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  1. #1
    Melisa Johns
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    The "Quick rundown of phones" is good. Sanyo 4500 was recommended to me,
    and I still see the Sanyo 6000 on websites, but with no availability.

    Are there any recently discontinued phones that have a track record to
    justify purchasing a used phone?





    See More: Why no current Motorola phones?




  2. #2
    Phillipe
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Melisa Johns" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The "Quick rundown of phones" is good. Sanyo 4500 was recommended to me,
    > and I still see the Sanyo 6000 on websites, but with no availability.
    >
    > Are there any recently discontinued phones that have a track record to
    > justify purchasing a used phone?
    >
    >


    The speaker phone feature works far better on the Sanyo 4700 than on the
    4500.



  3. #3
    1900mhzcdma\(SU\)
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?


    "Phillipe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    | In article <[email protected]>,
    | "Melisa Johns" <[email protected]> wrote:
    |
    | > The "Quick rundown of phones" is good. Sanyo 4500 was recommended to
    me,
    | > and I still see the Sanyo 6000 on websites, but with no availability.
    | >
    | > Are there any recently discontinued phones that have a track record to
    | > justify purchasing a used phone?
    | >
    | >
    |
    | The speaker phone feature works far better on the Sanyo 4700 than on the
    | 4500.
    The 4500 is quite old. At least 2 years.





  4. #4
    Melisa Johns
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    So is that a recommendation for the 4700?

    BTW Sprint ecare replied to me stating there is a software patch to make my
    Nokia 6185 WLNP compliant. The local Sprint tech in Westminster, CA
    disagrees.

    "1900mhzcdma(SU)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:w1j%[email protected]
    >
    > "Phillipe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news[email protected]
    > | In article <bhjs[email protected]>,


    >> | The speaker phone feature works far better on the Sanyo 4700 than on

    the
    > | 4500.
    > The 4500 is quite old. At least 2 years.
    >
    >






  5. #5
    Andrew S
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    "Melisa Johns" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > So is that a recommendation for the 4700?
    >
    > BTW Sprint ecare replied to me stating there is a software patch to make my
    > Nokia 6185 WLNP compliant. The local Sprint tech in Westminster, CA
    > disagrees.


    WLNP = Wireless Local Number Portability?

    How would that relate to the handset (aside from subsidy locks)?



  6. #6
    1900mhzcdma\(SU\)
    Guest

    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?


    "Andrew S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    | "Melisa Johns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:<[email protected]>...
    | > So is that a recommendation for the 4700?
    | >
    | > BTW Sprint ecare replied to me stating there is a software patch to make
    my
    | > Nokia 6185 WLNP compliant. The local Sprint tech in Westminster, CA
    | > disagrees.
    |
    | WLNP = Wireless Local Number Portability?
    |
    | How would that relate to the handset (aside from subsidy locks)?
    If you ever activated a phone it would have MIN and phone number field.
    Since the 6185 isn't from sprint, you would probably have to send it in to
    nokia. And I don't guarantee it would even be able to be activated on
    sprint.
    So....
    Get phone sent to nokia for firmware flash,
    Get MSL,
    Hope sprint would activate it.
    good luck





  7. #7
    hatoncat
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?


    1900mhzcdma\(SU\) wrote:
    > *"Andrew S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > | "Melisa Johns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    > | > So is that a recommendation for the 4700?
    > | >
    > | > BTW Sprint ecare replied to me stating there is a software patch
    > to make
    > my
    > | > Nokia 6185 WLNP compliant. The local Sprint tech in Westminster,
    > CA
    > | > disagrees.
    > |
    > | WLNP = Wireless Local Number Portability?
    > |
    > | How would that relate to the handset (aside from subsidy locks)?
    > If you ever activated a phone it would have MIN and phone number
    > field.
    > Since the 6185 isn't from sprint, you would probably have to send it
    > in to
    > nokia. And I don't guarantee it would even be able to be activated
    > on
    > sprint.
    > So....
    > Get phone sent to nokia for firmware flash,
    > Get MSL,
    > Hope sprint would activate it.
    > good luck *


    That's not true at all. Sprint Stores can flash an unactivated phone,
    and only Sprint performs firmware upgrades on Sprint-enabled phones
    (such as the 6185).

    If your store is corporate you need to tell the tech they need to go to
    the "tech web site" and download the latest firmware. If they are an
    affiliate store then you need to travel to a corporate store.

    BTW, for your information ammo, the latest version of the 6185's
    firmware is SPR531_6185_D4 and the store needs to update their systems
    with the latest firmware if they don't have it.

    --
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    Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap




  8. #8
    Phillipe
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    I had a 6185 4 years ago, and as I recall, Nokia had promised they'd
    have an upgrade to web enable it, and never delivered, which caused
    Sprint and Nokia to have a falling out.



  9. #9
    Carl.
    Guest

    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    "Phillipe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > I had a 6185 4 years ago, and as I recall, Nokia had promised they'd
    > have an upgrade to web enable it, and never delivered, which caused
    > Sprint and Nokia to have a falling out.


    Send Nokia an email and ask them how that browser update is coming along . .
    ..


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  10. #10
    ZJ Driver
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?


    "Phillipe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]
    > I had a 6185 4 years ago, and as I recall, Nokia had promised they'd
    > have an upgrade to web enable it, and never delivered, which caused
    > Sprint and Nokia to have a falling out.


    I also had the 6185. Loved that phone. And I seem to remember the upgrade
    that web enabled the phone...I could be wrong tho, it's been a couple years
    and seveal phones since then....





  11. #11
    Carl.
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    "ZJ Driver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:feE%[email protected]
    >
    > "Phillipe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news[email protected]
    > > I had a 6185 4 years ago, and as I recall, Nokia had promised they'd
    > > have an upgrade to web enable it, and never delivered, which caused
    > > Sprint and Nokia to have a falling out.

    >
    > I also had the 6185. Loved that phone. And I seem to remember the

    upgrade
    > that web enabled the phone...I could be wrong tho, it's been a couple

    years
    > and seveal phones since then....


    I remember people getting their nice 6185, if they were lucky enough to get
    their hands on one that worked, fried when they brought it in for an update.

    On a related note, I wish Nokia would start making phones that look/feel
    like they used to. Hard rubber buttons, black phone, no shiney or sparkling
    stuff.


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  12. #12
    Andrew S
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    "1900mhzcdma\(SU\)" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<j6C%[email protected]>...
    > "Andrew S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > | "Melisa Johns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>...
    > | > So is that a recommendation for the 4700?
    > | >
    > | > BTW Sprint ecare replied to me stating there is a software patch to make
    > my
    > | > Nokia 6185 WLNP compliant. The local Sprint tech in Westminster, CA
    > | > disagrees.
    > |
    > | WLNP = Wireless Local Number Portability?
    > |
    > | How would that relate to the handset (aside from subsidy locks)?
    > If you ever activated a phone it would have MIN and phone number field.
    > Since the 6185 isn't from sprint, you would probably have to send it in to
    > nokia. And I don't guarantee it would even be able to be activated on
    > sprint.
    > So....
    > Get phone sent to nokia for firmware flash,
    > Get MSL,
    > Hope sprint would activate it.
    > good luck


    sorry, I'm still confused - what aspect of a handset would make it
    compliant with WLNP. Isn't that a network feature?



  13. #13
    Andrew S
    Guest

    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    hatoncat <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > BTW, for your information ammo, the latest version of the 6185's
    > firmware is SPR531_6185_D4 and the store needs to update their systems
    > with the latest firmware if they don't have it.


    How does this build improve on 530/D3 (4/11/2000)?

    Are there places which can still program this? The Sales & Service
    store on Devon & Lincoln, Chicago says they no longer have the ability
    (cable?) to do it. I found this out when I tried to get a PRL upgrade
    a few months ago (after an OTA left me with 10632).

    To be fair, Sprint credited my account $70 to encourage me to switch
    to something newer. Also, the mic (tx) audio is getting unintelligibly
    bad - though it's not consistent.



  14. #14
    Andrew S
    Guest

    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    "ZJ Driver" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<feE%[email protected]>...
    > "Phillipe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news[email protected]
    > > I had a 6185 4 years ago, and as I recall, Nokia had promised they'd
    > > have an upgrade to web enable it, and never delivered, which caused
    > > Sprint and Nokia to have a falling out.

    >
    > I also had the 6185. Loved that phone. And I seem to remember the upgrade
    > that web enabled the phone...I could be wrong tho, it's been a couple years
    > and seveal phones since then....


    yes, the browser functionality was added in an upgrade



  15. #15
    O/Siris
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    Re: Why no current Motorola phones?

    Andrew S wrote:

    > sorry, I'm still confused - what aspect of a handset would make it
    > compliant with WLNP. Isn't that a network feature?


    In short, the phones need to be able to support the phone number *and* an
    internally generated number that closely resembles the phone number, but
    that will increasingly be different than the phone number. The phone number
    will continue to operate as before, but the internal number will be used to
    actually track usage and allow for proper billing.
    --
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    R
    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint
    I *don't* speak for them





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