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  1. #1
    P.Schuman
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    CoveyIsle wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I want to purchase a used Chocloate by Verizon.
    >
    > Verizon told me the DNS is locked because it was once reported lost.
    > And therefore it cannot be activated.
    >
    > Is this phone really unusable, forever? I can get it for onlry $25.oo.


    it's ESN - electronic serial number -
    and when they are reported as lost or stolen - can't tell the difference -
    they are added to a strike out database... that phone is dead to the
    network/s -

    Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
    eBay,
    then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer, and
    learned.....

    I wonder if the strike out database shows a difference between lost or
    stolen ?
    lost = accidental and could be re-activated when found
    stolen = theft for profit & resale






    See More: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen




  2. #2
    News
    Guest

    Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen



    P.Schuman wrote:
    > CoveyIsle wrote:
    >
    >>Hi,
    >>
    >>I want to purchase a used Chocloate by Verizon.
    >>
    >>Verizon told me the DNS is locked because it was once reported lost.
    >>And therefore it cannot be activated.
    >>
    >>Is this phone really unusable, forever? I can get it for onlry $25.oo.

    >
    >
    > it's ESN - electronic serial number -
    > and when they are reported as lost or stolen - can't tell the difference -
    > they are added to a strike out database... that phone is dead to the
    > network/s -



    For calls, yes, but this does not appear to bar SMS gateway transactions.



  3. #3
    Bill Kearney
    Guest

    Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen


    > Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
    > eBay, then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer, and
    > learned.....


    Gee, you'll take the time to setup an ebay auction, but not to just drop it
    off to a local phone store? How civic minded of you... not.

    I've dropped off several phones I've found over the years. One wasn't from
    that provider, but they looked whose it was, so I walked over to that store
    instead. No reward, no thanks, just a clear conscience.





  4. #4
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen

    Bill Kearney wrote:
    >> Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
    >> eBay, then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer, and
    >> learned.....

    >
    > Gee, you'll take the time to setup an ebay auction, but not to just drop it
    > off to a local phone store? How civic minded of you... not.
    >
    > I've dropped off several phones I've found over the years. One wasn't from
    > that provider, but they looked whose it was, so I walked over to that store
    > instead. No reward, no thanks, just a clear conscience.


    I found a cell phone in the street once, and it was a real pain to get
    it back to the owner. First, he had nothing identifying who owned it,
    i.e. no "Home" entry in the phone book. Second, it was a T-Mobile phone,
    so when I took it home I couldn't make any calls, and had to go to a
    place with T-Mobile coverage. I called a random entry in the contact
    list and explained what had happened, and the person contacted the
    owner. I forgot to tell them to have the owner call me on my own phone,
    not the found phone, so I couldn't receive a call from the owner at
    home, but luckily he called me while I was out somewhere else.

    It would have never occurred to me to try to sell it on eBay. If I
    couldn't find the owner then I would have returned it to one of the
    carrier's stores so they could contact the owner some other way.



  5. #5
    Phillip Devoll
    Guest

    Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen


    "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Bill Kearney wrote:
    >>> Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
    >>> eBay, then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer,
    >>> and learned.....

    >>
    >> Gee, you'll take the time to setup an ebay auction, but not to just drop
    >> it off to a local phone store? How civic minded of you... not.
    >>
    >> I've dropped off several phones I've found over the years. One wasn't
    >> from that provider, but they looked whose it was, so I walked over to
    >> that store instead. No reward, no thanks, just a clear conscience.

    >
    > I found a cell phone in the street once, and it was a real pain to get it
    > back to the owner. First, he had nothing identifying who owned it, i.e. no
    > "Home" entry in the phone book. Second, it was a T-Mobile phone, so when I
    > took it home I couldn't make any calls, and had to go to a place with
    > T-Mobile coverage. I called a random entry in the contact list and
    > explained what had happened, and the person contacted the owner. I forgot
    > to tell them to have the owner call me on my own phone, not the found
    > phone, so I couldn't receive a call from the owner at home, but luckily he
    > called me while I was out somewhere else.
    >
    > It would have never occurred to me to try to sell it on eBay. If I
    > couldn't find the owner then I would have returned it to one of the
    > carrier's stores so they could contact the owner some other way.


    My brother lost his phone and befroe he even realize it our siser called him
    and said some called him from his personal cell and he was able to call the
    person and the meet the next day and he got it back....




  6. #6
    Robert Coe
    Guest

    Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen

    On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:25:07 GMT, "Phillip Devoll" <[email protected]> wrote:
    :
    : "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    : news:[email protected]
    : > Bill Kearney wrote:
    : >>> Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
    : >>> eBay, then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer,
    : >>> and learned.....
    : >>
    : >> Gee, you'll take the time to setup an ebay auction, but not to just drop
    : >> it off to a local phone store? How civic minded of you... not.
    : >>
    : >> I've dropped off several phones I've found over the years. One wasn't
    : >> from that provider, but they looked whose it was, so I walked over to
    : >> that store instead. No reward, no thanks, just a clear conscience.
    : >
    : > I found a cell phone in the street once, and it was a real pain to get it
    : > back to the owner. First, he had nothing identifying who owned it, i.e. no
    : > "Home" entry in the phone book. Second, it was a T-Mobile phone, so when I
    : > took it home I couldn't make any calls, and had to go to a place with
    : > T-Mobile coverage. I called a random entry in the contact list and
    : > explained what had happened, and the person contacted the owner. I forgot
    : > to tell them to have the owner call me on my own phone, not the found
    : > phone, so I couldn't receive a call from the owner at home, but luckily he
    : > called me while I was out somewhere else.
    : >
    : > It would have never occurred to me to try to sell it on eBay. If I
    : > couldn't find the owner then I would have returned it to one of the
    : > carrier's stores so they could contact the owner some other way.
    :
    : My brother lost his phone and before he even realize it our sister called him
    : and said some called him from his personal cell and he was able to call the
    : person and the meet the next day and he got it back....

    A couple of years ago I was at my daughter's house in Philadelphia, when a
    call came in from her cell phone to mine. "Why is she calling me from
    downstairs?" thought I. But the caller was a stranger, who had found my
    daughter's handbag in a park across the street from an ice cream stand where
    we had taken her kids the night before. (It had fallen off of her son's
    stroller in the dark, and she hadn't noticed that it was missing.) The finder
    turned out to be an employee of the ice cream stand, whose owner was a friend
    of my daughter and her husband. The finder didn't know my daughter or about
    the connection to his employer. But altogether unwittingly, he had given his
    employer an unsolicited demonstration of his honesty.

    Additional odd factoid: I had taken some flash pictures of my daughter's kids
    in the park. When I was editing them a couple of days later, I discovered that
    one of them showed the handbag lying on the ground.

    Bob



  7. #7
    D
    Guest

    Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen

    Most stores can find the "owner" by the esn.

    If lost/stolen "blacklisted" the owner who reported it can have it
    taken off that list.

    Please, please, please be careful if someone contacts you that they
    have your phone. people have stolen phones, contacted the owners and
    mugged them when they showed up to claim them.


    On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:21:49 -0500, Robert Coe <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:25:07 GMT, "Phillip Devoll" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >:
    >: "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >: news:[email protected]
    >: > Bill Kearney wrote:
    >: >>> Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
    >: >>> eBay, then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer,
    >: >>> and learned.....
    >: >>
    >: >> Gee, you'll take the time to setup an ebay auction, but not to just drop
    >: >> it off to a local phone store? How civic minded of you... not.
    >: >>
    >: >> I've dropped off several phones I've found over the years. One wasn't
    >: >> from that provider, but they looked whose it was, so I walked over to
    >: >> that store instead. No reward, no thanks, just a clear conscience.
    >: >
    >: > I found a cell phone in the street once, and it was a real pain to get it
    >: > back to the owner. First, he had nothing identifying who owned it, i.e. no
    >: > "Home" entry in the phone book. Second, it was a T-Mobile phone, so when I
    >: > took it home I couldn't make any calls, and had to go to a place with
    >: > T-Mobile coverage. I called a random entry in the contact list and
    >: > explained what had happened, and the person contacted the owner. I forgot
    >: > to tell them to have the owner call me on my own phone, not the found
    >: > phone, so I couldn't receive a call from the owner at home, but luckily he
    >: > called me while I was out somewhere else.
    >: >
    >: > It would have never occurred to me to try to sell it on eBay. If I
    >: > couldn't find the owner then I would have returned it to one of the
    >: > carrier's stores so they could contact the owner some other way.
    >:
    >: My brother lost his phone and before he even realize it our sister called him
    >: and said some called him from his personal cell and he was able to call the
    >: person and the meet the next day and he got it back....
    >
    >A couple of years ago I was at my daughter's house in Philadelphia, when a
    >call came in from her cell phone to mine. "Why is she calling me from
    >downstairs?" thought I. But the caller was a stranger, who had found my
    >daughter's handbag in a park across the street from an ice cream stand where
    >we had taken her kids the night before. (It had fallen off of her son's
    >stroller in the dark, and she hadn't noticed that it was missing.) The finder
    >turned out to be an employee of the ice cream stand, whose owner was a friend
    >of my daughter and her husband. The finder didn't know my daughter or about
    >the connection to his employer. But altogether unwittingly, he had given his
    >employer an unsolicited demonstration of his honesty.
    >
    >Additional odd factoid: I had taken some flash pictures of my daughter's kids
    >in the park. When I was editing them a couple of days later, I discovered that
    >one of them showed the handbag lying on the ground.
    >
    >Bob





  8. #8
    D
    Guest

    Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen

    On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:33:57 -0400, -= Hawk =-
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:14:58 GMT, D <[email protected]> scribbled:
    >
    >>Most stores can find the "owner" by the esn.
    >>
    >>If lost/stolen "blacklisted" the owner who reported it can have it
    >>taken off that list.
    >>
    >>Please, please, please be careful if someone contacts you that they
    >>have your phone. people have stolen phones, contacted the owners and
    >>mugged them when they showed up to claim them.

    >
    >And the cashier at the grocery store could follow you home and cook you
    >up for dinner. Your neighbor could go bug**** and stick a claw hammer in
    >your forehead. An engine could fall off a jumbo jet, crash through your
    >roof and....
    >
    >Check into the asylum if you're THAT paranoid.


    Yes, any of that COULD happen. Notice I didn't say anything WILL
    happen, only that in today's world, it is worth it not to walk alone
    down dark alleys if you can avoid it.



  9. #9
    Richard B. Gilbert
    Guest

    Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen

    -= Hawk =- wrote:
    > On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:14:58 GMT, D <[email protected]> scribbled:
    >
    >
    >>Most stores can find the "owner" by the esn.
    >>
    >>If lost/stolen "blacklisted" the owner who reported it can have it
    >>taken off that list.
    >>
    >>Please, please, please be careful if someone contacts you that they
    >>have your phone. people have stolen phones, contacted the owners and
    >>mugged them when they showed up to claim them.

    >
    >
    > And the cashier at the grocery store could follow you home and cook you
    > up for dinner. Your neighbor could go bug**** and stick a claw hammer in
    > your forehead. An engine could fall off a jumbo jet, crash through your
    > roof and....
    >
    > Check into the asylum if you're THAT paranoid.
    >


    Even paranoids have enemies!




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