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  1. #31
    About Dakota
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    Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors

    Kyocera began offering phones that do not have a whip antenna. The
    antenna is still external, but they are not whips. The phone models are
    Kyocera 3245 and Kyocera KE414


    Group Special Mobile wrote:
    > On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:33:37 GMT, "Mr. Magoo" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>But you will *never* see CDMA handsets with internal only antennas.
    >>>They always have a telescoping antenna.

    >>
    >>Verizon is selling CDMA phones with stub antennas now. So is Sprint.
    >>CDMA vs. GSM doesn't change the laws of physics.

    >
    >
    > Examples? I just question why it is that every CDMA phone that *I*
    > have seen has a pull out whip antenna. I've not seen one that didn't.
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    > To send an email reply send to
    > GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com





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  2. #32
    Mr. Magoo
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    Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote:

    > On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:33:37 GMT, "Mr. Magoo" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >In article <[email protected]>,
    > > Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote:
    > >
    > >> But you will *never* see CDMA handsets with internal only antennas.
    > >> They always have a telescoping antenna.

    > >
    > >Verizon is selling CDMA phones with stub antennas now. So is Sprint.
    > >CDMA vs. GSM doesn't change the laws of physics.


    Verizon

    Motorola v60p
    LG vx6000
    etc

    Sprint

    bunch of samsungs
    etc.



  3. #33
    jaminmc
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    Re: Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors


    The whole reason the antanna's on the CDMA phones are extendable isn't
    for CDMA, it is for Analog Roam. That is why you see digital only
    phone's with just stubs.

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  4. #34
    jaminmc
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    Re: Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors


    The whole reason the antanna's on the CDMA phones are extendable isn't
    for CDMA, it is for Analog Roam. That is why you see digital only
    phone's with just stubs.

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  5. #35
    jaminmc
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    Re: Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors


    The whole reason the antanna's on the CDMA phones are extendable isn't
    for CDMA, it is for Analog Roam. That is why you see digital only
    phone's with just stubs.

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    Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
    Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap




  6. #36
    Jerome Zelinske
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    Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors

    Is that why three of my Sprint PCS single band phones have had an
    extendable antenna?


    jaminmc wrote:

    > The whole reason the antanna's on the CDMA phones are extendable isn't
    > for CDMA, it is for Analog Roam. That is why you see digital only
    > phone's with just stubs.
    >
    > --
    > Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
    > Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
    >





  7. #37
    P Reality
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    Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Jerome Zelinske <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Is that why three of my Sprint PCS single band phones have had an
    > extendable antenna?


    Yup, higher frequency = shorter wave length. Einstein physics there.

    Lower 800 Mhz needs longer antenna for longer wave length, hence
    external/extensible.



  8. #38
    Mark F
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    Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors

    Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:33:37 GMT, "Mr. Magoo" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >In article <[email protected]>,
    > > Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote:
    > >
    > >> But you will *never* see CDMA handsets with internal only antennas.
    > >> They always have a telescoping antenna.

    > >
    > >Verizon is selling CDMA phones with stub antennas now. So is Sprint.
    > >CDMA vs. GSM doesn't change the laws of physics.

    >
    > Examples? I just question why it is that every CDMA phone that *I*
    > have seen has a pull out whip antenna. I've not seen one that didn't.
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    > To send an email reply send to
    > GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com


    I'm looking at a Nokia 3585i in a Sprint ad this morning in the paper
    and it doesn't have a stub antenna or a pull out antenna.

    Mark

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  9. #39
    Group Special Mobile
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    Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors

    On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:47:35 -0000, [email protected] (Mark F) wrote:

    >Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote in article
    ><[email protected]>:
    >> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:33:37 GMT, "Mr. Magoo" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >In article <[email protected]>,
    >> > Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> But you will *never* see CDMA handsets with internal only antennas.
    >> >> They always have a telescoping antenna.
    >> >
    >> >Verizon is selling CDMA phones with stub antennas now. So is Sprint.
    >> >CDMA vs. GSM doesn't change the laws of physics.

    >>
    >> Examples? I just question why it is that every CDMA phone that *I*
    >> have seen has a pull out whip antenna. I've not seen one that didn't.
    >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >> To send an email reply send to
    >> GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com

    >
    >I'm looking at a Nokia 3585i in a Sprint ad this morning in the paper
    >and it doesn't have a stub antenna or a pull out antenna.


    Not according to nokiausa.com

    http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/3585i

    If you go to the user guide you most definitely see a pull out antenna
    in the right rear.
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    To send an email reply send to
    GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com



  10. #40
    Mark F
    Guest

    Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors

    Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:47:35 -0000, [email protected] (Mark F) wrote:
    >
    > >Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote in article
    > ><[email protected]>:
    > >> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:33:37 GMT, "Mr. Magoo" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >In article <[email protected]>,
    > >> > Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> But you will *never* see CDMA handsets with internal only antennas.
    > >> >> They always have a telescoping antenna.
    > >> >
    > >> >Verizon is selling CDMA phones with stub antennas now. So is Sprint.
    > >> >CDMA vs. GSM doesn't change the laws of physics.
    > >>
    > >> Examples? I just question why it is that every CDMA phone that *I*
    > >> have seen has a pull out whip antenna. I've not seen one that didn't.
    > >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    > >> To send an email reply send to
    > >> GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com

    > >
    > >I'm looking at a Nokia 3585i in a Sprint ad this morning in the paper
    > >and it doesn't have a stub antenna or a pull out antenna.

    >
    > Not according to nokiausa.com
    >
    > http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/3585i
    >
    > If you go to the user guide you most definitely see a pull out antenna
    > in the right rear.
    > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    > To send an email reply send to
    > GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com


    Yep...your right. Couldn't see it in the newpaper ad. I stand
    corrected.

    Mark

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  11. #41
    O/Siris
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    Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors

    Group Special Mobile wrote:
    > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 11:47:35 -0000, [email protected] (Mark F) wrote:
    >
    >> Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote in article
    >> <bd21mv471[email protected]>:
    >>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:33:37 GMT, "Mr. Magoo" <[email protected]>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> In article <[email protected]>,
    >>>> Group Special Mobile <[email protected]_to.reply> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> But you will *never* see CDMA handsets with internal only
    >>>>> antennas. They always have a telescoping antenna.
    >>>>
    >>>> Verizon is selling CDMA phones with stub antennas now. So is
    >>>> Sprint. CDMA vs. GSM doesn't change the laws of physics.
    >>>
    >>> Examples? I just question why it is that every CDMA phone that *I*
    >>> have seen has a pull out whip antenna. I've not seen one that
    >>> didn't. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    >>> To send an email reply send to
    >>> GSMthemobilestandard ( yahoo.com

    >>
    >> I'm looking at a Nokia 3585i in a Sprint ad this morning in the paper
    >> and it doesn't have a stub antenna or a pull out antenna.

    >
    > Not according to nokiausa.com
    >
    > http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/3585i
    >
    > If you go to the user guide you most definitely see a pull out antenna
    > in the right rear.


    Then look at the SE T608. No external antenna.
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    O/Siris
    I work for Sprint
    I *don't* speak for them





  12. #42
    Juan Pablo
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    Re: CDMA vs GSM indoors

    On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:27:37 GMT, James Knott
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Bill Radio wrote:
    >
    >> And the hapless Sprint (and Qwest and Alltel) Nokia 6185 might have been a
    >> better phone if it had a pull-out antenna.
    >>

    >
    >One thing that bugs me, is "fashion over function". I prefer a phone with
    >an external antenna, simply because it would likely be a better antenna
    >than an internal one. I want a phone that works well, not one that
    >sacrifices performance for style or gee whiz gadgets.


    Amen, 'Bro.
    As Alltel would say, 'You got THAT right!".



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