon's in terms of "No Service" or dropped
    > calls, but Sprint isn't any worse than AT&T, and is better than T-Mobile.
    >
    > I guess you have a reason for leaving Verizon, but understand that in
    > California they have the best network by a wide margin, both in the
    > southern and northern parts of the state.






  5. #5
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    On 2007-12-14, SMS 斯蒂文• 夏 <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I guess you have a reason for leaving Verizon, but understand that in
    > California they have the best network by a wide margin, both in the
    > southern and northern parts of the state.


    It really depends on what you need. Out here, 70(ish) miles northeast of
    Los Angeles, Verizon has coverage where Sprint has nothing, on National
    Trails Highway (old US 66) between Victorville and Barstow, but Sprint has
    coverage at my old house in the Sycamore Rocks subdivision of Apple Valley,
    where I was *just* out of range of Verizon. Sycamore Rocks is a rather remote
    neighborhood on the edge of town.

    --
    Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
    Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol




  6. #6
    TL Mitchell
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    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?


    "Jar-Jar Binks" <[email protected]> wrote

    <snipped>

    >>As I stated previously, you can force your Sprint Phone to roam on Verizon
    >>at

    ANYTIME reglardless of whether or not you are receiving a Sprint signal. <<

    How ya do that? My phone shows roaming selections for Automatic, Sprint and
    Analog....... and that's it. Is this handset-dependent?

    TL





  7. #7
    SMS 斯蒂文• 夏
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    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    TL Mitchell wrote:
    > "Jar-Jar Binks" <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    > <snipped>
    >
    >>> As I stated previously, you can force your Sprint Phone to roam on Verizon
    >>> at

    > ANYTIME reglardless of whether or not you are receiving a Sprint signal. <<
    >
    > How ya do that? My phone shows roaming selections for Automatic, Sprint and
    > Analog....... and that's it. Is this handset-dependent?


    Well until 2008, if you force it to Analog then you won't be on Sprint,
    you'll be on Verizon or AT&T, or one of the many other AMPS networks
    scattered around. After Verizon and AT&T shut down AMPS, some rural AMPS
    will still be around.

    But no, Sprint does not allow Verizon roaming unconditionally. Generally
    it's only in areas where Sprint has no network. It's all controlled by
    the PRL (preferred roaming list) in the phone. Sometimes if you have a
    very old PRL you can roam, but an updated PRL won't roam.

    If Sprint allowed subscribers to roam onto Verizon, even in areas where
    Sprint had a network but lacked coverage in particular areas, then there
    would be a mass migration to Sprint.



  8. #8
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    On 2007-12-14, Jar-Jar Binks <[email protected]> wrote:
    > The consumer reports assessment needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I am
    > with a company that did testing of both Verizon and Sprint phones, and they
    > found that in the Southern California Area, Sprint and Verizon were equal.
    > In fact, Verizon doesn't get a signal into many of the offices and labs at
    > the company that is located on Faraday Avenue in Carlsbad California in the
    > middle of a large hi-tech industrial park!! On the other hand, Sprint
    > provided full signal throughtout the buliding.


    As always, the BEST thing to do is to talk to people who use Carrier X in
    the areas where you need coverage, to determine whether X is right for you.


    --
    Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
    Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol




  9. #9
    Dennis Ferguson
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    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    On 2007-12-14, Jar-Jar Binks <[email protected]> wrote:
    > The consumer reports assessment needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I am
    > with a company that did testing of both Verizon and Sprint phones, and they
    > found that in the Southern California Area, Sprint and Verizon were equal.

    [...]
    > Don't believe that hype that you read! The folks at Consumer Reports are
    > biased and are smoking crack.


    I've got a feeling you haven't actually looked at the Consumer Reports
    survey. In Los Angeles they actually agree with you, pretty much. Sprint
    and Verizon had about the same coverage, with Sprint only dropping calls
    a bit more frequently. The thing is, though, Los Angeles is just about
    Verizon's worst case metro area in the country according to the survey,
    but is pretty close to average for Sprint.

    Sprint did end up at the bottom of the "customer satisfaction" ratings
    in Los Angeles, but that rating covers a lot more than just coverage and,
    having been a Sprint customer for quite a few years, I can also agree that
    some things at Sprint, like their billing system and customer service in
    general, are truly screwed up.

    > Get a Sprint phone and give it a try. As I
    > stated previously, you can force your Sprint Phone to roam on Verizon at
    > ANYTIME reglardless of whether or not you are receiving a Sprint signal.


    What model phone do you have? I've not seen a Sprint phone that would
    let you do that.

    Dennis Ferguson



  10. #10
    DTC
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    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    Steve Sobol wrote:
    > As always, the BEST thing to do is to talk to people who use Carrier X in
    > the areas where you need coverage, to determine whether X is right for you.


    AMEN!

    Regardless of the 28,800 minutes for $60 per month, downloadable rings
    tones, switchable face plates, etc...

    If the phone doesn't work where use it the most, its worthless.

    As I posted a few years ago, AT&T had anon-line questionnaire asking
    what features were most important to you. It include switchable
    faceplates, flip or candybar form factor, ringtones, wallpaper and
    several other mindless non-functional things. Never did ask if voice
    quality, coverage, or dropped calls was important.

    And yes...I did get a mailer from MCI offering me 28,800 minutes for $60
    per month! Knowing that MCI was a Southwestern Bell Mobile reseller, I
    knew what the real rates were. The 28,8000 minutes was for 600 peak
    minutes, and 1200 mobile to mobile minutes PER MONTH, but advertised
    over a whole year.

    As one cellular executive was quoted as saying around that time,
    "Americans are impressed by big numbers" or to that effect.




  11. #11
    Dennis Ferguson
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    On 2007-12-14, SMS ???? ? <[email protected]> wrote:
    > TL Mitchell wrote:
    >> "Jar-Jar Binks" <[email protected]> wrote
    >>
    >> <snipped>
    >>
    >>>> As I stated previously, you can force your Sprint Phone to roam on Verizon
    >>>> at

    >> ANYTIME reglardless of whether or not you are receiving a Sprint signal. <<
    >>
    >> How ya do that? My phone shows roaming selections for Automatic, Sprint and
    >> Analog....... and that's it. Is this handset-dependent?

    [...]
    > But no, Sprint does not allow Verizon roaming unconditionally. Generally
    > it's only in areas where Sprint has no network. It's all controlled by
    > the PRL (preferred roaming list) in the phone. Sometimes if you have a
    > very old PRL you can roam, but an updated PRL won't roam.


    I don't know about that. The most recent Sprint PRL I could find
    decoded (20229, 7/31/2007) includes as much Verizon coverage in
    California as Verizon's own PRL does. If there are roaming restrictions
    they aren't being implemented with the PRL.

    I just don't know what kind of Sprint phone can be forced to roam in the
    presence of any level of native coverage. My Verizon phone might do
    it (by forcing it to cellular only) but I've not seen a Sprint phone
    with those menus intact.

    Dennis Ferguson



  12. #12
    Jar-Jar Binks
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    No! You have a very old Sprint phone, Any of the Sprint all-digital phones
    will allow you to force roaming. There are three options: Sprint Only,
    Automatic, and Roaming Only.


    "TL Mitchell" <tlmitchell99(nospam)@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Jar-Jar Binks" <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    > <snipped>
    >
    >>>As I stated previously, you can force your Sprint Phone to roam on
    >>>Verizon at

    > ANYTIME reglardless of whether or not you are receiving a Sprint signal.
    > <<
    >
    > How ya do that? My phone shows roaming selections for Automatic, Sprint
    > and Analog....... and that's it. Is this handset-dependent?
    >
    > TL
    >






  13. #13
    Jar-Jar Binks
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    This is incorrect information. I have the latest Sprint PRL and can force
    roaming on Verizon anytime that I like. The phone will stay in roaming mode
    even after power-cycles. Please do some research before posting. :-)


    "SMS ???. ?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > TL Mitchell wrote:
    >> "Jar-Jar Binks" <[email protected]> wrote
    >>
    >> <snipped>
    >>
    >>>> As I stated previously, you can force your Sprint Phone to roam on
    >>>> Verizon at

    >> ANYTIME reglardless of whether or not you are receiving a Sprint signal.
    >> <<
    >>
    >> How ya do that? My phone shows roaming selections for Automatic, Sprint
    >> and Analog....... and that's it. Is this handset-dependent?

    >
    > Well until 2008, if you force it to Analog then you won't be on Sprint,
    > you'll be on Verizon or AT&T, or one of the many other AMPS networks
    > scattered around. After Verizon and AT&T shut down AMPS, some rural AMPS
    > will still be around.
    >
    > But no, Sprint does not allow Verizon roaming unconditionally. Generally
    > it's only in areas where Sprint has no network. It's all controlled by the
    > PRL (preferred roaming list) in the phone. Sometimes if you have a very
    > old PRL you can roam, but an updated PRL won't roam.
    >
    > If Sprint allowed subscribers to roam onto Verizon, even in areas where
    > Sprint had a network but lacked coverage in particular areas, then there
    > would be a mass migration to Sprint.






  14. #14
    Jar-Jar Binks
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    Any Sprint digital phone that is less than two years old can do it. Just
    select "roaming only" mode.

    "Dennis Ferguson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On 2007-12-14, SMS ???? ? <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> TL Mitchell wrote:
    >>> "Jar-Jar Binks" <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>
    >>> <snipped>
    >>>
    >>>>> As I stated previously, you can force your Sprint Phone to roam on
    >>>>> Verizon
    >>>>> at
    >>> ANYTIME reglardless of whether or not you are receiving a Sprint signal.
    >>> <<
    >>>
    >>> How ya do that? My phone shows roaming selections for Automatic, Sprint
    >>> and
    >>> Analog....... and that's it. Is this handset-dependent?

    > [...]
    >> But no, Sprint does not allow Verizon roaming unconditionally. Generally
    >> it's only in areas where Sprint has no network. It's all controlled by
    >> the PRL (preferred roaming list) in the phone. Sometimes if you have a
    >> very old PRL you can roam, but an updated PRL won't roam.

    >
    > I don't know about that. The most recent Sprint PRL I could find
    > decoded (20229, 7/31/2007) includes as much Verizon coverage in
    > California as Verizon's own PRL does. If there are roaming restrictions
    > they aren't being implemented with the PRL.
    >
    > I just don't know what kind of Sprint phone can be forced to roam in the
    > presence of any level of native coverage. My Verizon phone might do
    > it (by forcing it to cellular only) but I've not seen a Sprint phone
    > with those menus intact.
    >
    > Dennis Ferguson






  15. #15
    Jar-Jar Binks
    Guest

    Re: Sprint Coverage/service in SoCal?

    Dennis,

    I have a Motorola KRZR and had a RAZR before that and a Sanyo before that.
    The trick is to get a phone that is less than two years old and that is
    digital only (no analog). All Sprint phones digital phones now have a
    "roaming only" mode. Go into a Sprint Store and try it.


    "Dennis Ferguson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On 2007-12-14, Jar-Jar Binks <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> The consumer reports assessment needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I
    >> am
    >> with a company that did testing of both Verizon and Sprint phones, and
    >> they
    >> found that in the Southern California Area, Sprint and Verizon were
    >> equal.

    > [...]
    >> Don't believe that hype that you read! The folks at Consumer Reports are
    >> biased and are smoking crack.

    >
    > I've got a feeling you haven't actually looked at the Consumer Reports
    > survey. In Los Angeles they actually agree with you, pretty much. Sprint
    > and Verizon had about the same coverage, with Sprint only dropping calls
    > a bit more frequently. The thing is, though, Los Angeles is just about
    > Verizon's worst case metro area in the country according to the survey,
    > but is pretty close to average for Sprint.
    >
    > Sprint did end up at the bottom of the "customer satisfaction" ratings
    > in Los Angeles, but that rating covers a lot more than just coverage and,
    > having been a Sprint customer for quite a few years, I can also agree that
    > some things at Sprint, like their billing system and customer service in
    > general, are truly screwed up.
    >
    >> Get a Sprint phone and give it a try. As I
    >> stated previously, you can force your Sprint Phone to roam on Verizon at
    >> ANYTIME reglardless of whether or not you are receiving a Sprint signal.

    >
    > What model phone do you have? I've not seen a Sprint phone that would
    > let you do that.
    >
    > Dennis Ferguson






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