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  1. #1
    Roger 2008
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    I can easily get the "Phone as Modem" to work via USB but I can not get the
    "Phone as Modem" to work via Bluetooth.

    I was informed today that Sprint has disabled that feature.

    Any input?

    TIA





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  2. #2
    Todd Wade
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    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth

    On Dec 16, 6:02 pm, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I can easily get the "Phone as Modem" to work via USB but I can not get the
    > "Phone as Modem" to work via Bluetooth.
    >
    > I was informed today that Sprint has disabled that feature.
    >
    > Any input?


    I've only used the USB cable because it is faster.

    Page 137 of the users guide for the phone give instructions on how to
    use the phone-as-modem over bluetooth, so I doubt that it is disabled
    (http://www.sprint.com/cdma/assets/pd...ne_guides/htc/
    ppc_6800_ug.pdf)

    Which part of the instructions can you not get to work? What happened
    when you called customer support or stopped in a store and showed them
    the step in the user's guide that isn't working on your phone?

    Todd W.



  3. #3
    Roger 2008
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    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth


    "Todd Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Dec 16, 6:02 pm, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > I can easily get the "Phone as Modem" to work via USB but I can not get

    the
    > > "Phone as Modem" to work via Bluetooth.
    > >
    > > I was informed today that Sprint has disabled that feature.
    > >
    > > Any input?

    >
    > I've only used the USB cable because it is faster.
    >
    > Page 137 of the users guide for the phone give instructions on how to
    > use the phone-as-modem over bluetooth, so I doubt that it is disabled
    > (http://www.sprint.com/cdma/assets/pd...ne_guides/htc/
    > ppc_6800_ug.pdf)
    >
    > Which part of the instructions can you not get to work? What happened
    > when you called customer support or stopped in a store and showed them
    > the step in the user's guide that isn't working on your phone?
    >
    > Todd W.


    Thanks for the link and I'm actually trying to go phone to phone via
    Bluetooth. I can get it to work to the Sprint Mogul but I can not get it to
    work from the Sprint Mogul.

    I followed instructions on a Microsoft website and the Sprint Mogul just
    doesn't allow you to use any of it's features via Bluetooth. It is a pain
    in the butt and I asked someone that works for Sprint to check into it for
    me.





  4. #4

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth

    On Dec 21 2007, 2:35*pm, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Todd Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Dec 16, 6:02 pm, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > I can easily get the "Phone as Modem" to work via USB but I can not get

    > the
    > > > "Phone as Modem" to work via Bluetooth.

    >
    > > > I was informed today that Sprint has disabled that feature.

    >
    > > > Any input?

    >
    > > I've only used the USB cable because it is faster.

    >
    > > Page 137 of the users guide for the phone give instructions on how to
    > > use the phone-as-modem over bluetooth, so I doubt that it is disabled
    > > (http://www.sprint.com/cdma/assets/pd...ne_guides/htc/
    > > ppc_6800_ug.pdf)

    >
    > > Which part of the instructions can you not get to work? What happened
    > > when you called customer support or stopped in a store and showed them
    > > the step in the user's guide that isn't working on your phone?

    >
    > > Todd W.

    >
    > Thanks for the link and I'm actually trying to go phone to phone via
    > Bluetooth. *I can get it to work to the Sprint Mogul but I can not get it to
    > work from the Sprint Mogul.
    >
    > I followed instructions on a Microsoft website and the Sprint Mogul just
    > doesn't allow you to use any of it's features via Bluetooth. *It is a pain
    > in the butt and I asked someone that works for Sprint to check into it for
    > me.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I was able to connect via bluetooth , make sure that your settings on
    the phone are set " make this device visible to other devices" under
    the bluetooth settings

    also on the phone go to programs then internet sharings and make sure
    thta you have bluetooth under pc connection

    then on your computer go the bluetooth wizard and set it to search for
    a device you should see ur phone come up as a new network connection
    or something like that
    make sure your Wirelless connection is disable first as well so youll
    know that you are connected with Bluetooth not wifi

    then double clikc on the new network connection and should connect
    but also go to ie on the phone so that it dials out and connect first
    to the internet





  5. #5
    Roger 2008
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    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]m...
    On Dec 21 2007, 2:35 pm, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Todd Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Dec 16, 6:02 pm, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > I can easily get the "Phone as Modem" to work via USB but I can not

    get
    > the
    > > > "Phone as Modem" to work via Bluetooth.

    >
    > > > I was informed today that Sprint has disabled that feature.

    >
    > > > Any input?

    >
    > > I've only used the USB cable because it is faster.

    >
    > > Page 137 of the users guide for the phone give instructions on how to
    > > use the phone-as-modem over bluetooth, so I doubt that it is disabled
    > > (http://www.sprint.com/cdma/assets/pd...ne_guides/htc/
    > > ppc_6800_ug.pdf)

    >
    > > Which part of the instructions can you not get to work? What happened
    > > when you called customer support or stopped in a store and showed them
    > > the step in the user's guide that isn't working on your phone?

    >
    > > Todd W.

    >
    > Thanks for the link and I'm actually trying to go phone to phone via
    > Bluetooth. I can get it to work to the Sprint Mogul but I can not get it

    to
    > work from the Sprint Mogul.
    >
    > I followed instructions on a Microsoft website and the Sprint Mogul just
    > doesn't allow you to use any of it's features via Bluetooth. It is a pain
    > in the butt and I asked someone that works for Sprint to check into it for
    > me.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I was able to connect via bluetooth , make sure that your settings on
    the phone are set " make this device visible to other devices" under
    the bluetooth settings

    also on the phone go to programs then internet sharings and make sure
    thta you have bluetooth under pc connection

    then on your computer go the bluetooth wizard and set it to search for
    a device you should see ur phone come up as a new network connection
    or something like that
    make sure your Wirelless connection is disable first as well so youll
    know that you are connected with Bluetooth not wifi

    then double clikc on the new network connection and should connect
    but also go to ie on the phone so that it dials out and connect first
    to the internet

    -- Reply below ---------------------

    Glad to hear the bluetooth internet worked for somebody and I'll try it
    again after I upgrade my ROM. BTW my ROM date found under
    Settings->System->Device Information 06/14/07.

    FYI I ended up sharing the internet on my Mogul via WiFi instead of
    Bluetooth with a program called WMWiFiRouter.





  6. #6
    Roger 2008
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]m...
    On Dec 21 2007, 2:35 pm, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Todd Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Dec 16, 6:02 pm, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > > I can easily get the "Phone as Modem" to work via USB but I can not

    get
    > the
    > > > "Phone as Modem" to work via Bluetooth.

    >
    > > > I was informed today that Sprint has disabled that feature.

    >
    > > > Any input?

    >
    > > I've only used the USB cable because it is faster.

    >
    > > Page 137 of the users guide for the phone give instructions on how to
    > > use the phone-as-modem over bluetooth, so I doubt that it is disabled
    > > (http://www.sprint.com/cdma/assets/pd...ne_guides/htc/
    > > ppc_6800_ug.pdf)

    >
    > > Which part of the instructions can you not get to work? What happened
    > > when you called customer support or stopped in a store and showed them
    > > the step in the user's guide that isn't working on your phone?

    >
    > > Todd W.

    >
    > Thanks for the link and I'm actually trying to go phone to phone via
    > Bluetooth. I can get it to work to the Sprint Mogul but I can not get it

    to
    > work from the Sprint Mogul.
    >
    > I followed instructions on a Microsoft website and the Sprint Mogul just
    > doesn't allow you to use any of it's features via Bluetooth. It is a pain
    > in the butt and I asked someone that works for Sprint to check into it for
    > me.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I was able to connect via bluetooth , make sure that your settings on
    the phone are set " make this device visible to other devices" under
    the bluetooth settings

    also on the phone go to programs then internet sharings and make sure
    thta you have bluetooth under pc connection

    then on your computer go the bluetooth wizard and set it to search for
    a device you should see ur phone come up as a new network connection
    or something like that
    make sure your Wirelless connection is disable first as well so youll
    know that you are connected with Bluetooth not wifi

    then double clikc on the new network connection and should connect
    but also go to ie on the phone so that it dials out and connect first
    to the internet

    ----- Reply below --------------

    After buying the hardware below I got "Phone as Modem" to work via Bluetooth
    to a laptop with exactly what you posted above.
    http://us.kensington.com/html/14409.html

    I have been testing it with "Slingplayer" on my laptop found at:
    http://slingmedia.com

    For some reason it doesn't always stay connected so you have to hit connect
    on the phone first and then hit "Connect" in the Bluetooth Manager to get
    things going again.

    FYI it doesn't seem to run as fast as a USB connection and the site I use to
    verify the speed difference is:
    http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed

    Thanks again for your input.





  7. #7
    Michael N. Paris
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth


    I have done it BT for teethering with PDANET, only reason I don't do in
    anymore is to keep the phone somewhat charged, it will drain your battery
    down real fast.




  8. #8
    William H. Bowen
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth

    "Michael N. Paris" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >I have done it BT for teethering with PDANET, only reason I don't do in
    >anymore is to keep the phone somewhat charged, it will drain your battery
    >down real fast.


    Michael,

    I feel your pain on that issue! Running my Palm 755P in PAM mode,
    even using USB, sucks that battery down quite quickly. Same goes for
    listening to streaming media.

    Regards,
    Bill Bowen
    Sacramento, CA.



  9. #9
    Roger 2008
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth


    "Michael N. Paris" <mp[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > I have done it BT for teethering with PDANET, only reason I don't do in
    > anymore is to keep the phone somewhat charged, it will drain your battery
    > down real fast.


    Thanks for the info and you sold me on a copy of PDANET.

    Now I can use my Mogul for DUN for another hand held device.





  10. #10
    Michael N. Paris
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth



    > Thanks for the info and you sold me on a copy of PDANET.
    >
    > Now I can use my Mogul for DUN for another hand held device.
    >
    >

    It is worth every penny, and I do like to reward authors of good quality
    shareware.




  11. #11
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth


    "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Michael N. Paris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >>
    >>
    >> > Thanks for the info and you sold me on a copy of PDANET.
    >> >
    >> > Now I can use my Mogul for DUN for another hand held device.
    >> >
    >> >

    >> It is worth every penny, and I do like to reward authors of good quality
    >> shareware.

    >
    > Once again, thanks for the info.
    >
    > Yes it is "good quality shareware" but I've seen Pocket PCs that come out
    > of
    > the box with the ability to use them as a BT DUN so PDANET isn't even
    > necessary on those devices. I don't know why that seems to have been
    > changed in Windows Mobile.


    Because WM6 now uses PAN (Personal Area Network) instead of DUN. There
    should be an app called "Internet Sharing" on the device.

    The advantage of PAN is any idiot can use it- you fire up Internet Sharing
    with the device pluged into to USB (or bluetooth) and the phone acts like a
    network adapter to connect you to the internet (it acts more like a cellular
    datacard than a modem.)

    The disadvantages of PAN are, a) most other mobile devices can't use it, so
    you can't hook up a PPC to a WM6 phone, for example, and b) the PC
    connecting to the device must have Activesync or WMDC installed (because the
    drivers are integrated into the sync software.)

    The joys of Windows Mobile upgrades- two steps forward, one step back. ;-)






  12. #12
    Roger 2008
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth


    "Michael N. Paris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    >
    > > Thanks for the info and you sold me on a copy of PDANET.
    > >
    > > Now I can use my Mogul for DUN for another hand held device.
    > >
    > >

    > It is worth every penny, and I do like to reward authors of good quality
    > shareware.


    Once again, thanks for the info.

    Yes it is "good quality shareware" but I've seen Pocket PCs that come out of
    the box with the ability to use them as a BT DUN so PDANET isn't even
    necessary on those devices. I don't know why that seems to have been
    changed in Windows Mobile.

    BTW I tried USBmodem from http://www.mobile-stream.com/usbmodem_wm.html a
    while back and it didn't work as advertised.

    I tried it again after installing PDANET and it worked but after running
    USBmodem the only way I could get PDANET to work again was to clear memory
    and install everything again. Ugh.





  13. #13
    Roger 2008
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth


    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > "Michael N. Paris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> > Thanks for the info and you sold me on a copy of PDANET.
    > >> >
    > >> > Now I can use my Mogul for DUN for another hand held device.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> It is worth every penny, and I do like to reward authors of good

    quality
    > >> shareware.

    > >
    > > Once again, thanks for the info.
    > >
    > > Yes it is "good quality shareware" but I've seen Pocket PCs that come

    out
    > > of
    > > the box with the ability to use them as a BT DUN so PDANET isn't even
    > > necessary on those devices. I don't know why that seems to have been
    > > changed in Windows Mobile.

    >
    > Because WM6 now uses PAN (Personal Area Network) instead of DUN. There
    > should be an app called "Internet Sharing" on the device.
    >
    > The advantage of PAN is any idiot can use it- you fire up Internet Sharing
    > with the device pluged into to USB (or bluetooth) and the phone acts like

    a
    > network adapter to connect you to the internet (it acts more like a

    cellular
    > datacard than a modem.)
    >
    > The disadvantages of PAN are, a) most other mobile devices can't use it,

    so
    > you can't hook up a PPC to a WM6 phone, for example, and b) the PC
    > connecting to the device must have Activesync or WMDC installed (because

    the
    > drivers are integrated into the sync software.)
    >
    > The joys of Windows Mobile upgrades- two steps forward, one step back.

    ;-)

    Exactly and I especially agree with your "disadvantages" paragraph since I'm
    thinking of getting an HP IPAQ 211 without it's own internet.

    BTW I just looked up "BT DUN" on the internet and found: "Why did we remove
    Bluetooth DUN?".
    http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/...tooth-dun.aspx

    It makes it look like they are trying to blame the OEMs for removing BT DUN.
    Either way, it is not very fun trying to work around things that have
    changed.





  14. #14
    DTC
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth

    Todd Allcock wrote:
    > The joys of Windows Mobile upgrades- two steps forward, one step back. ;-)


    Old news...remember the MS DOS upgrade from 3 to 4? HAH HAH HAH



  15. #15
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Mogul: Phone as Modem via Bluetooth


    "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]

    >> The disadvantages of PAN are, a) most other mobile devices can't use it,
    >> so you can't hook up a PPC to a WM6 phone, for example, and b) the PC
    >> connecting to the device must have Activesync or WMDC installed (because
    >> the drivers are integrated into the sync software.)
    >>
    >> The joys of Windows Mobile upgrades- two steps forward, one step back.
    >> ;-)

    >
    > Exactly and I especially agree with your "disadvantages" paragraph since
    > I'm
    > thinking of getting an HP IPAQ 211 without it's own internet.
    >
    > BTW I just looked up "BT DUN" on the internet and found: "Why did we
    > remove
    > Bluetooth DUN?".
    > http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/...tooth-dun.aspx
    >
    > It makes it look like they are trying to blame the OEMs for removing BT
    > DUN.
    > Either way, it is not very fun trying to work around things that have
    > changed.


    I almost added "PAN is easier for wireless carriers to disable" under
    "advantages" (with tongue planted firmly in cheek!) Any carrier that wants
    to disallow tethering external devices now simply has to remove the Internet
    Sharing applet, rather than try to cripple the bluetooth stack or functions,
    so it has major advantages over BT DUN for wireless OEMs. (Ironically, IR
    DUN generally still works fine, however, if you can leave both devices
    aligned on a desk.)









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