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  1. #1
    Bob Smith
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    Amazing to see the pictures of the citizens of NYC on CNN right now.

    CNN just reported that CITA says the cellular providers are experiencing
    grid loc, as everyone is trying to use their phones right now.

    Bob::thinking that cell shrinkage right now means no calls unless you are
    within 10 feet of a tower::





    See More: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?




  2. #2
    Ronkh
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?


    I have gotten calls from and to NYC & upstate NY on SPCS

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  3. #3
    Steven J Sobol
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?

    Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Amazing to see the pictures of the citizens of NYC on CNN right now.
    >
    > CNN just reported that CITA says the cellular providers are experiencing
    > grid loc, as everyone is trying to use their phones right now.
    >
    > Bob::thinking that cell shrinkage right now means no calls unless you are
    > within 10 feet of a tower::


    Don't know about New York, but my family is in Cleveland - I moved
    from there about 1 1/2 months ago - and all of my work is there. I was
    able to call from my Verizon cell phone to an Alltel cell phone in Cleveland,
    but only on about 3 out of 5 tries (got lots of fast busies). Haven't tried
    my two close friends in Cleveland who are on SPCS.

    Cleveland only has about 1.5 million people in the metro area, however,
    where NYC has about 11-13 million. I'm sure there will be much more trouble
    reaching NYC cell phones this evening.

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    Chuck P Adams
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?

    My verizon phone would not send a call for about a hour when the power went out
    then I guess the load died down and now they go thru. Nextel had no problems
    that I saw from people using the walkie talkie.





  5. #5
    Scott Emick
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?

    I talked to my buddy in Cleveland several times today during the outage from
    Austintown here PCS to PCS.

    Scott


    "Chuck P Adams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > My verizon phone would not send a call for about a hour when the power

    went out
    > then I guess the load died down and now they go thru. Nextel had no

    problems
    > that I saw from people using the walkie talkie.
    >
    >





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  6. #6
    Isaiah Beard
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?



    We had a temporary hiccup in phone service in the central NJ area
    shortly after the power outage. In my area, we had a power surge and
    brownout that lasted about 30 seconds, then our local utility managed to
    come back online.

    Once power came back, both landline AND cell service were messed up.
    Pick up the landline and dial any number, local or LD, and you'd
    immediately get a fast busy signal. The SPCS phone was hit or miss:
    about 25% of the time you'd connect, other times, you'd either get a
    "network busy" message on the phone's screen, dead air or a fast busy.
    Incoming calls were equally hit or miss. And voicemail was unreachable.

    That lasted about an hour and a half. Phone and landline service were
    restored simultaneously. So I think it may have been a problem with the
    local switching office here.


    Bob Smith wrote:

    > Amazing to see the pictures of the citizens of NYC on CNN right now.
    >
    > CNN just reported that CITA says the cellular providers are experiencing
    > grid loc, as everyone is trying to use their phones right now.
    >
    > Bob::thinking that cell shrinkage right now means no calls unless you are
    > within 10 feet of a tower::
    >
    >





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    Ronkh
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?


    actually from what i understand, nextel was down

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  8. #8
    David G. Imber
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?

    On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:37:37 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Amazing to see the pictures of the citizens of NYC on CNN right now.
    >
    >CNN just reported that CITA says the cellular providers are experiencing
    >grid loc, as everyone is trying to use their phones right now.
    >
    >Bob::thinking that cell shrinkage right now means no calls unless you are
    >within 10 feet of a tower::


    In lower Manhattan I lost service right away, and the fast busy
    signal suggested it was from overuse. Then, about three hours after the
    power went down (around 7:15) I was able to make a few calls. Within twenty
    minutes when I tried again I got bupkis, and that's the way it stayed until
    my power came on again at 2:30 today.




  9. #9
    Phillipe
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    David G. Imber <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 21:37:37 GMT, "Bob Smith"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Amazing to see the pictures of the citizens of NYC on CNN right now.
    > >
    > >CNN just reported that CITA says the cellular providers are experiencing
    > >grid loc, as everyone is trying to use their phones right now.
    > >
    > >Bob::thinking that cell shrinkage right now means no calls unless you are
    > >within 10 feet of a tower::

    >
    > In lower Manhattan I lost service right away, and the fast busy
    > signal suggested it was from overuse. Then, about three hours after the
    > power went down (around 7:15) I was able to make a few calls. Within twenty
    > minutes when I tried again I got bupkis, and that's the way it stayed until
    > my power came on again at 2:30 today.



    No reason for anyone to complain. The reason cell companies can come
    close to breaking even is they build caacity that can handle 20% of
    users making calls in case of emergency. The kind of unusual emergency
    that might happen twice in 3 years.

    A major blackout happens once ever 25 years. You really want Sprint (and
    other cell companies) to have capacity for 100% of users to use the
    system simultaneously? You willing to pay five times as much for that
    ability??


    ...



  10. #10
    David G. Imber
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?

    On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:30:37 GMT, Phillipe <[email protected]> wrote:


    >
    >No reason for anyone to complain. The reason cell companies can come
    >close to breaking even is they build caacity that can handle 20% of
    >users making calls in case of emergency. The kind of unusual emergency
    >that might happen twice in 3 years.
    >
    >A major blackout happens once ever 25 years. You really want Sprint (and
    >other cell companies) to have capacity for 100% of users to use the
    >system simultaneously? You willing to pay five times as much for that
    >ability??


    For the record, I wasn't complaining, just answering the question.
    I agree with you. However, back in February I was at a large gathering and
    could not make a call because the local cells were overloaded, I suppose.
    At such times as those I would expect better performance. Even if there are
    several hundred people concentrated in a small area trying to use the
    system simultaneously, it should work. I imagine this won't be a problem in
    a few years.






  11. #11
    Maokh
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?


    Its not just sprint ... a lot of dialtone and various circuits went down
    during the blackout. Not due to the carrier, but whoever ends up being
    in the middle.

    The PSTN (and internet) is a very vast network, dependent on
    interconnections between a multitude of companies. If a couple
    critical points lose power down the chain, backup power and extra
    capacity at the cell site is useless.

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    Globaldisc
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?

    The reason cell companies can come
    close to breaking even is they build caacity that can handle 20% of
    users making calls in case of emergency.
    ________________

    if this is accurate, it's a poor model. i live in manhattan/nyc....and
    describe sprint's service during the black out along the lines of the previous
    nyc dweller.....and all things considered....it was "reasonable".

    However T-Mobile users seemed to have more success early in and during the
    black out than sprint users.

    back to the 20% thingie....increasingly from what i see, people are turning
    100% to their cellular vendore for their phone needs as the cable company
    covers their internet access. it's not a stretch to me to say on any given day
    in nyc...15%+ of sprint users might be using their phone...at the same precise
    moment. methinks an emergency capacity centered on supporting 20% is rather
    low....



  13. #13
    Paul Kim
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]>:

    > Bob::thinking that cell shrinkage right now means no calls unless you are
    > within 10 feet of a tower::


    So, do all cell towers have backup generators? Or how are they powered?

    Also, how are phone networks powered? Why didn't they go down?







  14. #14
    Paul Kim
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?


    "Phillipe" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > A major blackout happens once ever 25 years. You really want Sprint (and
    > other cell companies) to have capacity for 100% of users to use the
    > system simultaneously? You willing to pay five times as much for that
    > ability??
    >


    100% capacity is not possible with 1xRTT and the spectrum Sprint has, in
    metro areas like NYC.

    Sprectrum-wise, it may be possible down the road, perhaps with packet-based
    PTT, and EV-DV. After all, you can fit essentially a limitless number of
    calls on 3mbps with a 8kbps codec. But then, they would also need to install
    more bandwidth at the tower locations, not to mention the backbone probably
    won't be able to handle that many calls from that many towers. So you'd
    still probably get a fast busy signal





  15. #15
    DBojano228
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    Re: So, anyone in NYC able to make a call?

    >The reason cell companies can come
    >close to breaking even is they build caacity that can handle 20% of
    >users making calls in case of emergency.
    >________________
    >
    >if this is accurate, it's a poor model. i live in manhattan/nyc....and
    >describe sprint's service during the black out along the lines of the
    >previous
    >nyc dweller.....and all things considered....it was "reasonable".


    Its like a gym membership. At any given time a gym only has a small percentage
    of its members there using the equiment. If all of its members showed up at
    once to work out there's no way the gym can handle it. Same thing with cell
    phones. Should a gym be forced to quadruple its size to guarantee access for
    members who most likely will never/rarely show up all at the same time?

    I was in Manhattan during the blackout. My cell phone (Startac) was useless
    for the first hour but then after that I was able to make a few calls, although
    I had to dial several times. Overall Sprint wasn't as bad as I thought it
    would be. I had some dropped calls and in Brooklyn I had no signal in a place
    that I usually have a strong signal.




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