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  1. #16
    The Bob
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    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access

    Ernie & Eythl <ernie&[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    following in news:[email protected]:

    > Elmo P. Shagnasty answered:
    >> In article <[email protected]>,
    >> "Pat Cook" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> We usually
    >>> hang out on Yahoo! Groups and message boards, which aren't allowed
    >>> to run rampant in a negative manner like some USENET groups are
    >>> because they're moderated forums.

    >>
    >> Ummmm.....check that moderation.
    >>
    >> Usually it's overly moderated. In other words, most boards are run
    >> by idiots with a power complex.

    >
    > But thats a GOOD thing. It keeps the trolls and assholes OUT!
    >


    Trolls? Maybe.

    Assholes? No- it just creates more.



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  2. #17
    Roger 2008
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    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access


    "The Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Ernie & Eythl <ernie&[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    > following in news:[email protected]:
    >
    > > Elmo P. Shagnasty answered:
    > >> In article <[email protected]>,
    > >> "Pat Cook" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> We usually
    > >>> hang out on Yahoo! Groups and message boards, which aren't allowed
    > >>> to run rampant in a negative manner like some USENET groups are
    > >>> because they're moderated forums.
    > >>
    > >> Ummmm.....check that moderation.
    > >>
    > >> Usually it's overly moderated. In other words, most boards are run
    > >> by idiots with a power complex.

    > >
    > > But thats a GOOD thing. It keeps the trolls and assholes OUT!
    > >

    >
    > Trolls? Maybe.
    >
    > Assholes? No- it just creates more.


    You got that right because I've seen it happen myself.

    Basically, once the assholes on a moderated group jump to the wrong
    conclusions there is nothing at all you can do about their **** because the
    moderator won't let you do anything.





  3. #18
    anthonyx26
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    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Pat Cook" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> We usually
    >> hang out on Yahoo! Groups and message boards, which aren't allowed to run
    >> rampant in a negative manner like some USENET groups are because they're
    >> moderated forums.

    >
    > Ummmm.....check that moderation.
    >
    > Usually it's overly moderated. In other words, most boards are run by
    > idiots with a power complex.


    Hmmm...my biggest problem with moderators isn't so much that they clean out
    spam, it's that they feel the need to "move" threads to different forums
    (extremely annoying). OK...so what if it's slightly OT!!! A better option
    would be perhaps to _copy_ the thread to another forum (much like many users
    do here...replying to the original plus crossposting to another newsgroup).

    - anthonyx26




  4. #19
    anthonyx26
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    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access

    "Pat Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hi everyone:
    >
    > "anthonyx26" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> I just received an email from Comcast announcing their end of newsgroup
    >> access (offering only a promotional deal through "giganews" as a parting
    >> gift).
    >>
    >> Email from Comcast...

    >
    > [snip.....]
    >
    > What does this have to SPRINT PCS????
    >
    > Am I missing something here?


    Hahahaaha...gonna ban me? ;-)

    If you read further down in the email, I had proposed an alternate forum at
    www.sprintusers.com. While it is a bit annoying with the ads, the actual
    user forum content is high quality. Though, I'd be happy to entertain other
    venues.

    - anthonyx26




  5. #20
    rabbits77
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    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access

    > While I don't like the commerical "fluff" advertisements that many web
    > based forums have it can be tolerated as long as the volume of
    > user--to-user communication is high and is of high quality.

    That is part of why UseNet lost its appeal in the early 00s. After the
    big tech bust people
    realized that it was essentially impossible to "monetize" NNTP. The
    tricks "they" came up with such as web based readers that could show
    advertising or just spam bombing 50,000 groups at a time were such an
    abomination that it killed a lot of the traditional spirit of UseNet.
    Google groups and various spam fixes have helped in the long run. Many
    groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users
    who are able to conversate in a civil manner.




  6. #21
    rabbits77
    Guest

    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access

    DTC wrote:
    > anthonyx26 wrote:
    >> Hmmm...my biggest problem with moderators isn't so much that they
    >> clean out spam, it's that they feel the need to "move" threads to
    >> different forums (extremely annoying).

    >
    > Reminds me of a post I made in some NG and used a "naughty" word
    > commonly heard on TV, well...late night TV movies.
    >
    > Moderator deleted my post saying it was a family accessible NG.
    > I replied that kids that read NG are at least in third grade, and
    > mostly likely have already heard, if not used that word.

    That is the sad reality...most moderators are self-selected zealots
    and control freaks. That one sounds like the sort of controlling X-ian
    asswipe
    that needs to be chained and dragged behind a pickup truck.



  7. #22
    anthonyx26
    Guest

    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access..."conversate"

    "rabbits77" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >> While I don't like the commerical "fluff" advertisements that many web
    >> based forums have it can be tolerated as long as the volume of
    >> user--to-user communication is high and is of high quality.

    > Google groups and various spam fixes have helped in the long run. Many
    > groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users
    > who are able to conversate in a civil manner.


    Whoa..."conversate"...now there's a controversial word! Of course, the
    controversy questioning whether it is indeed a word at all.

    IMHO, it wreaks of one trying to make him/herself look smarter by making up
    some obscure-sounding word...and because no one really knows whether it's an
    actual accepted English word, no one calls the person out on it, they just
    let it slide. NOTE: From the rest of your verbiage, this doesn't sound
    like what you were doing. :-)

    - anthonyx26




  8. #23
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access

    At 10 Oct 2008 17:57:40 -0400 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

    > > Many
    > > groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users
    > > who are able to conversate in a civil manner.

    >
    > dude....it's "converse". Not "conversate".
    >
    > People are morons.



    And yet you still conversate with us... ;-)





  9. #24
    Bob Wang
    Guest

    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access

    Deprecate instead of conversate ;-)

    >>>

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    In article <[email protected]>, rabbits77 <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Many
    > groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users
    > who are able to conversate in a civil manner.


    dude....it's "converse". Not "conversate".

    People are morons.




  10. #25
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access

    "conversate"? Are you a relative of GWB? hihi



  11. #26
    Yura
    Guest

    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access

    rabbits77 answered:

    > That is the sad reality...most moderators are self-selected zealots
    > and control freaks. That one sounds like the sort of controlling X-ian
    > asswipe
    > that needs to be chained and dragged behind a pickup truck.


    And YOU sound JUST like the trolls that get kicked off sites like that.
    GOOD RIDANCE you piece of ****. NO ONE wants people like you on them to
    begin with. **** OFF. HAHA



  12. #27
    rabbits77
    Guest

    Re: Comcast dumping newsgroup access..."conversate"

    anthonyx26 wrote:
    > "rabbits77" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>> While I don't like the commerical "fluff" advertisements that many
    >>> web based forums have it can be tolerated as long as the volume of
    >>> user--to-user communication is high and is of high quality.

    >> Google groups and various spam fixes have helped in the long run. Many
    >> groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users
    >> who are able to conversate in a civil manner.

    >
    > Whoa..."conversate"...now there's a controversial word! Of course, the
    > controversy questioning whether it is indeed a word at all.
    >
    > IMHO, it wreaks of one trying to make him/herself look smarter by making
    > up some obscure-sounding word...and because no one really knows whether
    > it's an actual accepted English word, no one calls the person out on it,
    > they just let it slide. NOTE: From the rest of your verbiage, this
    > doesn't sound like what you were doing. :-)

    "conversate" is a perfectly fine and acceptable *slang* word.
    I feel comfortable using it in a technical news group. Maybe not so much
    in a group devoted to english literature, perhaps.
    Perhaps the several people that enjoy correcting grammar here can use
    those energies someplace where that sort of thing is more appreciated.



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