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  1. #1
    Phil, Squid-in-Training
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    Argh, I'm confused.

    I bought a Sanyo 5300 on eBay today for $190 shipped. I was going to use it
    to replace my A400 that has been bugging out on me recently with dropped
    calls and whatnot. I went to my local PCS store to see if they could get me
    a new A400 or equivalent, but the tech said that my PRL and firmware were
    way old, which is why I was dropping calls with full signal strength.

    So then she took it back for 1.5 hours and I got it back... it seems to hold
    calls longer than 2 or 3 minutes now. Good thing.

    So now I'm in a dilemma. I want the Sanyo's range and stuff, but I'm not
    sure I need all the Vision features. Can I have a regular Sprint plan
    without all the Vision stuff, but still use a Vision phone? I know I won't
    be able to transfer the pictures I take through the web, but a connectivity
    kit should do the trick. I don't have a laptop so web access isn't very
    important.

    I don't really understand the concept of Vision - is it just 3G data
    capability coupled with colorful screens and additional (useless) services?

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training





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  2. #2
    daye
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    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    You can have a non-vision plan with a vision capable phone, that's for sure.

    "Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:wR%[email protected]
    > Argh, I'm confused.
    >
    > I bought a Sanyo 5300 on eBay today for $190 shipped. I was going to use

    it
    > to replace my A400 that has been bugging out on me recently with dropped
    > calls and whatnot. I went to my local PCS store to see if they could get

    me
    > a new A400 or equivalent, but the tech said that my PRL and firmware were
    > way old, which is why I was dropping calls with full signal strength.
    >
    > So then she took it back for 1.5 hours and I got it back... it seems to

    hold
    > calls longer than 2 or 3 minutes now. Good thing.
    >
    > So now I'm in a dilemma. I want the Sanyo's range and stuff, but I'm not
    > sure I need all the Vision features. Can I have a regular Sprint plan
    > without all the Vision stuff, but still use a Vision phone? I know I

    won't
    > be able to transfer the pictures I take through the web, but a

    connectivity
    > kit should do the trick. I don't have a laptop so web access isn't very
    > important.
    >
    > I don't really understand the concept of Vision - is it just 3G data
    > capability coupled with colorful screens and additional (useless)

    services?
    >
    > --
    > Phil, Squid-in-Training
    >
    >






  3. #3
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
    > Argh, I'm confused.
    >
    > I bought a Sanyo 5300 on eBay today for $190 shipped. I was going to
    > use it to replace my A400 that has been bugging out on me recently
    > with dropped calls and whatnot. I went to my local PCS store to see
    > if they could get me a new A400 or equivalent, but the tech said that
    > my PRL and firmware were way old, which is why I was dropping calls
    > with full signal strength.
    >
    > So then she took it back for 1.5 hours and I got it back... it seems
    > to hold calls longer than 2 or 3 minutes now. Good thing.


    Awesome. Good to hear we got that resolved for you. But that brings us
    to...

    >
    > So now I'm in a dilemma. I want the Sanyo's range and stuff, but I'm
    > not sure I need all the Vision features. Can I have a regular Sprint
    > plan without all the Vision stuff, but still use a Vision phone? I
    > know I won't be able to transfer the pictures I take through the web,
    > but a connectivity kit should do the trick. I don't have a laptop so
    > web access isn't very important.


    Actually, yes, you can. You'll get charged for every bit of data transfer
    that happens if you do it (over and above the monthly fee for using it), but
    you'll still be able to access all those data services on the phone,
    including Picturemail(r). Picturemail will be a $5/month charge after a
    2-week trial period, if you accept that charge.

    However, we should still be able to activate and program the phone even if
    you don't swap to a plan that allows for a Vision Pack (assuming such a swap
    is even necessary).

    >
    > I don't really understand the concept of Vision - is it just 3G data
    > capability coupled with colorful screens and additional (useless)
    > services?


    It's a *little* more complicated than that, but that covers the core facts.

    I think the *biggest* difference is that Vision is *not* time based. It's
    data based. You get charged for the amount of KB sent to and from your
    phone, not for the amount of time it takes, even if you have no Vision pack
    on your plan.
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    R
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint
    I *don't* speak for them





  4. #4
    Phil, Squid-in-Training
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    > > So now I'm in a dilemma. I want the Sanyo's range and stuff, but I'm
    > > not sure I need all the Vision features. Can I have a regular Sprint
    > > plan without all the Vision stuff, but still use a Vision phone? I
    > > know I won't be able to transfer the pictures I take through the web,
    > > but a connectivity kit should do the trick. I don't have a laptop so
    > > web access isn't very important.

    >
    > Actually, yes, you can. You'll get charged for every bit of data transfer
    > that happens if you do it (over and above the monthly fee for using it),

    but
    > you'll still be able to access all those data services on the phone,
    > including Picturemail(r). Picturemail will be a $5/month charge after a
    > 2-week trial period, if you accept that charge.


    Thanks - explained it well. But let's say I take pictures with the phone.
    Can I upload the pictures to the computer with the USB cable?

    Also, since it's 3G data, I can't use web/vision services at night for free,
    because it doesn't use my minutes, right?

    If I stick with a non-vision plan, every KB I transfer (both up and down) is
    a penny at any time, no? I have a free and clear america plan I believe -
    no frills national.

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training





  5. #5
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    You can use Vision in the daytime too, as it does not use minutes
    then either. But if you do not have Vision added to your plan, it will
    be $.01 per KB.



    Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:

    >>>So now I'm in a dilemma. I want the Sanyo's range and stuff, but I'm
    >>>not sure I need all the Vision features. Can I have a regular Sprint
    >>>plan without all the Vision stuff, but still use a Vision phone? I
    >>>know I won't be able to transfer the pictures I take through the web,
    >>>but a connectivity kit should do the trick. I don't have a laptop so
    >>>web access isn't very important.

    >>
    >>Actually, yes, you can. You'll get charged for every bit of data transfer
    >>that happens if you do it (over and above the monthly fee for using it),

    >
    > but
    >
    >>you'll still be able to access all those data services on the phone,
    >>including Picturemail(r). Picturemail will be a $5/month charge after a
    >>2-week trial period, if you accept that charge.

    >
    >
    > Thanks - explained it well. But let's say I take pictures with the phone.
    > Can I upload the pictures to the computer with the USB cable?
    >
    > Also, since it's 3G data, I can't use web/vision services at night for free,
    > because it doesn't use my minutes, right?
    >
    > If I stick with a non-vision plan, every KB I transfer (both up and down) is
    > a penny at any time, no? I have a free and clear america plan I believe -
    > no frills national.
    >
    > --
    > Phil, Squid-in-Training
    >
    >





  6. #6
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:

    >
    > Thanks - explained it well. But let's say I take pictures with the
    > phone. Can I upload the pictures to the computer with the USB cable?


    If the cable supports it, I suppose. From what I hear, they do. I just
    don't want to promise something I myself haven't tried. And no, such USB
    use would not impose a charge from us. I think that last is blazingly
    obvious, but I thought I'd be sure and toss that in.

    >
    > Also, since it's 3G data, I can't use web/vision services at night
    > for free, because it doesn't use my minutes, right?


    Well... not without a Vision pack. It's 1/KB daytime, nighttime,
    dinnertime, breakfasttime, bedtime, anytime if you don't have one. so,
    correct, you can't use it at night without incurring additional fees.

    >
    > If I stick with a non-vision plan, every KB I transfer (both up and
    > down) is a penny at any time, no? I have a free and clear america
    > plan I believe - no frills national.


    Yes. penny per KB, anytime, anywhere Vision works. If you have a F&CA
    plan, though, then you have a plan on which you can add a Vision pack for
    two months for no charge and see if you like it. If you don't cancel before
    the second bill gets printed after you sign up, you will see a charge for it
    on that second bill, but it'll get credited back if still cancel before 60
    days.

    And no, getting the Vision add-on pack does *not* require a new contract, or
    a plan change.
    --
    -+-
    R
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint
    I *don't* speak for them





  7. #7
    Phil, Squid-in-Training
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    "O/Siris" <[email protected]ntpcs.com> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > Thanks - explained it well. But let's say I take pictures with the
    > > phone. Can I upload the pictures to the computer with the USB cable?


    <snip helpful stuff>

    Thanks a bunch Rob, you're a great help!

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training





  8. #8
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
    > "O/Siris" <[email protected]ntpcs.com> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Thanks - explained it well. But let's say I take pictures with the
    >>> phone. Can I upload the pictures to the computer with the USB cable?

    >
    > <snip helpful stuff>
    >
    > Thanks a bunch Rob, you're a great help!


    Very welcome, Phil. I aim to be exactly that. At least until the big guys
    decide I've said too much.
    --
    -+-
    R
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint
    I *don't* speak for them





  9. #9
    paul
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?


    "Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:wR%[email protected]
    > Argh, I'm confused.
    >
    > I bought a Sanyo 5300 on eBay today for $190 shipped. I was going to use

    it
    > to replace my A400 that has been bugging out on me recently with dropped
    > calls and whatnot. I went to my local PCS store to see if they could get

    me
    > a new A400 or equivalent, but the tech said that my PRL and firmware were
    > way old, which is why I was dropping calls with full signal strength.
    >
    > So then she took it back for 1.5 hours and I got it back... it seems to

    hold
    > calls longer than 2 or 3 minutes now. Good thing.
    >
    > So now I'm in a dilemma. I want the Sanyo's range and stuff, but I'm not
    > sure I need all the Vision features. Can I have a regular Sprint plan
    > without all the Vision stuff, but still use a Vision phone? I know I

    won't
    > be able to transfer the pictures I take through the web, but a

    connectivity
    > kit should do the trick. I don't have a laptop so web access isn't very
    > important.
    >
    > I don't really understand the concept of Vision - is it just 3G data
    > capability coupled with colorful screens and additional (useless)

    services?
    >
    > --
    > Phil, Squid-in-Training

    I just called customer service and had the phone activated. They will do it
    for free if you explain the situation





  10. #10
    P N
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    tell them that your old phone is broken and you want to switch it to
    your new phone (or any color phone) without changing the plan.
    I did it last year.

    "paul" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    >
    > "Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:wR%[email protected]
    > > Argh, I'm confused.
    > >
    > > I bought a Sanyo 5300 on eBay today for $190 shipped. I was going to use

    > it
    > > to replace my A400 that has been bugging out on me recently with dropped
    > > calls and whatnot. I went to my local PCS store to see if they could get

    > me
    > > a new A400 or equivalent, but the tech said that my PRL and firmware were
    > > way old, which is why I was dropping calls with full signal strength.
    > >
    > > So then she took it back for 1.5 hours and I got it back... it seems to

    > hold
    > > calls longer than 2 or 3 minutes now. Good thing.
    > >
    > > So now I'm in a dilemma. I want the Sanyo's range and stuff, but I'm not
    > > sure I need all the Vision features. Can I have a regular Sprint plan
    > > without all the Vision stuff, but still use a Vision phone? I know I

    > won't
    > > be able to transfer the pictures I take through the web, but a

    > connectivity
    > > kit should do the trick. I don't have a laptop so web access isn't very
    > > important.
    > >
    > > I don't really understand the concept of Vision - is it just 3G data
    > > capability coupled with colorful screens and additional (useless)

    > services?
    > >
    > > --
    > > Phil, Squid-in-Training

    > I just called customer service and had the phone activated. They will do it
    > for free if you explain the situation
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  11. #11
    Phil, Squid-in-Training
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    "P N" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > tell them that your old phone is broken and you want to switch it to
    > your new phone (or any color phone) without changing the plan.
    > I did it last year.


    Cool tactic. Will try if I can't get activation for free...

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training





  12. #12
    p lane
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    Could you let us know if they charged ( or wanted to charge) you for an
    esn change--In the past (2-3 years ago) they charged, then did away with
    it, then added the on line thing, just curious as to what police is now.

    "Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > "P N" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > tell them that your old phone is broken and you want to switch it to
    > > your new phone (or any color phone) without changing the plan.
    > > I did it last year.

    >
    > Cool tactic. Will try if I can't get activation for free...
    >
    > --
    > Phil, Squid-in-Training
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  13. #13
    p lane
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    After my post to you,tried the sprintpcs.com on line activation which
    has not been working for a while--1) it seemed like it was going to work
    2) It indicated, in writing, that if you are just changing phones, no
    charge. you might want to try this and see--let us know, if you will.

    "Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > "P N" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > tell them that your old phone is broken and you want to switch it to
    > > your new phone (or any color phone) without changing the plan.
    > > I did it last year.

    >
    > Cool tactic. Will try if I can't get activation for free...
    >
    > --
    > Phil, Squid-in-Training
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  14. #14
    SprintPCS Tech
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?



    [email protected] (P N) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > tell them that your old phone is broken and you want to switch it to
    > your new phone (or any color phone) without changing the plan.
    > I did it last year.
    >


    Checkmate. Good call. (Personaly I'm not crazy about the fact that
    they try to forse people with Vision phones onto Vision plans..)

    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  15. #15
    Phil, Squid-in-Training
    Guest

    Re: Vision phones with regular plan?

    "P N" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > tell them that your old phone is broken and you want to switch it to
    > your new phone (or any color phone) without changing the plan.
    > I did it last year.


    Cool tactic. Will try if I can't get activation for free...

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training





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