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- 09-11-2003, 05:00 PM #1P RealityGuest
http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030910/telec...ireless_1.html
Verizon Wireless has been virtually alone in actively supporting number
portability, even though its rivals have said they are ready to
implement it by the Nov. 24 deadline.
The Bedminster, New Jersey-based company said Alltel Corp. (NYSE:AT -
News), AT&T Wireless Services Inc. (NYSE:AWE - News), Cingular Wireless,
Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:NXTL - News) and Sprint PCS Group
(NYSE:PCS - News) were making it difficult to switch.
Verizon Wireless said those companies were unwilling to consider testing
number portability between the operators to ensure that the service will
work.
==============
This news story gives the Verizon spin. Up till recently Verizon lead
the battle against portability, now it is playing white knight, hoping
it has the most to gain from portability.
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- 09-11-2003, 05:45 PM #2William BrayGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
This is propaganda. The FCC has selected AT&T and Cingular for the
first tests. Small outfits are fighting number portability as it is
literally too much for their systems to handle. VZN just wants more
customers.
P Reality <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030910/telec...ireless_1.html
>
>
> Verizon Wireless has been virtually alone in actively supporting number
> portability, even though its rivals have said they are ready to
> implement it by the Nov. 24 deadline.
>
> The Bedminster, New Jersey-based company said Alltel Corp. (NYSE:AT -
> News), AT&T Wireless Services Inc. (NYSE:AWE - News), Cingular Wireless,
> Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:NXTL - News) and Sprint PCS Group
> (NYSE:PCS - News) were making it difficult to switch.
>
> Verizon Wireless said those companies were unwilling to consider testing
> number portability between the operators to ensure that the service will
> work.
>
>
> ==============
>
>
> This news story gives the Verizon spin. Up till recently Verizon lead
> the battle against portability, now it is playing white knight, hoping
> it has the most to gain from portability.
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-11-2003, 06:15 PM #3p laneGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
All these companies have had 1-2 years of stalling, etc. Although sprint
may not be very speedy in implementing the portability their billing
department is very efficient at charging for it prior to implementation.
It seems that verizon has the most to gain by prompt implementation, the
others lose less by being slower, seems like they all are doing what is
in the best interest of themselves---so what else is new.
[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> This is propaganda. The FCC has selected AT&T and Cingular for the
> first tests. Small outfits are fighting number portability as it is
> literally too much for their systems to handle. VZN just wants more
> customers.
>
> P Reality <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030910/telec...ireless_1.html
> >
> >
> > Verizon Wireless has been virtually alone in actively supporting number
> > portability, even though its rivals have said they are ready to
> > implement it by the Nov. 24 deadline.
> >
> > The Bedminster, New Jersey-based company said Alltel Corp. (NYSE:AT -
> > News), AT&T Wireless Services Inc. (NYSE:AWE - News), Cingular Wireless,
> > Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:NXTL - News) and Sprint PCS Group
> > (NYSE:PCS - News) were making it difficult to switch.
> >
> > Verizon Wireless said those companies were unwilling to consider testing
> > number portability between the operators to ensure that the service will
> > work.
> >
> >
> > ==============
> >
> >
> > This news story gives the Verizon spin. Up till recently Verizon lead
> > the battle against portability, now it is playing white knight, hoping
> > it has the most to gain from portability.
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-11-2003, 06:27 PM #4JustinGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
"P Reality" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030910/telec...ireless_1.html
>
>
> Verizon Wireless has been virtually alone in actively supporting number
> portability, even though its rivals have said they are ready to
> implement it by the Nov. 24 deadline.
>
> The Bedminster, New Jersey-based company said Alltel Corp. (NYSE:AT -
> News), AT&T Wireless Services Inc. (NYSE:AWE - News), Cingular Wireless,
> Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:NXTL - News) and Sprint PCS Group
> (NYSE:PCS - News) were making it difficult to switch.
>
> Verizon Wireless said those companies were unwilling to consider testing
> number portability between the operators to ensure that the service will
> work.
>
>
> ==============
>
>
> This news story gives the Verizon spin. Up till recently Verizon lead
> the battle against portability, now it is playing white knight, hoping
> it has the most to gain from portability.
How long have the carriers been charging customers for this?
- 09-11-2003, 07:07 PM #5MaokhGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
heheheh....seems soo childish.
Verizon is "telling on" sprint and cingular because they did it on
PURPOSE for NO REASON.
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- 09-11-2003, 10:04 PM #6O/SirisGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
P Reality wrote:
>
> Verizon Wireless has been virtually alone in actively supporting
> number portability, even though its rivals have said they are ready to
> implement it by the Nov. 24 deadline.
That's not *entirely* accurate. While they've done a 180 recently, and now
claim to fully support it, they were, in fact, the ones who initiated the
court cases against WLNP in the first place.
--
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RØß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint
I *don't* speak for them
- 09-11-2003, 10:05 PM #7O/SirisGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
P Reality wrote:
<snip>
> ==============
>
>
> This news story gives the Verizon spin. Up till recently Verizon lead
> the battle against portability, now it is playing white knight, hoping
> it has the most to gain from portability.
Dang, Philly, props on that. I misread that the first time and thought you
were agreeing. You're right.
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RØß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint
I *don't* speak for them
- 09-12-2003, 03:54 AM #8SprintposterGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
> The FCC has selected AT&T and Cingular for the
> first tests.
You have an URL for that?
- 09-12-2003, 05:40 AM #9P RealityGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
In article <[email protected]>,
"Justin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "P Reality" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030910/telec...ireless_1.html
> >
> >
> > Verizon Wireless has been virtually alone in actively supporting number
> > portability, even though its rivals have said they are ready to
> > implement it by the Nov. 24 deadline.
> >
> > The Bedminster, New Jersey-based company said Alltel Corp. (NYSE:AT -
> > News), AT&T Wireless Services Inc. (NYSE:AWE - News), Cingular Wireless,
> > Nextel Communications Inc. (NasdaqNM:NXTL - News) and Sprint PCS Group
> > (NYSE:PCS - News) were making it difficult to switch.
> >
> > Verizon Wireless said those companies were unwilling to consider testing
> > number portability between the operators to ensure that the service will
> > work.
> >
> >
> > ==============
> >
> >
> > This news story gives the Verizon spin. Up till recently Verizon lead
> > the battle against portability, now it is playing white knight, hoping
> > it has the most to gain from portability.
>
> How long have the carriers been charging customers for this?
Sprint and Nextel for 2 months now, Verizon not at all, what about AT&T
Justin?
- 09-12-2003, 07:00 AM #10Jerome ZelinskeGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
I think verizon is so anxious for interoperator testing because
they do not hve theirs working right and hope to learn from those that
have, how to do it.
O/Siris wrote:
> P Reality wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>==============
>>
>>
>>This news story gives the Verizon spin. Up till recently Verizon lead
>>the battle against portability, now it is playing white knight, hoping
>>it has the most to gain from portability.
>
>
> Dang, Philly, props on that. I misread that the first time and thought you
> were agreeing. You're right.
- 09-12-2003, 07:53 AM #11P HowardGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
I have heard things myself that are quite to the contrary of what Jerome
says below. That VZW's porting is up and running already. Then
again... we're both only speculating...
--
Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user
Jerome Zelinske <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> I think verizon is so anxious for interoperator testing because
> they do not hve theirs working right and hope to learn from those that
> have, how to do it.
>
>
> O/Siris wrote:
>
> > P Reality wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>==============
> >>
> >>
> >>This news story gives the Verizon spin. Up till recently Verizon lead
> >>the battle against portability, now it is playing white knight, hoping
> >>it has the most to gain from portability.
> >
> >
> > Dang, Philly, props on that. I misread that the first time and thought you
> > were agreeing. You're right.
>
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- 09-12-2003, 08:56 AM #12P RealityGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (P Howard) wrote:
> I have heard things myself that are quite to the contrary of what Jerome
> says below. That VZW's porting is up and running already. Then
> again... we're both only speculating...
and a URL for that is.........
- 09-12-2003, 11:10 AM #13Cell AcademicianGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
[email protected] (p lane) wrote in article
> It seems that verizon has the most to gain by prompt implementation, the
> others lose less by being slower, seems like they all are doing what is
> in the best interest of themselves---so what else is new.
Partially true.
The studies all show that Verizon will gain the most
by LNP, which is why they are now the lone carrier
promoting it (as well as for the good publicity it
brings them).
Where Verizon is really on target is in taking the other
carriers to task for the outrageous fees they are adding
to their bills under the guise that the fees are to pay for
LNP. Verizon charges no fee, and has said that if they
do decide to charge one then it will reflect the actual cost
of implementing LNP, which they say will be covered by
15-25 cents per month per subscriber.
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-12-2003, 12:38 PM #14P HowardGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
It is already posted on these newsgroups. In VZW's challenge to their
competition regarding further attempts to delay LNP, they have cited
their new call center which has been built specifically for LNP... they
have already hired customer service reps for that call center and are
training them now. In addition, one of my business contacts is a store
manager for VZW, and he mentioned monthly mandatory online trainings for
all of their employees that has been going on since June, as well as new
procedures in their POS systems marked porting or something to that
effect.
--
Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user
P Reality <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (P Howard) wrote:
>
> > I have heard things myself that are quite to the contrary of what Jerome
> > says below. That VZW's porting is up and running already. Then
> > again... we're both only speculating...
>
> and a URL for that is.........
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-12-2003, 12:56 PM #15JustinGuest
Re: Verizon says Sprint, Cingular drag heels on Number portability
"P Howard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is already posted on these newsgroups. In VZW's challenge to their
> competition regarding further attempts to delay LNP, they have cited
> their new call center which has been built specifically for LNP... they
> have already hired customer service reps for that call center and are
> training them now. In addition, one of my business contacts is a store
> manager for VZW, and he mentioned monthly mandatory online trainings for
> all of their employees that has been going on since June, as well as new
> procedures in their POS systems marked porting or something to that
> effect.
>
> --
> Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user
How does this all work? If Verizon is the only one ready (speculation) and
they allow someone to take a number, can they actually take the number if
the other carrier is just going to assign them a new number? Do both
carriers have to be ready?
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