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- 12-15-2008, 09:37 AM #1StephGuest
I have had my Treo 700p for a couple of years.
It was flashed with the 755 ROMs awhile back giving it a bit more life
and responiveness.
As many are doing, we are looking at entering a new contract, and that of
course is the opportunity for a new handset.
My contenders are:
Treo 755p - Palm OS
Treo 800w - Windows Mobile
Blackberry Curve
I welcome any feedback on the above phones.
The Palm OS has been good to me for many years, and I really enjoy the
ability to keep all those items (notes, memos, addressbook, etc.) at hand
and easily up to date. Additionally, I am a moderate SMS person - mostly
for alerts from work and basic texting to friends/family.
The Palm OS platform has also been great for adding applications to the
phone - whether productivity or games for the kids.
I do a lot of Microsoft administration, so I am leaning a bit towards the
800w (and the wi-fi is a nice option). This would also work with our
sharepoint site via the pocket/mobile IE. But everyone seems to love
their Blackberries.
For my SO, I am pushing the RANT - key for texting and a bit of web
surfing.
Thoughts or nudges in one direction or another?
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- 12-15-2008, 03:22 PM #2Joel KoltnerGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
"Steph" <[email protected]_CUT> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My contenders are:
> Treo 755p - Palm OS
> Treo 800w - Windows Mobile
> Blackberry Curve
I'm only familiar with the Treos up there, but of those two these days I'd be
tempted to get the 800w. You'll find that the software isn't as nicely all
tied together as the 755p, but there are many more applications available for
Windows Mobile than the Palm OS these days, and (perhaps unfortunately, as the
Palm OS certainly is solid) the difference becomes larger daily.
Might I ask why you ruled out something like the HTC Touch Pro (WinMo), with
its 640x480 screen?
---Joel
- 12-15-2008, 04:12 PM #3StephGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
"Joel Koltner" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "Steph" <[email protected]_CUT> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> My contenders are:
>> Treo 755p - Palm OS
>> Treo 800w - Windows Mobile
>> Blackberry Curve
>
> I'm only familiar with the Treos up there, but of those two these days
> I'd be tempted to get the 800w. You'll find that the software isn't
> as nicely all tied together as the 755p, but there are many more
> applications available for Windows Mobile than the Palm OS these days,
> and (perhaps unfortunately, as the Palm OS certainly is solid) the
> difference becomes larger daily.
>
> Might I ask why you ruled out something like the HTC Touch Pro
> (WinMo), with its 640x480 screen?
>
> ---Joel
I wasn't thrilled with it, plus I know that Palm Os, MS Mobile, and
Blackberry will all synch up with MS Outlook. The addition of 3rd party
apps and the ability to do various auth to web pages is pretty important
(the web browser being the largest detractor of staying with a Palm OS).
- 12-16-2008, 10:23 AM #4Todd AllcockGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
"Russ in San Diego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What's the deal with the data plan for the windows platform? I know
> that for the Palm platform, they charge $10 or $15 for all you can
> eat. I thought that for the Windows platform "smart" phones, they
> charge somewhat more. You might want to check it out.
Last time I checked, it was $15 for any smartphone, as long as you don't use
the phone as a modem for external devices.
- 12-16-2008, 10:30 AM #5Todd AllcockGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
"Steph" <[email protected]_CUT> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> I'm only familiar with the Treos up there, but of those two these days
>> I'd be tempted to get the 800w. You'll find that the software isn't
>> as nicely all tied together as the 755p, but there are many more
>> applications available for Windows Mobile than the Palm OS these days,
>> and (perhaps unfortunately, as the Palm OS certainly is solid) the
>> difference becomes larger daily.
>>
>> Might I ask why you ruled out something like the HTC Touch Pro
>> (WinMo), with its 640x480 screen?
>>
>> ---Joel
>
> I wasn't thrilled with it, plus I know that Palm Os, MS Mobile, and
> Blackberry will all synch up with MS Outlook.
Wile it seems you prefer the Treo/Blackberry form factor (keyboard on front
below the display), it isn't clear from what you typed that you realize the
Touch Pro is also a Windows Mobile device like the Treo 800w, and therefore
will sync with Outlook, just like the 800. It, like the less powerful and
lower-res Windows Mobile-based Mogul (6800), has a slide-out keyboard and
larger display than the 800w.
Having said that, the 800w is a perfectly fine little phone, but I
personally prefer larger displays, even if it sacrifices the keyboard
altogether. Slide-out keyboards, IMO, are a nice compromise.
The addition of 3rd party
> apps and the ability to do various auth to web pages is pretty important
> (the web browser being the largest detractor of staying with a Palm OS).
>
- 12-16-2008, 12:23 PM #6StephGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:%[email protected]:
>
> "Russ in San Diego" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:304cb706-6194-4fc7-9dae-4df6e001fc76@b41g2000pra.googlegroups.com.
> ..
>> What's the deal with the data plan for the windows platform? I know
>> that for the Palm platform, they charge $10 or $15 for all you can
>> eat. I thought that for the Windows platform "smart" phones, they
>> charge somewhat more. You might want to check it out.
>
> Last time I checked, it was $15 for any smartphone, as long as you
> don't use the phone as a modem for external devices.
>
I currently pay $40 for PAM - but it is $15 for any phone unlimited data
-- except the blackberry, those are $30 each. What I was told Sunday at
least.
- 12-16-2008, 12:28 PM #7StephGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
Oh great... that mean sI am now comparing FOUR phones.
seriously, though thank you for pointing that out. If i can get some
subsidy for the handset purchase (work) maybe I will look more closely at
the Touch Pro. Does the Touch Pro offer wi-fi as well?
Honestly my biggest issue has been finding time to get a true Sprint
store with functioning handsets to try them out. Sunday was my first time
in many months.
It still comes down to deciding to go with Palm OS, Windows Mobile, or
Blackberry.
As for plans, I have a 700 minute family share plan. I am loking at the
Family text plan (1500 minute version). The Family data looked good - but
it is $20 per additional line versus $10 and not everyone needs unlimited
data (I have 5 lines plus a sixth on the pioneer plan).
"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Steph" <[email protected]_CUT> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>> I'm only familiar with the Treos up there, but of those two these
>>> days I'd be tempted to get the 800w. You'll find that the software
>>> isn't as nicely all tied together as the 755p, but there are many
>>> more applications available for Windows Mobile than the Palm OS
>>> these days, and (perhaps unfortunately, as the Palm OS certainly is
>>> solid) the difference becomes larger daily.
>>>
>>> Might I ask why you ruled out something like the HTC Touch Pro
>>> (WinMo), with its 640x480 screen?
>>>
>>> ---Joel
>>
>> I wasn't thrilled with it, plus I know that Palm Os, MS Mobile, and
>> Blackberry will all synch up with MS Outlook.
>
> Wile it seems you prefer the Treo/Blackberry form factor (keyboard on
> front below the display), it isn't clear from what you typed that you
> realize the Touch Pro is also a Windows Mobile device like the Treo
> 800w, and therefore will sync with Outlook, just like the 800. It,
> like the less powerful and lower-res Windows Mobile-based Mogul
> (6800), has a slide-out keyboard and larger display than the 800w.
>
> Having said that, the 800w is a perfectly fine little phone, but I
> personally prefer larger displays, even if it sacrifices the keyboard
> altogether. Slide-out keyboards, IMO, are a nice compromise.
>
>
> The addition of 3rd party
>> apps and the ability to do various auth to web pages is pretty
>> important (the web browser being the largest detractor of staying
>> with a Palm OS).
>>
>
>
- 12-17-2008, 10:45 AM #8Todd AllcockGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
At 16 Dec 2008 18:28:20 +0000 Steph wrote:
> Oh great... that mean sI am now comparing FOUR phones.
Choice is good! ;-)
> seriously, though thank you for pointing that out. If i can get some
> subsidy for the handset purchase (work) maybe I will look more closely at
> the Touch Pro. Does the Touch Pro offer wi-fi as well?
Yes it does.
> Honestly my biggest issue has been finding time to get a true Sprint
> store with functioning handsets to try them out. Sunday was my first time
> in many months.
>
> It still comes down to deciding to go with Palm OS, Windows Mobile, or
> Blackberry.
I'm a WinMo guy, personally, since I've been using it for ten years. It's
hard to switch when you're very comfortable with a platform.
For syncing with Outlook, and basic smartphone functions, they all get the
job done, but the Touch Pro's VGA screen will certainly make media viewing
more pleasant, and web browsing less painful! ;-)
- 12-17-2008, 11:10 AM #9Joel KoltnerGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
"Steph" <[email protected]_CUT> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does the Touch Pro offer wi-fi as well?
Yes it does. Also Bluetooth, reasonable decent camera, a micro-SD card if you
ever run of of internal memory, tilt sensors that automatically rotate the
screen when you shift the phone's position, and a "touch interface" that's of
questionable utility, but some people really seem to like it.
By default the Touch Pro runs Opera as the web browser, although Internet
Explorer is available as well. (Opera has much better facilities for
panning/scrolling/tabs/etc. than IE...)
The e-mail client supports the usual POP3/IMAP servers and can be set to poll
at whatever interval you want. There's built-in support for push-based e-mail
from an Exchange server, and you can get push support for Gmail/Yahoo/MSN/etc.
from seven.com for free. (Sprint includes Seven's software in some of their
phones, I'm not sure why they didn't on the Touch Pro.)
---Joel
- 12-22-2008, 02:26 PM #10StephGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> At 16 Dec 2008 18:28:20 +0000 Steph wrote:
>> Oh great... that mean sI am now comparing FOUR phones.
>
> Choice is good! ;-)
>
>
>> seriously, though thank you for pointing that out. If i can get some
>> subsidy for the handset purchase (work) maybe I will look more
>> closely at the Touch Pro. Does the Touch Pro offer wi-fi as well?
>
>
> Yes it does.
>
>> Honestly my biggest issue has been finding time to get a true Sprint
>> store with functioning handsets to try them out. Sunday was my first
>> time in many months.
>>
>> It still comes down to deciding to go with Palm OS, Windows Mobile,
>> or Blackberry.
>
>
> I'm a WinMo guy, personally, since I've been using it for ten years.
> It's hard to switch when you're very comfortable with a platform.
>
> For syncing with Outlook, and basic smartphone functions, they all get
> the job done, but the Touch Pro's VGA screen will certainly make media
> viewing more pleasant, and web browsing less painful! ;-)
>
Do you have the HTC Touch Pro?
I have heard it is grossly underpowered CPU wise.
Even my Palm OS based Treo can handle SMS, playing audio, using BT
headset and running my MobileXT app simutanesouly. Sure it stutters once
in awhile - but i have heard of people using the winmo platform with
longer pauses than than while running fewer apps at once.
- 12-23-2008, 08:45 PM #11Todd AllcockGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
At 22 Dec 2008 20:26:51 +0000 Steph wrote:
> > I'm a WinMo guy, personally, since I've been using it for ten years.
> > It's hard to switch when you're very comfortable with a platform.
> >
> > For syncing with Outlook, and basic smartphone functions, they all get
> > the job done, but the Touch Pro's VGA screen will certainly make media
> > viewing more pleasant, and web browsing less painful! ;-)
> >
>
> Do you have the HTC Touch Pro?
No- I use an AT&T Tilt (HTC Kaiser/TytII) unlocked on T-Mobile USA.
> I have heard it is grossly underpowered CPU wise.
My Tilt has a 400MHz processor, and 128MB RAM (more RAM is more important
than a faster CPU, IMO!)
> Even my Palm OS based Treo can handle SMS, playing audio, using BT
> headset and running my MobileXT app simutanesouly. Sure it stutters once
> in awhile - but i have heard of people using the winmo platform with
> longer pauses than than while running fewer apps at once.
My Tilt runs smooth enough most times, but some CPU-intensive apps grind it
to a halt- Skype, high-bitrate media playback, etc.
- 12-24-2008, 07:05 AM #12TomGuest
Re: Replacing a Palm OS Treo
I replaced my 755P with a Blackberry curve. It is great! I highly
recommend it.
Steph wrote:
> I have had my Treo 700p for a couple of years.
> It was flashed with the 755 ROMs awhile back giving it a bit more life
> and responiveness.
>
> As many are doing, we are looking at entering a new contract, and that of
> course is the opportunity for a new handset.
>
> My contenders are:
>
> Treo 755p - Palm OS
> Treo 800w - Windows Mobile
> Blackberry Curve
>
> I welcome any feedback on the above phones.
> The Palm OS has been good to me for many years, and I really enjoy the
> ability to keep all those items (notes, memos, addressbook, etc.) at hand
> and easily up to date. Additionally, I am a moderate SMS person - mostly
> for alerts from work and basic texting to friends/family.
>
> The Palm OS platform has also been great for adding applications to the
> phone - whether productivity or games for the kids.
>
> I do a lot of Microsoft administration, so I am leaning a bit towards the
> 800w (and the wi-fi is a nice option). This would also work with our
> sharepoint site via the pocket/mobile IE. But everyone seems to love
> their Blackberries.
>
> For my SO, I am pushing the RANT - key for texting and a bit of web
> surfing.
>
> Thoughts or nudges in one direction or another?
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