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  1. #1
    Roger 2008
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    Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.

    I found out Verizon's Touch does not have Bluetooth PAN and it does not
    allow you to assign a comport to a Bluetooth GPS.

    The Bluetooth PAN is neat if you have a laptop with Bluetooth and want to
    use "Phone as Modem" without a cable.

    The "assign a comport to a Bluetooth GPS" is neat if you buy a Bluetooth GPS
    and want to use it to see satellite views of where you are at.

    The guy in the Verizon add. The reason I keep asking you "If you can hear
    me now" is because I don't want to hear you complain about all the bluetooth
    functionality we have removed from our phones.





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  2. #2
    Roger 2008
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    Re: Sprint's Touch vs Verizon's Touch


    "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.
    >
    > I found out Verizon's Touch does not have Bluetooth PAN and it does not
    > allow you to assign a comport to a Bluetooth GPS.
    >
    > The Bluetooth PAN is neat if you have a laptop with Bluetooth and want to
    > use "Phone as Modem" without a cable.
    >
    > The "assign a comport to a Bluetooth GPS" is neat if you buy a Bluetooth

    GPS
    > and want to use it to see satellite views of where you are at.
    >
    > The guy in the Verizon add. The reason I keep asking you "If you can hear
    > me now" is because I don't want to hear you complain about all the

    bluetooth
    > functionality we have removed from our phones.


    To make double sure on the part about the BT GPS I took mine down there and
    asked if I could try something.

    To make a long story short, it looks like the only thing the Verizon "Touch"
    is missing is the BT PAN. Verizon does not use "Internet Sharing" they use
    "Modem Link" and you have to link with a cable. Screw that.





  3. #3
    Roger 2008
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    Re: Sprint's Touch vs Verizon's Touch


    "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.


    Besides Verizon striping their "Touch" of "Bluetooth PAN" and putting a 5G
    cap on their data network I found something else today.

    Verizon lowered the price of the "Data Plan" to *try* and match Sprint and
    they added some rules to follow at the same time.
    http://www.xv6900.com/Verizon-Drops-Data-Plan-Pricing

    "Verizon Lowers Data Plan Pricing"

    With the release of the XV6900 just a few short days away, Verizon Wireless
    has announced that it has lowered pricing for the unlimited data plan from
    $45.00/month to $29.99/month. This puts pricing for high speed data network
    access on par with Sprint and AT&T.

    The $29.99/month plan does not support Exchange, which should primarily
    impact enterprise users. The new data plan will provide unlimited access to
    the web and up to 10 personal e-mail accounts, including free Internet email
    providers such as Windows Live, AOL and Yahoo.

    The $29.99 data plan is only available with qualifying voice plans. This new
    data plan is currently available on the Verizon Wireless SMT5800; the
    Verizon Wireless XV6800 and the MOTO Q9m.

    ========== My comments below ==========

    Verizon should have dropped the price to $24.99 to match Sprint. More on
    that later.

    Verizon should let their users have "Bluetooth PAN" to match Sprint.

    Verizon should remove their 5G cap on their data network to match Sprint.

    Now why the $24.99 instead of the $29.99 mentioned above? When I added
    "Unlimited data" to my Mogul it was for $39.xx a month but I was allowed to
    drop the Vision service shortly after that meaning I'm only paying $25 a
    month more for unlimited data.





  4. #4
    Roger 2008
    Guest

    Re: Sprint's Touch vs Verizon's Touch


    "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.

    >
    > Besides Verizon striping their "Touch" of "Bluetooth PAN" and putting a 5G
    > cap on their data network I found something else today.
    >
    > Verizon lowered the price of the "Data Plan" to *try* and match Sprint and
    > they added some rules to follow at the same time.
    > http://www.xv6900.com/Verizon-Drops-Data-Plan-Pricing
    >
    > "Verizon Lowers Data Plan Pricing"
    >
    > With the release of the XV6900 just a few short days away, Verizon

    Wireless
    > has announced that it has lowered pricing for the unlimited data plan from
    > $45.00/month to $29.99/month. This puts pricing for high speed data

    network
    > access on par with Sprint and AT&T.
    >
    > The $29.99/month plan does not support Exchange, which should primarily
    > impact enterprise users. The new data plan will provide unlimited access

    to
    > the web and up to 10 personal e-mail accounts, including free Internet

    email
    > providers such as Windows Live, AOL and Yahoo.
    >
    > The $29.99 data plan is only available with qualifying voice plans. This

    new
    > data plan is currently available on the Verizon Wireless SMT5800; the
    > Verizon Wireless XV6800 and the MOTO Q9m.
    >
    > ========== My comments below ==========
    >
    > Verizon should have dropped the price to $24.99 to match Sprint. More on
    > that later.
    >
    > Verizon should let their users have "Bluetooth PAN" to match Sprint.
    >
    > Verizon should remove their 5G cap on their data network to match Sprint.
    >
    > Now why the $24.99 instead of the $29.99 mentioned above? When I added
    > "Unlimited data" to my Mogul it was for $39.xx a month but I was allowed

    to
    > drop the Vision service shortly after that meaning I'm only paying $25 a
    > month more for unlimited data.


    After some double checking I found out the $29.99 is for unlimited data to
    the phone itself. If you want to use your phone for broadband access to a
    laptop with a 5G cap then you add another $59.99.

    That means I'd be paying $50 more a month if I were on Verizon and I
    wouldn't even have Bluetooth PAN with a Verizon phone.

    Not only would I *not* have Bluetooth PAN but I'd have to use a program that
    you download from http://vzam.net if I wanted intenet on my laptop.

    No thanks.








  5. #5
    William H. Bowen
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    Re: Sprint's Touch vs Verizon's Touch

    "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >>
    >> "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >> > Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.

    >>
    >> Besides Verizon striping their "Touch" of "Bluetooth PAN" and putting a 5G
    >> cap on their data network I found something else today.
    >>
    >> Verizon lowered the price of the "Data Plan" to *try* and match Sprint and
    >> they added some rules to follow at the same time.
    >> http://www.xv6900.com/Verizon-Drops-Data-Plan-Pricing
    >>
    >> "Verizon Lowers Data Plan Pricing"
    >>
    >> With the release of the XV6900 just a few short days away, Verizon

    >Wireless
    >> has announced that it has lowered pricing for the unlimited data plan from
    >> $45.00/month to $29.99/month. This puts pricing for high speed data

    >network
    >> access on par with Sprint and AT&T.
    >>
    >> The $29.99/month plan does not support Exchange, which should primarily
    >> impact enterprise users. The new data plan will provide unlimited access

    >to
    >> the web and up to 10 personal e-mail accounts, including free Internet

    >email
    >> providers such as Windows Live, AOL and Yahoo.
    >>
    >> The $29.99 data plan is only available with qualifying voice plans. This

    >new
    >> data plan is currently available on the Verizon Wireless SMT5800; the
    >> Verizon Wireless XV6800 and the MOTO Q9m.
    >>
    >> ========== My comments below ==========
    >>
    >> Verizon should have dropped the price to $24.99 to match Sprint. More on
    >> that later.
    >>
    >> Verizon should let their users have "Bluetooth PAN" to match Sprint.
    >>
    >> Verizon should remove their 5G cap on their data network to match Sprint.
    >>
    >> Now why the $24.99 instead of the $29.99 mentioned above? When I added
    >> "Unlimited data" to my Mogul it was for $39.xx a month but I was allowed

    >to
    >> drop the Vision service shortly after that meaning I'm only paying $25 a
    >> month more for unlimited data.

    >
    >After some double checking I found out the $29.99 is for unlimited data to
    >the phone itself. If you want to use your phone for broadband access to a
    >laptop with a 5G cap then you add another $59.99.
    >
    >That means I'd be paying $50 more a month if I were on Verizon and I
    >wouldn't even have Bluetooth PAN with a Verizon phone.
    >
    >Not only would I *not* have Bluetooth PAN but I'd have to use a program that
    >you download from http://vzam.net if I wanted intenet on my laptop.
    >
    >No thanks.


    Roger,

    I agree. One of the reasons I stay with Sprint is because of their
    data plans. On my Palm 755P, same as your Mogul, unlimited data to the
    phone & PAM is $39.95 AND no cap. For what Verizon is charging on
    Sprint you could have Vision on your phone AND a pay for data service
    on an AirCard.

    BTW, Palms have the same issue with PAM on any carrier. They do not
    appear to the PC as a network card like an AirCard or a Novatel does.
    You have to install Sprint Connection Manager to get any better than
    dial-up transfer speeds (the basic Palm software installs a 755 as a
    modem, so you CAN use DUN, but as I said, DUN has speed limitations)
    which makes it a pain to use the Palm on a foreign machine. On the
    other hand, you have to install drivers for an AirCard, so I guess
    that is not that big of an issue.

    One other sidebar - if you do use Sprint Connection Manager, DO NOT
    try and do an upgrade on a new version!! I've tried it twice and ended
    up with an unworkable mess. Better to uninstall the old version and
    then install the new one. I wish that Sprint would get another vendor
    to do their CM software - their present one is kinda lame.

    Regards,
    Bill Bowen
    Sacramento, CA



  6. #6
    Roger 2008
    Guest

    Re: Sprint's Touch vs Verizon's Touch


    "William H. Bowen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]
    > >>
    > >> "Roger 2008" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >> news:[email protected]
    > >> > Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.
    > >>
    > >> Besides Verizon striping their "Touch" of "Bluetooth PAN" and putting a

    5G
    > >> cap on their data network I found something else today.
    > >>
    > >> Verizon lowered the price of the "Data Plan" to *try* and match Sprint

    and
    > >> they added some rules to follow at the same time.
    > >> http://www.xv6900.com/Verizon-Drops-Data-Plan-Pricing
    > >>
    > >> "Verizon Lowers Data Plan Pricing"
    > >>
    > >> With the release of the XV6900 just a few short days away, Verizon

    > >Wireless
    > >> has announced that it has lowered pricing for the unlimited data plan

    from
    > >> $45.00/month to $29.99/month. This puts pricing for high speed data

    > >network
    > >> access on par with Sprint and AT&T.
    > >>
    > >> The $29.99/month plan does not support Exchange, which should primarily
    > >> impact enterprise users. The new data plan will provide unlimited

    access
    > >to
    > >> the web and up to 10 personal e-mail accounts, including free Internet

    > >email
    > >> providers such as Windows Live, AOL and Yahoo.
    > >>
    > >> The $29.99 data plan is only available with qualifying voice plans.

    This
    > >new
    > >> data plan is currently available on the Verizon Wireless SMT5800; the
    > >> Verizon Wireless XV6800 and the MOTO Q9m.
    > >>
    > >> ========== My comments below ==========
    > >>
    > >> Verizon should have dropped the price to $24.99 to match Sprint. More

    on
    > >> that later.
    > >>
    > >> Verizon should let their users have "Bluetooth PAN" to match Sprint.
    > >>
    > >> Verizon should remove their 5G cap on their data network to match

    Sprint.
    > >>
    > >> Now why the $24.99 instead of the $29.99 mentioned above? When I added
    > >> "Unlimited data" to my Mogul it was for $39.xx a month but I was

    allowed
    > >to
    > >> drop the Vision service shortly after that meaning I'm only paying $25

    a
    > >> month more for unlimited data.

    > >
    > >After some double checking I found out the $29.99 is for unlimited data

    to
    > >the phone itself. If you want to use your phone for broadband access to

    a
    > >laptop with a 5G cap then you add another $59.99.
    > >
    > >That means I'd be paying $50 more a month if I were on Verizon and I
    > >wouldn't even have Bluetooth PAN with a Verizon phone.
    > >
    > >Not only would I *not* have Bluetooth PAN but I'd have to use a program

    that
    > >you download from http://vzam.net if I wanted intenet on my laptop.
    > >
    > >No thanks.

    >
    > Roger,
    >
    > I agree. One of the reasons I stay with Sprint is because of their
    > data plans. On my Palm 755P, same as your Mogul, unlimited data to the
    > phone & PAM is $39.95 AND no cap. For what Verizon is charging on
    > Sprint you could have Vision on your phone AND a pay for data service
    > on an AirCard.
    >
    > BTW, Palms have the same issue with PAM on any carrier. They do not
    > appear to the PC as a network card like an AirCard or a Novatel does.
    > You have to install Sprint Connection Manager to get any better than
    > dial-up transfer speeds (the basic Palm software installs a 755 as a
    > modem, so you CAN use DUN, but as I said, DUN has speed limitations)
    > which makes it a pain to use the Palm on a foreign machine. On the
    > other hand, you have to install drivers for an AirCard, so I guess
    > that is not that big of an issue.
    >
    > One other sidebar - if you do use Sprint Connection Manager, DO NOT
    > try and do an upgrade on a new version!! I've tried it twice and ended
    > up with an unworkable mess. Better to uninstall the old version and
    > then install the new one. I wish that Sprint would get another vendor
    > to do their CM software - their present one is kinda lame.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Bill Bowen
    > Sacramento, CA


    Thanks for the info and now that you mention it, I remember I had to use
    connection software with a phone I had years ago and an air card I had last
    year.

    BTW I just heard some bad news today. Sprint is going to be like AT&T and
    Verizon with a 5G cap.

    http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/0...d-data-at-5gb/





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