CUT THE CRAP!!!

VZW Guy wrote:
>
> Of couse no one even read the topic of the thread..becuz all of ya'll
> are STILL arguing.. Cut it Out! all of you!!!

Justin, Phillipe, Rob, Etc., Etc., Etc. -

You can add one more person, not only in this newsgroup,
but, I'd imagine, also in life, to the list of people
that you've managed to alienate.

Best of luck.

I'm outa here...

Larry

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"Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Bob, you do have a bad memory. I stopped after YOU suggested that I
do so.
> I politely quit posting and went to the ATTWS thread.

It was appreciated, but you came back to do what?

Rob CONTINUED to
> post, calling me a liar in the sprintpcs forum AND went to the ATTWS
forum
> to start ****.

Uh, wasn't he in that forum before you, and didn't he agree with one
of your posts as well?
>
> That was the first time I offered to drop the entire thing. Sorry
Bob, your
> bigotry is showing.

Wrong terminology ... I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but I
believe you meant to say bias or prejudice is showing, which it's not
.... Look, we are all tired of seeing the arguments you and Phillippe
like to start. You folks certainly aren't offering much advice to
those folks here, just a lot of bickering posts. Well, I should
correct myself here, as Phillippe does provide some good info on
occasion.

I'll say one thing. Before you two folks showed up, this was a much
more pleasant place to visit, to read and to try to help those with
questions or concerns, and I'm betting my last dollar that every long
term poster here will agree with me 100%

Bob

In article <[email protected]>,
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was talking about the arguments between the two of them. As
> mentioned ... Rob has stopped, but Justin keeps arguing ... going and
> going and going ... like that damned drumming bunny ...
>
> Bob

Then either KILL file him or ignore him if it bothers you.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (VZW Guy) wrote:

>
> Of couse no one even read the topic of the thread..becuz all of ya'll
> are STILL arguing.. Cut it Out! all of you!!!

If we got the apologists to stop trying to be moderators, that might
make some threads shorter.

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Bob, you do have a bad memory. I stopped after YOU suggested that I
> do so.
> > I politely quit posting and went to the ATTWS thread.
>
> It was appreciated, but you came back to do what?
>
> Rob CONTINUED to
> > post, calling me a liar in the sprintpcs forum AND went to the ATTWS
> forum
> > to start ****.
>
> Uh, wasn't he in that forum before you, and didn't he agree with one
> of your posts as well?
> >
> > That was the first time I offered to drop the entire thing. Sorry
> Bob, your
> > bigotry is showing.
>
> Wrong terminology ... I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but I
> believe you meant to say bias or prejudice is showing, which it's not
> ... Look, we are all tired of seeing the arguments you and Phillippe
> like to start.

I didn't ****ing start the ones with Rob, BOB.

Please don't make me repost the posts where I said I would drop it, the
threads where Rob didn't, and the threads where Rob followed me over to
ATTWS to START yet another fight. Ok, perhaps that was the wrong
terminology... Your BIAS is definitely showing.

>You folks certainly aren't offering much advice to
> those folks here, just a lot of bickering posts. Well, I should
> correct myself here, as Phillippe does provide some good info on
> occasion.

Better no advice than wrong advice.

> I'll say one thing. Before you two folks showed up, this was a much
> more pleasant place to visit, to read and to try to help those with
> questions or concerns, and I'm betting my last dollar that every long
> term poster here will agree with me 100%
>
> Bob
>


And it can be a pleasant forum once again as soon as Rob acknowledges he was
wrong and apologizes.

I'm just sick of seeing it.. and no I cant killfile anyone becuz im
going through phonescoop.

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"Phill." <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (VZW Guy) wrote:
>
> >
> > Of couse no one even read the topic of the thread..becuz all of ya'll
> > are STILL arguing.. Cut it Out! all of you!!!
>
> If we got the apologists to stop trying to be moderators, that might
> make some threads shorter.

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"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Phill. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > If we got the apologists to stop trying to be moderators, that might
> > make some threads shorter.
>
> (a) I *****ed out both Rob and Justin. I'm not taking sides.
> (b) Count the number of posts where I've asked them both to drop the
> argument, versus the number of posts from both of them.
>
>
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(c) Examine to whom he responds when making such requests.

Phill. <[email protected]> wrote:

> If we got the apologists to stop trying to be moderators, that might
> make some threads shorter.

(a) I *****ed out both Rob and Justin. I'm not taking sides.
(b) Count the number of posts where I've asked them both to drop the
argument, versus the number of posts from both of them.



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Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

> And the idiots are the ones standing around ignorng the name caller, then
> getting pissed at the name callee when he does something about it.

Are you going to claim you didn't get the e-mail I resent to you, that my
mail server says it succesfully delivered (again)? The one addressed to
_both_ of you?


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"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > And the idiots are the ones standing around ignorng the name caller,
then
> > getting pissed at the name callee when he does something about it.
>
> Are you going to claim you didn't get the e-mail I resent to you, that my
> mail server says it succesfully delivered (again)? The one addressed to
> _both_ of you?
>
>
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No, I got it this time. Sometimes my anti-Spam software acts up. Has
nothing to do with the fact that you're still showing your bias in your
postings here.

Phillipe wrote:

<<Then either KILL file him or ignore him if it bothers you. >>

This is hilarious coming from someone who has changed his
screenname/login name about five times to avoid other peoples'
killfiles.

Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

> (c) Examine to whom he responds when making such requests.

Yes, you're right. I've been following up to your posts, not Rob's.

The fact remains that I've asked both of you to stop.


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Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

> No, I got it this time. Sometimes my anti-Spam software acts up. Has
> nothing to do with the fact that you're still showing your bias in your
> postings here.

Alright Justin - I apologize for not posting my request as a followup to Rob
too. I'll agree that maybe that does make me look biased. But having read
some of your followups to people other than Rob - my god, Justin, *I'm* the
biggest hothead I know and I don't ***** out people anywhere near as much as
you have been. My whole point is - is Rob right? Probably not. Are you?
Probably not. This whole argument could have been done a long time ago, and
I find fault with both of you. For that matter, I find fault with Bob Smith,
Tom Veldhouse and everyone else who's continued to argue with you too. I don't
see what the point is, besides cluttering up the newsgroup with lots of
posts that don't need to be posted.

But you and the idiot who claims he's a college professor (that'd be Foolippe)
are very quick to jump on anyone who says "enough" and label them,
alternately, an apologist or someone who is taking Rob's side. Some of us
simply don't care who's right and want to see the arguments stop, and yes, I
think your retort "plonk me" is obnoxious and childish. Besides, although I
sometimes plonk threads, I generally don't plonk people except in very
extreme circumstances (I've only plonked a poster once in 14 years of posting
to Usenet).

You are capable of intelligent conversation. I know this because I've seem
intelligent conversation from you. Do I want to see you leave? No. Do I want
to plonk you? No. Am I saying other people aren't being jerks towards you?
No. Am I saying that it's pointless to hold out for apologies like you are,
while continuing to argue with people? Yes. I've been in the same situation
as you, arguing arguments that I might be able to win if the person on the
otherside wasn't a raving loon. At that point, you just have to cut your
losses and take comfort in the fact that you're wrong and the other guy is
a moron.

Have you done that? No. That's what has gotten me so irritated; that and
your insistence that everyone has to listen to you. No, some people can't
use killfiles, and aren't necessarily in a position to upgrade their connection
to Usenet for whatever reason. Forcing others to listen to your message is
something I'd expect from a spammer, and I've seen nothing to indicate that
you are a spammer.

I will stand by my opinion of you being a self-centered jerk, but I can be
convinced to change my mind... I've been wrong before. Try to drop this whole
war you have going on with Rob. It doesn't mean you're wrong and he's right.


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"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > (c) Examine to whom he responds when making such requests.
>
> Yes, you're right. I've been following up to your posts, not Rob's.
>
> The fact remains that I've asked both of you to stop.
>
>
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Ok, sorry, can't do that.

"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > No, I got it this time. Sometimes my anti-Spam software acts up. Has
> > nothing to do with the fact that you're still showing your bias in your
> > postings here.
>
> Alright Justin - I apologize for not posting my request as a followup to
Rob
> too. I'll agree that maybe that does make me look biased. But having read
> some of your followups to people other than Rob - my god, Justin, *I'm*
the
> biggest hothead I know and I don't ***** out people anywhere near as much
as
> you have been. My whole point is - is Rob right? Probably not. Are you?
> Probably not. This whole argument could have been done a long time ago,
and
> I find fault with both of you. For that matter, I find fault with Bob
Smith,
> Tom Veldhouse and everyone else who's continued to argue with you too. I
don't
> see what the point is, besides cluttering up the newsgroup with lots of
> posts that don't need to be posted.
>
> But you and the idiot who claims he's a college professor (that'd be
Foolippe)
> are very quick to jump on anyone who says "enough" and label them,
> alternately, an apologist or someone who is taking Rob's side. Some of us
> simply don't care who's right and want to see the arguments stop, and yes,
I
> think your retort "plonk me" is obnoxious and childish. Besides, although
I
> sometimes plonk threads, I generally don't plonk people except in very
> extreme circumstances (I've only plonked a poster once in 14 years of
posting
> to Usenet).
>
> You are capable of intelligent conversation. I know this because I've seem
> intelligent conversation from you. Do I want to see you leave? No. Do I
want
> to plonk you? No. Am I saying other people aren't being jerks towards you?
> No. Am I saying that it's pointless to hold out for apologies like you
are,
> while continuing to argue with people? Yes. I've been in the same
situation
> as you, arguing arguments that I might be able to win if the person on the
> otherside wasn't a raving loon. At that point, you just have to cut your
> losses and take comfort in the fact that you're wrong and the other guy is
> a moron.
>
> Have you done that? No. That's what has gotten me so irritated; that and
> your insistence that everyone has to listen to you. No, some people can't
> use killfiles, and aren't necessarily in a position to upgrade their
connection
> to Usenet for whatever reason. Forcing others to listen to your message is
> something I'd expect from a spammer, and I've seen nothing to indicate
that
> you are a spammer.

I don't force anyone to listen to my message. They may have to read the
thread title. I don't change my name to avoid plonkers or filters. The
point is that twice I offered to drop the conversation, and Rob wouldn't.
So, now I'm not dropping it. It's really simple. Rob can post a sincere
apology, or he can list the things he claims I lied about and we can discuss
them. He has done neither, so I'll keep posting. And you're not the only
one who's exhibited double standards, so I really don't even feel sorry for
those who have to "wade" through this on phonescoop. If it makes me a self
centered jerk, I'm no more of one than Rob, who followed me to another
forum, or Bob, who nitpicks *****ing mistakes.

I also notice you guys keep harping on Phillipe to explain the name changes,
yet you want me to stop harping on Rob for not answering questions. How is
that not being hypocritical? I've seen you do it, Bob do it, and others.
Also Veldadick, who called me a liar then plonked me before I could respond.
He's an ass, too, but I didn't see you guys bashing him until he answered
the question I asked him.



>
> I will stand by my opinion of you being a self-centered jerk, but I can be
> convinced to change my mind... I've been wrong before. Try to drop this
whole
> war you have going on with Rob. It doesn't mean you're wrong and he's
right.
>
>
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Stand by your opinion, because I have intentionally become an ass (you call
it "self centered jerk"). And I'll stay an ass as long as Rob avoids
answering the questions or apologizing. After all, you guys harp on
Phillipe for not answering one question, and I've asked Rob many. Like I
said, Rob could end this today if he wanted.