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  1. #1
    Richard Zellmer
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    I am looking for a new Vision phone and want to be able to connect to a
    laptop to do some email checking.

    Would I be better off with the Sanyo 8100 or the Samsung VGA1000?

    I read some where that the Samsungs work better with laptops because they
    have a true USB cord with special drivers rather then a USB cord that
    transforms the data into serial and then uses the windows serial driver
    which has a cap at 115,000 bps

    Is there any truth to this? If so I would assume I would be better off
    with the VGA1000? My concern with that is it seems to be harder to find
    cables for that phone.

    Any ideas?






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  2. #2
    Dan W.
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    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    From what i have read, the Samsung A500 is the last Sprint released
    phone that will work with a laptop connection. Apparently they figured
    it would be easier to "fix" the phones rather than attempt to limit or
    police the usage.

    --
    Dan W.
    North Texas
    hominid7 "AT" hotmail "DOT" com
    Provider: ATTWS-TDMA



    "Richard Zellmer" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > I am looking for a new Vision phone and want to be able to connect to a
    > laptop to do some email checking.
    >
    > Would I be better off with the Sanyo 8100 or the Samsung VGA1000?
    >
    > I read some where that the Samsungs work better with laptops because they
    > have a true USB cord with special drivers rather then a USB cord that
    > transforms the data into serial and then uses the windows serial driver
    > which has a cap at 115,000 bps
    >
    > Is there any truth to this? If so I would assume I would be better off
    > with the VGA1000? My concern with that is it seems to be harder to find
    > cables for that phone.
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  3. #3
    mcdgi
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    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    I experimented some with a USB cord hooked into the Sanyo 5300. It worked
    for surfing and email, but crapped out on doing things like file transfer.

    There have been a number of posts on this whole subject , look from July to
    today should give you some good information.

    Sprint is kind of schizo on you doing this anyway, depending on what
    customer service rep you talk to and some of the posts you see here from
    the Sprint guerrilla, (God bless'm) hooking your laptop up to your phone is
    either 1)OK, 2)Not OK, 3) OK so long as you don't abuse it, and 4) Its OK so
    long as you don't abuse it and we don't change our mind, in which case we
    can charge you 1) a lump sum 2) a horrendous amount per kilobyte or 3) a
    horrendous amount per minute connected, but bottom line, 4) you'll get
    screwed if we decide to catch you once we figure out what our policy is.

    I did not find the performance satisfactory, and one Sprint rep said the
    phone was not really designed for that, and that heavy usage could somehow
    break it (I presume the software). Well, maybe. (My usage is to pass files
    and stuff back and forth from the field to the corp FTP site).

    (Prior to that I used cellular PCMCIA card connected to an anlog phone that
    dialed my provider. Tricky, it would only work with ATT&T as the provider,
    it was slow (9600) and in some places the connection would not hold, it
    would say it was connected but nothing would happen.)

    So I decided to be a good boy and bought the Sprint Merlin card (PCMCIA
    card) and, that works pretty damn good. Its simple, compared to fussing
    with wires and the phone. I have used it around Florida, Mass and Vermont,
    and coverage was decent. Speeds varied, locally it was like wireless ISDN,
    file transfer indicating 70-90 kbs, not locally I'd say its like dialup
    based on file transfer speeds. Cost is a tad pricey $80 a month for
    unlimited usage, but it works well.





  4. #4
    RexyBlue
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    I've connected them both and find both phones acceptable for a laptop
    connection, with maybe a slight nod to the VGA1000 (A620). You can
    find the A620 cable only on ebay, to my knowledge. I bought mine from
    a seller in Baltimore named Hi-Spid and it works great. The Sanyo
    cable is available at Radio Shack for about $20.

    On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:10:11 -0400, "Richard Zellmer"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I am looking for a new Vision phone and want to be able to connect to a
    >laptop to do some email checking.
    >
    >Would I be better off with the Sanyo 8100 or the Samsung VGA1000?
    >
    >I read some where that the Samsungs work better with laptops because they
    >have a true USB cord with special drivers rather then a USB cord that
    >transforms the data into serial and then uses the windows serial driver
    >which has a cap at 115,000 bps
    >
    >Is there any truth to this? If so I would assume I would be better off
    >with the VGA1000? My concern with that is it seems to be harder to find
    >cables for that phone.
    >
    >Any ideas?
    >
    >





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  5. #5
    RexyBlue
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    Not true at all. See my post elsewhere in this thread.

    On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:47:12 -0000, [email protected] (Dan W.)
    wrote:

    >From what i have read, the Samsung A500 is the last Sprint released
    >phone that will work with a laptop connection. Apparently they figured
    >it would be easier to "fix" the phones rather than attempt to limit or
    >police the usage.





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  6. #6
    RexyBlue
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    This may well be your experience, but I've had no problems connecting
    a Sanyo 5300 and a Samsung A620. Granted I'm not using massive amounts
    of FTP, but for web surfing and email--in any amount you dare (dare,
    not care) to use, heavy, light or in-between--both work just fine. And
    pretty darned snappy, too.

    I'm waiting for the you-can't-do-this-anymore letter from SPCS to
    arrive.

    >I experimented some with a USB cord hooked into the Sanyo 5300. It worked
    >for surfing and email, but crapped out on doing things like file transfer.
    >
    >I did not find the performance satisfactory, and one Sprint rep said the
    >phone was not really designed for that, and that heavy usage could somehow
    >break it (I presume the software). Well, maybe. (My usage is to pass files
    >and stuff back and forth from the field to the corp FTP site).


    I think he lied to you. When I was re-signing up with Sprint a month
    ago, I heard a salesperson in a Sprint store tell a customer that
    Sprint didn't allow use of the phone as a modem. When the very same
    salesperson got to me, I said right away that data connection with the
    phone as a modem was extremely important to me. The reply? Amazing:
    "Yes, you can do that, but we don't sell the cables. You can buy them
    at Radio Shack and on ebay, though." I swear to God. Then he promptly
    sold me a phone.

    Like I said, I'm waiting for the you-can't-do-this-anymore letter from
    SPCS to arrive. I will cancel service on the spot, and if I have to
    pay the $150 then so be it.






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  7. #7
    p lane
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    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop


    Haven't I read somewhere (recently) that the wireless stuff (vision),
    the carriers have spent billions on is only about 2% utilized--If this
    is true, can you imagine the money they are losing on this?? can it be
    true about all this stuff we read about the carriers pissing off the
    few that are using it,
    their goal would be to reuce the use even further??--this is like the
    the record companies suing their customers over downloading--that to me
    would be one great way to make me loyal to whoever tried that--and leery
    of doing business with such a company.

    Probably I have missed the posts on this, but those of us who do "PAY"
    to use vision should be rewarded (and I guess we really are) rather than
    picked on. comments?




    RexyBlue <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Not true at all. See my post elsewhere in this thread.
    >
    > On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:47:12 -0000, [email protected] (Dan W.)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >From what i have read, the Samsung A500 is the last Sprint released
    > >phone that will work with a laptop connection. Apparently they figured
    > >it would be easier to "fix" the phones rather than attempt to limit or
    > >police the usage.

    >
    >
    >
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    > To email me, remove the zz.


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]



  8. #8
    Phillipe
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    In article <[email protected]>,
    RexyBlue <[email protected]hotmail.com> wrote:

    > This may well be your experience, but I've had no problems connecting
    > a Sanyo 5300 and a Samsung A620. Granted I'm not using massive amounts
    > of FTP, but for web surfing and email--in any amount you dare (dare,
    > not care) to use, heavy, light or in-between--both work just fine. And
    > pretty darned snappy, too.
    >
    > I'm waiting for the you-can't-do-this-anymore letter from SPCS to
    > arrive.
    >
    > >I experimented some with a USB cord hooked into the Sanyo 5300. It worked
    > >for surfing and email, but crapped out on doing things like file transfer.
    > >
    > >I did not find the performance satisfactory, and one Sprint rep said the
    > >phone was not really designed for that, and that heavy usage could somehow
    > >break it (I presume the software). Well, maybe. (My usage is to pass files
    > >and stuff back and forth from the field to the corp FTP site).

    >
    > I think he lied to you. When I was re-signing up with Sprint a month
    > ago, I heard a salesperson in a Sprint store tell a customer that
    > Sprint didn't allow use of the phone as a modem. When the very same
    > salesperson got to me, I said right away that data connection with the
    > phone as a modem was extremely important to me. The reply? Amazing:
    > "Yes, you can do that, but we don't sell the cables. You can buy them
    > at Radio Shack and on ebay, though." I swear to God. Then he promptly
    > sold me a phone.
    >
    > Like I said, I'm waiting for the you-can't-do-this-anymore letter from
    > SPCS to arrive. I will cancel service on the spot, and if I have to
    > pay the $150 then so be it.



    I wish the SprintPCS employees could be more candid as to the carrots
    and stocks used, that encourages the salespeople and CSRs to be so
    dishonest.



  9. #9
    hatoncat
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop


    All Vision phones support being used as a modem, so there really is no
    "best" phone. Generally the phones with better reception (Sanyo 4900,
    P300, etc) and are candybars tend to do better with #777, simply
    because they can get better reception and thus higher speeds.

    --
    Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
    Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap




  10. #10
    JackF
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    I could very well be wrong, but I thought that with the 2.5G system voice
    was the same as data. So less data would mean more voice capacity on a
    given site.

    "p lane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > Haven't I read somewhere (recently) that the wireless stuff (vision),
    > the carriers have spent billions on is only about 2% utilized--If this
    > is true, can you imagine the money they are losing on this?? can it be
    > true about all this stuff we read about the carriers pissing off the
    > few that are using it,
    > their goal would be to reuce the use even further??--this is like the
    > the record companies suing their customers over downloading--that to me
    > would be one great way to make me loyal to whoever tried that--and leery
    > of doing business with such a company.
    >
    > Probably I have missed the posts on this, but those of us who do "PAY"
    > to use vision should be rewarded (and I guess we really are) rather than
    > picked on. comments?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > RexyBlue <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > Not true at all. See my post elsewhere in this thread.
    > >
    > > On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:47:12 -0000, [email protected] (Dan W.)
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > >From what i have read, the Samsung A500 is the last Sprint released
    > > >phone that will work with a laptop connection. Apparently they figured
    > > >it would be easier to "fix" the phones rather than attempt to limit or
    > > >police the usage.

    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ----------------------------
    > > To email me, remove the zz.

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]






  11. #11
    Wyatt
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    RexyBlue <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > This may well be your experience, but I've had no problems connecting
    > a Sanyo 5300 and a Samsung A620. Granted I'm not using massive amounts
    > of FTP, but for web surfing and email--in any amount you dare (dare,
    > not care) to use, heavy, light or in-between--both work just fine. And
    > pretty darned snappy, too.
    >
    > I'm waiting for the you-can't-do-this-anymore letter from SPCS to
    > arrive.
    >
    > >I experimented some with a USB cord hooked into the Sanyo 5300. It worked
    > >for surfing and email, but crapped out on doing things like file transfer.
    > >
    > >I did not find the performance satisfactory, and one Sprint rep said the
    > >phone was not really designed for that, and that heavy usage could somehow
    > >break it (I presume the software). Well, maybe. (My usage is to pass files
    > >and stuff back and forth from the field to the corp FTP site).

    >
    > I think he lied to you. When I was re-signing up with Sprint a month
    > ago, I heard a salesperson in a Sprint store tell a customer that
    > Sprint didn't allow use of the phone as a modem. When the very same
    > salesperson got to me, I said right away that data connection with the
    > phone as a modem was extremely important to me. The reply? Amazing:
    > "Yes, you can do that, but we don't sell the cables. You can buy them
    > at Radio Shack and on ebay, though." I swear to God. Then he promptly
    > sold me a phone.
    >
    > Like I said, I'm waiting for the you-can't-do-this-anymore letter from
    > SPCS to arrive. I will cancel service on the spot, and if I have to
    > pay the $150 then so be it.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ----------------------------
    > To email me, remove the zz.



    Hi Rexy,

    I just bought the A620 (VGA1000).... I figured I could type #777 and
    press send and hear something..... but I just get a # disconnected
    message. Does this service still exist?.... or can you only dial
    #777 through the data cable?

    Wyatt



  12. #12
    Sprintposter
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    Dont pay the $150 ETF. if the contract was entered into under false pretenses
    (using phone as modem is OK), then its invalid. Write to your Attornet General
    with a certified copy to Sprint Corporate in Kansas.



  13. #13
    Marc Brown
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    RexyBlue <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > I've connected them both and find both phones acceptable for a laptop
    > connection, with maybe a slight nod to the VGA1000 (A620). You can
    > find the A620 cable only on ebay, to my knowledge. I bought mine from
    > a seller in Baltimore named Hi-Spid and it works great. The Sanyo
    > cable is available at Radio Shack for about $20.


    How are people using their cell phones as modems, exactly? Hook the phone
    up to a laptop, yes, got that much. Then what? Is there software I'd
    need on the PC side? Is there something specific I'd need to dial on the
    phone?

    Depending on what exactly is involved, I may see about hooking it up to my
    PDA. It would indeed be rather nice to access email on the road.



  14. #14
    John Richards
    Guest

    Re: Best Phone to connect to Laptop

    > I've connected them both and find both phones acceptable for a laptop
    > connection, with maybe a slight nod to the VGA1000 (A620). You can
    > find the A620 cable only on ebay, to my knowledge. I bought mine from
    > a seller in Baltimore named Hi-Spid and it works great. The Sanyo
    > cable is available at Radio Shack for about $20.


    Radio Shack has the cable for the A310 which works fine with the A620.

    --
    John Richards





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