Question about Phillipe

Ok guys, I'm sorry to bring up such a can of worms here, but I have to
ask. I don't usually read this group; occasionally I'll pop in here
from sprintusers.com; but I've noticed this isn't the
alt.cellular.sprintpcs group anymore; instead it really seems like the
alt.cellular.hatephillipe group. I find it hard to come here and read
about Sprint because all the stuff about Phillipe.

So I guess my questions are:
1. Why do you guys all hate Phillipe?
2. If you hate him so much, why do you bother responding to any of his
posts?

I've noticed this posting about Phillipe has grown to be excessive over
the past month or two; and coming here to read and talk about Sprint is
less worth it.

No harm intended guys, I'm just curious.

-M-

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modma wrote:
> *Ok guys, I'm sorry to bring up such a can of worms here, but I have
> to ask. I don't usually read this group; occasionally I'll pop in
> here from sprintusers.com; but I've noticed this isn't the
> alt.cellular.sprintpcs group anymore; instead it really seems like
> the alt.cellular.hatephillipe group. I find it hard to come here and
> read about Sprint because all the stuff about Phillipe.
>
> So I guess my questions are:
> 1. Why do you guys all hate Phillipe?
> 2. If you hate him so much, why do you bother responding to any of
> his posts?
>
> I've noticed this posting about Phillipe has grown to be excessive
> over the past month or two; and coming here to read and talk about
> Sprint is less worth it.
>
> No harm intended guys, I'm just curious.
>
> -M- *

I agree with you. Over the last month or so, this newsgroup has
deteriorated to nothing but a handful or people taunting and
antagonizing each other (and you know who you are). It's gotten out of
hand and it needs to stop. If certain people don't like each other,
fine. But let it go for the sake of everyone else who wants to get
info and talk about Sprint without having to read through those
people's petty arguments. Would you all please just give it a rest so
the rest of us don't have to deal with it? It seems like half of all
threads anymore are releated to the constant bickering. If you don't
like someone, don't talk to them. I swear, people were more mature
than this when I was in high school.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

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modma wrote:
> Ok guys, I'm sorry to bring up such a can of worms here, but I have
> to ask. I don't usually read this group; occasionally I'll pop in
> here from sprintusers.com; but I've noticed this isn't the
> alt.cellular.sprintpcs group anymore; instead it really seems like the
> alt.cellular.hatephillipe group. I find it hard to come here and read
> about Sprint because all the stuff about Phillipe.
>
> So I guess my questions are:
> 1. Why do you guys all hate Phillipe?

I don't hate him. I refuse to accept his false "quotes" of those to whom he
responds when he disagrees. It's so consistent it's got to be deliberate,
and therefore dishonest. But, when he's not creating those false quotes, he
can be quite reasonable, and I've said so on several occasions.

> 2. If you hate him so much, why do you bother responding to any of his
> posts?

Same reason above. He's proven he's *capable* of discussion. But disagree
with his pronouncements from on high, and you'll find all sorts of new and
imaginative meanings assigned to what you say. I'm an eternal optimist, and
keep hoping for the former, and not the latter.

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O/Siris
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I *don't* speak for them

"O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote in message
news:nlb8b.423387$uu5.76627@sccrnsc04...
> modma wrote:
> > Ok guys, I'm sorry to bring up such a can of worms here, but I have
> > to ask. I don't usually read this group; occasionally I'll pop in
> > here from sprintusers.com; but I've noticed this isn't the
> > alt.cellular.sprintpcs group anymore; instead it really seems like the
> > alt.cellular.hatephillipe group. I find it hard to come here and read
> > about Sprint because all the stuff about Phillipe.
> >
> > So I guess my questions are:
> > 1. Why do you guys all hate Phillipe?
>
> I don't hate him. I refuse to accept his false "quotes" of those to whom
he
> responds when he disagrees. It's so consistent it's got to be deliberate,
> and therefore dishonest. But, when he's not creating those false quotes,
he
> can be quite reasonable, and I've said so on several occasions.


Rather like you creating false posts. I've seen you do this quite a bit.
Then you don't (more accurately CAN'T) back up your drivel with any
evidence. You just keep posting, calling people liars.



> > 2. If you hate him so much, why do you bother responding to any of his
> > posts?
>
> Same reason above. He's proven he's *capable* of discussion. But
disagree
> with his pronouncements from on high, and you'll find all sorts of new and
> imaginative meanings assigned to what you say. I'm an eternal optimist,
and
> keep hoping for the former, and not the latter.

You, on the other hand, are incapable of discussion. Want to list the
reasons 1900 MHz is better than 800 MHz? You made the claim. Oh, wait, all
you said was that Nextel's president made the claim, yet you can't quote
him.

You also posted that I received the discount I was supposed to receive,
proving you post when you don't know the facts AND you probably failed math.

C'mon, if you want to make an accusation, PROVE IT. But you don't. Just
keep posting your drivel.

What is that, three lies today? Well, that's 3 extra days I'll have to stay
here and make people aware of your lies.

Here we go again, we are trying to end the bickering and it
continues......... The thread started on a good note and there were
pleas to stop the bickering, but yet, even in this thread it exists.

Modma and 'Flyers:

I hope that this "forum" does not continue to suffer from the newsgroup
woes. I have enjoyed the help that I have received and given and like
many of the people here like Deval, Chrome18's, Manti, Yummi, DF, Kim,
CHAOS, Darkflight, Mkoso, Larry, Smitythepig, AnthroMatt, Ronkh,
Hibbt,Hatoncat and others. (sorry if I forgot anyone!)

I have enjoyed much of the conversation that these prople have
provided! Cant we all just get along?

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hhoffmeier wrote:
> *Here we go again, we are trying to end the bickering and it
> continues......... The thread started on a good note and there were
> pleas to stop the bickering, but yet, even in this thread it exists.
>
> Modma and 'Flyers:
>
> I hope that this "forum" does not continue to suffer from the
> newsgroup woes. I have enjoyed the help that I have received and
> given and like many of the people here like Deval, Chrome18's, Manti,
> Yummi, DF, Kim, CHAOS, Darkflight, Mkoso, Larry, Smitythepig,
> AnthroMatt, Ronkh, Hibbt,Hatoncat and others. (sorry if I forgot
> anyone!)
>
> I have enjoyed much of the conversation that these prople have
> provided! Cant we all just get along? *

I wish we could. I don't see this kind of childish antagonism in other
forums like SprintUsers and Hofo. Because of all this nonsense,
SprintUsers might not include this newsgroup anymore in its list of
forums and searches. That shows how ridiculous this has gotten. It's
turned into one giant b**itch fest around here instead of people trying
to help each other.

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In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> Rather like you creating false posts. I've seen you do this quite a bit.
> Then you don't (more accurately CAN'T) back up your drivel with any
> evidence. You just keep posting, calling people liars.
>=20

Show me one, then. Nah, that's factual stuff, and you don't go there.
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O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

"RØß Vargas" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Rather like you creating false posts. I've seen you do this quite a bit.
> Then you don't (more accurately CAN'T) back up your drivel with any
> evidence. You just keep posting, calling people liars.
>

Show me one, then. Nah, that's factual stuff, and you don't go there.
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O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.


Show you one? Here's a BIG one:

> Justin wrote:
> In addition, I wasn't given the full, "as-advertised" discount. I
> was only given $100 off of each phone.

Yes you were. That *was* the discount at the time you bought them. They
were $30 cheaper MSRP, and $30 less in discount.
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Care to discuss THAT lie?

letsgoflyers81 wrote:
> *Because of all this nonsense, SprintUsers might not include this
> newsgroup anymore in its list of forums and searches. That shows how
> ridiculous this has gotten. It's turned into one giant b*itch
> fest around here instead of people trying to help each other.

You know I really think not including all of this "***** fest" on
SprintUsers would be for the best. I am tired of all this crap showing
up there as I'm sure alot of the other forum memebers are. It doesn't
really appear that the ***** fest "members" care too much what happens
so I say just do away with them on SU and leave them to themselves in
their newsgroup to continue with their childish arguments.
Dave

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]=20
says...
> Care to discuss THAT lie?
>=20

No lie to discuss. Was I wrong? Yup. Unlike you, Justin, I don't have=20
a problem admitting that.

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O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

"RØß Vargas" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Care to discuss THAT lie?
>

No lie to discuss. Was I wrong? Yup. Unlike you, Justin, I don't have
a problem admitting that.

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O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

Yes you WERE wrong. You said that I received the correct discount. I did
not. You lied, posting drivel you couldn't verify or back up.

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]=20
says...
> Yes you WERE wrong. You said that I received the correct discount. I di=
d
> not. You lied, posting drivel you couldn't verify or back up.
>=20

No, you *did* receive the correct discount. You did not go in as a=20
retail customer. If you had, the discount would have been available as=20
a mailin rebate. You got the biggest instant rebate *you* had=20
available, since you were not activating new lines. You were not=20
eligible for the $130 rebate under the conditions you had in effect at=20
the time.

BTW, that *is* a different argument. You were undergoing tech support=20
issues. Those never qualify for retail rebates.

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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

"O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Yes you WERE wrong. You said that I received the correct discount. I did
> not. You lied, posting drivel you couldn't verify or back up.
>

No, you *did* receive the correct discount. You did not go in as a
retail customer. If you had, the discount would have been available as
a mailin rebate. You got the biggest instant rebate *you* had
available, since you were not activating new lines. You were not
eligible for the $130 rebate under the conditions you had in effect at
the time.

BTW, that *is* a different argument. You were undergoing tech support
issues. Those never qualify for retail rebates.


Then please tell my why I was signed up for a 2 year contract without my
permission.

modma wrote:

> I've noticed this posting about Phillipe has grown to be excessive over
> the past month or two; and coming here to read and talk about Sprint is
> less worth it.

Unfortuantely, this is true. It looks Phillipe has succeeded somewhat
in his trolling where others have failed int he past; he really has
turned this grup upside down.

Fortuantely, there is a solution: killfile. I actually fired mine up
for the first time. And now, the group is readable again.