Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability

Yes. Should VZW already be ready (speculation) they would be
essentially saying they are technologically ready to release (for those
leaving) and receive (for those coming in) the ported number.

--
Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user


"Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
> "P Howard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > It is already posted on these newsgroups. In VZW's challenge to their
> > competition regarding further attempts to delay LNP, they have cited
> > their new call center which has been built specifically for LNP... they
> > have already hired customer service reps for that call center and are
> > training them now. In addition, one of my business contacts is a store
> > manager for VZW, and he mentioned monthly mandatory online trainings for
> > all of their employees that has been going on since June, as well as new
> > procedures in their POS systems marked porting or something to that
> > effect.
> >
> > --
> > Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user
>
> How does this all work? If Verizon is the only one ready (speculation) and
> they allow someone to take a number, can they actually take the number if
> the other carrier is just going to assign them a new number? Do both
> carriers have to be ready?
>
>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

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In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> How does this all work? If Verizon is the only one ready (speculation) a=
nd
> they allow someone to take a number, can they actually take the number if
> the other carrier is just going to assign them a new number? Do both
> carriers have to be ready?
>=20

Short story: You go to the carrier *to* whom you want to switch and=20
tell them you want to bring your number over from, for example, Sprint. =20
Takes a few days to accomplish the switchover. During that time, we are=20
prohibited by the FCC from trying to "save" you. It's not irreversible,=20
but if you try this as a bargaining maneuver, it won't work. We're not=20
allowed to treat it that way.

The billing stuff is still up in the air. The disagreement between=20
Sprint and the FCC has already been reported. But above is the basic=20
idea. You don't contact your current provider to move your number. You=20
contact the one you're moving to, and they carry out the move.

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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

"O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> How does this all work? If Verizon is the only one ready (speculation)
and
> they allow someone to take a number, can they actually take the number if
> the other carrier is just going to assign them a new number? Do both
> carriers have to be ready?
>

Short story: You go to the carrier *to* whom you want to switch and
tell them you want to bring your number over from, for example, Sprint.
Takes a few days to accomplish the switchover. During that time, we are
prohibited by the FCC from trying to "save" you. It's not irreversible,
but if you try this as a bargaining maneuver, it won't work. We're not
allowed to treat it that way.

The billing stuff is still up in the air. The disagreement between
Sprint and the FCC has already been reported. But above is the basic
idea. You don't contact your current provider to move your number. You
contact the one you're moving to, and they carry out the move.

--
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RŘß
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

Thanks.

"Justin Green" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > How does this all work? If Verizon is the only one ready (speculation)
> and
> > they allow someone to take a number, can they actually take the number
if
> > the other carrier is just going to assign them a new number? Do both
> > carriers have to be ready?
> >
>
> Short story: You go to the carrier *to* whom you want to switch and
> tell them you want to bring your number over from, for example, Sprint.
> Takes a few days to accomplish the switchover. During that time, we are
> prohibited by the FCC from trying to "save" you. It's not irreversible,
> but if you try this as a bargaining maneuver, it won't work. We're not
> allowed to treat it that way.
>
> The billing stuff is still up in the air. The disagreement between
> Sprint and the FCC has already been reported. But above is the basic
> idea. You don't contact your current provider to move your number. You
> contact the one you're moving to, and they carry out the move.

One thing that concerns me is the possiblity of slamming. What keeps me
from taking 555-333-3333 and switching it from say, ATT to VZ?

In article <[email protected]>,
"Terry Knab" <[email protected]> wrote:

> One thing that concerns me is the possiblity of slamming. What keeps me
> from taking 555-333-3333 and switching it from say, ATT to VZ?

You'd know it instantly when your phone stopped working. So its not
likely to happen.

> > "O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> > > How does this all work? If Verizon is the only one ready (speculation)
> > and
> > > they allow someone to take a number, can they actually take the number
> if
> > > the other carrier is just going to assign them a new number? Do both
> > > carriers have to be ready?
> > >
> >
> > Short story: You go to the carrier *to* whom you want to switch and
> > tell them you want to bring your number over from, for example, Sprint.
> > Takes a few days to accomplish the switchover. During that time, we are
> > prohibited by the FCC from trying to "save" you. It's not irreversible,
> > but if you try this as a bargaining maneuver, it won't work. We're not
> > allowed to treat it that way.
> >
> > The billing stuff is still up in the air. The disagreement between
> > Sprint and the FCC has already been reported. But above is the basic
> > idea. You don't contact your current provider to move your number. You
> > contact the one you're moving to, and they carry out the move.

Up in the air is the way only a diehard Sprint apologist would put it.
The FCC has mandated, "if someone wants to go you will let them".
Sprint refuses to go along with the rules.

"Terry Knab" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> One thing that concerns me is the possiblity of slamming. What keeps me
> from taking 555-333-3333 and switching it from say, ATT to VZ?
>

Slamming like that would be very easy to figure out for you, and
difficult for the slammer to conduct. Your phone would stop working.

On the company's side, they'd need your ESN and MIN. The MIN (phone
number) would be easier of the two to get. The ESN (serial number)
would be difficult, since the providers don't give that information out
freely, and I doubt most consumers would, too.

On your end, the phone would have to be re-programmed, if the slammer
used the same technology as your previous (legit) carrier. CDMA
carriers generally don't allow other company's phones to work on their
systems for a number of reasons.

Also, there is the whole CDMA, TDMA, GSM issue where a SprintPCS phone
will flat out not work on a GSM service provider's network.

As for taking your number, I would hope the carriers are placing
safeguards in place so you'll have to sign something (with ID?) in a
store to release your n umber.

[posted via phonescoop.com]

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> Up in the air is the way only a diehard Sprint apologist would put it.
> The FCC has mandated, "if someone wants to go you will let them".
> Sprint refuses to go along with the rules.
>=20

Sprint is saying it's not mandated, only a guideline. That's the=20
disagreement.

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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

PHil_Real <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > > "O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > [email protected] says...
> > > > How does this all work? If Verizon is the only one ready (speculation)
> and
> > > > they allow someone to take a number, can they actually take the number
> if
> > > > the other carrier is just going to assign them a new number? Do both
> > > > carriers have to be ready?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Short story: You go to the carrier *to* whom you want to switch and
> > > tell them you want to bring your number over from, for example, Sprint.
> > > Takes a few days to accomplish the switchover. During that time, we are
> > > prohibited by the FCC from trying to "save" you. It's not irreversible,
> > > but if you try this as a bargaining maneuver, it won't work. We're not
> > > allowed to treat it that way.
> > >
> > > The billing stuff is still up in the air. The disagreement between
> > > Sprint and the FCC has already been reported. But above is the basic
> > > idea. You don't contact your current provider to move your number. You
> > > contact the one you're moving to, and they carry out the move.
>
> Up in the air is the way only a diehard Sprint apologist would put it.
> The FCC has mandated, "if someone wants to go you will let them".
> Sprint refuses to go along with the rules.

If that is true why does Phil keep changing his name and id? Guess
all he does is rant about Sprint. FYI, Sprint hasn't refused to go
along (contrary to what Rhil, or whatever he wants to call himself
now). The billing issue has also been brought up by VERIZON (in fact,
they were the FIRST company to try this, before they did their 180 and
then start attempting to paint Sprint, AT&T, Cingular, and others in a
bad light. In fact, when Verizon was asked by AT&T recently to test,
THEY refused (but AT&T didn't do a press release on it like Verizon).
So who is not wanting to go along?????? Maybe Phil will reveal why he
has to consistantly change his name (guess he doesn't want people to
know he REALLY doesn't know what he is talking about since all he does
is RANT).

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Ric) wrote:

> If that is true why does Phil.. Guess
> all he does is rant about Sprint.

There you go. Make Phil the issue. can't counter the facts that
SprintPCS has REAL problems. Don;'t like the message, attack the
messenger.

Still doesn't make SprintPCS profitable, or raise its JD Power ratings.

PHil_Real <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > > "O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > [email protected] says...
> > > > How does this all work? If Verizon is the only one ready (speculation)
> and
> > > > they allow someone to take a number, can they actually take the number
> if
> > > > the other carrier is just going to assign them a new number? Do both
> > > > carriers have to be ready?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Short story: You go to the carrier *to* whom you want to switch and
> > > tell them you want to bring your number over from, for example, Sprint.
> > > Takes a few days to accomplish the switchover. During that time, we are
> > > prohibited by the FCC from trying to "save" you. It's not irreversible,
> > > but if you try this as a bargaining maneuver, it won't work. We're not
> > > allowed to treat it that way.
> > >
> > > The billing stuff is still up in the air. The disagreement between
> > > Sprint and the FCC has already been reported. But above is the basic
> > > idea. You don't contact your current provider to move your number. You
> > > contact the one you're moving to, and they carry out the move.
>
> Up in the air is the way only a diehard Sprint apologist would put it.
> The FCC has mandated, "if someone wants to go you will let them".
> Sprint refuses to go along with the rules.

Phil doesn't know what he is talking (ranting) about. Since he won't
even use one name (PHil Real, P Reality, among others) but keeps
changing his id I wouldn't trust ANYTHING he posts, regardless of
carrior or position (positive or negative).

"Ric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> PHil_Real <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > > > "O/Siris" <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > > [email protected] says...
> > > > > How does this all work? If Verizon is the only one ready
(speculation)
> > and
> > > > > they allow someone to take a number, can they actually take the
number
> > if
> > > > > the other carrier is just going to assign them a new number? Do
both
> > > > > carriers have to be ready?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Short story: You go to the carrier *to* whom you want to switch and
> > > > tell them you want to bring your number over from, for example,
Sprint.
> > > > Takes a few days to accomplish the switchover. During that time, we
are
> > > > prohibited by the FCC from trying to "save" you. It's not
irreversible,
> > > > but if you try this as a bargaining maneuver, it won't work. We're
not
> > > > allowed to treat it that way.
> > > >
> > > > The billing stuff is still up in the air. The disagreement between
> > > > Sprint and the FCC has already been reported. But above is the
basic
> > > > idea. You don't contact your current provider to move your number.
You
> > > > contact the one you're moving to, and they carry out the move.
> >
> > Up in the air is the way only a diehard Sprint apologist would put it.
> > The FCC has mandated, "if someone wants to go you will let them".
> > Sprint refuses to go along with the rules.
>
> Phil doesn't know what he is talking (ranting) about. Since he won't
> even use one name (PHil Real, P Reality, among others) but keeps
> changing his id I wouldn't trust ANYTHING he posts, regardless of
> carrior or position (positive or negative).

But you'll trust Rob, who doesn't even know how cell phone technology works,
contradicts himself concerning Sprint policies, and stalks people into other
forums.

<<But you'll trust Rob, who doesn't even know how cell phone technology
works, contradicts himself concerning Sprint policies, and stalks people
into other forums. >>

No, I think he just means that he wouldn't trust someone who changes
their username three times in less than two weeks with no explanation as
to why.

Eric

"Eric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <<But you'll trust Rob, who doesn't even know how cell phone technology
> works, contradicts himself concerning Sprint policies, and stalks people
> into other forums. >>
>
> No, I think he just means that he wouldn't trust someone who changes
> their username three times in less than two weeks with no explanation as
> to why.
>
> Eric

Gotcha.

Eric wrote:

> <<But you'll trust Rob, who doesn't even know how cell phone technology
> works, contradicts himself concerning Sprint policies, and stalks people
> into other forums. >>
>
> No, I think he just means that he wouldn't trust someone who changes
> their username three times in less than two weeks with no explanation as
> to why.
>
> Eric
>

He changes his id all the time so people who have killfiled him can see
his posts. He doesn't understand that people who have him killfiled
don't want to talk to him anymore. He should be happy that way people
who would normally talk back and start a fight with him won't because
they can't see what he says. But he has to constantly instigate
responses from people.

Here's a tip Phil. If you leave people alone, they'll leave you alone.
Yes there will be a few guys out there that may keep saying things
about you for a couple of weeks, but I gurantee you if you stop fighting
with people on the board people will stop fighting with you. So show
you're the bigger man and stop.

BTW "On the Internet, a troll is a person who posts messages that create
controversy or an angry response without adding content to the
discussion, often intentionally. Though technically different from
flaming, which is an unmistakable direct personal attack, trolls often
resort to innuendo or misdirection in the pursuit of their objective,
which is to create controversy for its own sake, discredit those with
whom they disagree, or sabotage discussion by creating an intimidating
atmosphere."

quote from http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
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