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  1. #1
    Peter Pan
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    Don't ya just love it, some quack judge pulls this free speech crap, yet he
    totally ignores the fact that people can DIE because of his crap!

    Almost everyone with a phone line pays for emergency 911 service (or has
    lifeline service), yet he claims the free speech crap OVERRIDES the ability
    of customers to dial 911! (First amendment trumps the 4th, by the fact the
    phone line is tied up by telemarketers).

    For those that have security systems, that call the police or fire
    departments, those calls can not be made if the line is tied up by
    telemarketers!

    It is a service we PAY for (look at your phone bill, you PAY for emergency
    service) that is stolen from us by this judges stupid ruling.

    Lets find out if he has an alarm system, and the number for it, and keep it
    tied up with annoying calls so that it can't be used! That would fit in with
    his ruling, and I'm sure out of 50 million people affected by his stupidity,
    we can keep his lines tied up 24/7!

    Think about it, according to his ruling *WE* have the free speech right to
    tie up both his work and home phone lines!






    See More: Exercise your free speech rights!




  2. #2
    nogo
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Don't ya just love it, some quack judge pulls this free speech crap, yet he
    > totally ignores the fact that people can DIE because of his crap!
    >
    > Almost everyone with a phone line pays for emergency 911 service (or has
    > lifeline service), yet he claims the free speech crap OVERRIDES the ability
    > of customers to dial 911! (First amendment trumps the 4th, by the fact the
    > phone line is tied up by telemarketers).
    >
    > For those that have security systems, that call the police or fire
    > departments, those calls can not be made if the line is tied up by
    > telemarketers!
    >
    > It is a service we PAY for (look at your phone bill, you PAY for emergency
    > service) that is stolen from us by this judges stupid ruling.
    >
    > Lets find out if he has an alarm system, and the number for it, and keep it
    > tied up with annoying calls so that it can't be used! That would fit in with
    > his ruling, and I'm sure out of 50 million people affected by his stupidity,
    > we can keep his lines tied up 24/7!
    >
    > Think about it, according to his ruling *WE* have the free speech right to
    > tie up both his work and home phone lines!
    >
    >
    >
    >

    That's in the US right? I didn't realise an alt group = US! Who the hell
    cares in the bigger world. Your judge, your problem.

    Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you, saviours -
    I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!



  3. #3
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    "nogo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    <snipped>
    > Posted from Iraq where I have no water or power. Thank you,

    saviours -
    > I'll trade you oil for water. What, you don't want my oil!!!!


    Right now, we'd rather have Saddam. If you pony him up, I'm sure
    someone would be at your doorstep with a generator, and a water tank
    truck within an hour ...

    Bob





  4. #4
    Alex Mikey
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    You have a right to call him for a purpose. Calling for no reason, time
    and time again isn't covered under freedom of speech, it's covered under
    harrassment.

    Telemarketer's may harrass you, but until they do they have a right to
    call and ask if you'd like to buy random item A or B. Once they start
    harrassing you, it's a different story, but there's certainly no
    comparison to harrassing an appointed Judge for doing what he think's is
    'right'.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  5. #5
    Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    [email protected] wrote:

    >Not even a good try--
    >
    >NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc2-linc2-3-0-cust14.nott.cable.ntl.com
    >(81.96.179.14)


    And I thought I was the only one who has seen that :-))





    regards - Ralph

    --

    Want to get in touch? http://www.radio-link.net/whereisralph.txt



  6. #6
    Paco Sánchez
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    Sorry, no ofense intended, but unfortunately this is a very American
    decision: put the rights of corporations and capitalism in first place, then
    people rights... if any.

    --
    Paco Sánchez
    http://www.pacosanchez.com
    mailtosanchez%40pacosanchez%2ecom





  7. #7
    Colby Karrington
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    [email protected] (Paul Z. Delgado) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:

    > And besides that, despite problems in foreign lands, we here in the US
    > do (or maybe SHOULD, rather) have the right to express our opinions in
    > whatever manner we see fit, whether*



    (*unless that means two men want to get married


    > it is through our voices in person or over the internet. Regardless of
    > what is going on in other parts of the world, we still have that
    > freedom. *(as long as we don't plan to have the president slapped by Zha Zha Gabor for his homophobic ****ing comments)

    And that is part of the reason that America is as progressive a
    > country as it is, the free exchange of ideas... no matter how trivial it
    > might seem to others.


    Considering most idea's and laws in the US are a result of the bible.
    >
    > However, all that being said, I am not entirely indifferent to the
    > plight of your people. I am not heartless, and I sympathize with you and
    > your fellow countrymen, I honestly do. It is my sincere hope that our
    > troops and our government are doing everything they can to help you
    > rebuild your country.
    >
    > P.S. - By the way, not everyone in this country agreed with the war in
    > the first place. I hope you and all Iraqis realize that, at least to
    > some extent.
    >
    > Respectfully,
    >
    > --
    > Paul Z. Delgado
    > Wireless Consultant
    > Alltel, T-Mobile, Sprint PCS
    >
    > Wireless Plus
    > www.wirelessflorida.net
    > 813.977.8646



    By the way before you slam me for my reply, understand I am a Canadian,
    Secondly, the two contries have evolved in two different ways, but both
    comming from the same country (England) as persucuted religious beliefs
    (How screwed up can a religion be for the Brits to say "Get the ****
    out)

    the US became a country by fighting, by getting in everyones face,
    throwing weapons around, and confrontation, and to this day the US still
    see's that as it's only option to get things solved.

    Canada became a country by peace, commication, and neogation.

    There is a difference between PEACE Keeping, and POLICING

    Welcome to the US, You just lost every right known to man while we check
    your bags, do anal probes, blood tests, hair & urine samples... and
    that's just to get an apartment in Manhattan!

    Colby

    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  8. #8
    127.0.0.1
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    "Colby Karrington" <[email protected]****ingspammers.aol.com> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]
    >
    > By the way before you slam me for my reply, understand I am a Canadian,
    > Secondly, the two contries have evolved in two different ways, but both
    > comming from the same country (England) as persucuted religious beliefs
    > (How screwed up can a religion be for the Brits to say "Get the ****
    > out)
    >
    > the US became a country by fighting, by getting in everyones face,
    > throwing weapons around, and confrontation, and to this day the US still
    > see's that as it's only option to get things solved.


    try to take my freedom and i will join the NRA. there are just things worth
    dying for.

    > Canada became a country by peace, commication, and neogation.


    and you think the USA had nothing to do with that, eh? i'm not a canadian
    historian but i do know the british empire had many enemies to deal with,
    that's why they lost the war with the americas.

    > There is a difference between PEACE Keeping, and POLICING


    yes, there is a difference between keeping the peace and enforcing the laws.

    > Welcome to the US, You just lost every right known to man while we check
    > your bags, do anal probes, blood tests, hair & urine samples... and
    > that's just to get an apartment in Manhattan!
    >


    eh? you must be visiting our prison system. were you convicted of a crime?
    go read some history books and check why there's a long line to become a
    U.S. citizen.





  9. #9
    Colby Karrington
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    I'm dual citizen anyways, I only use the US Citizenship for convience...

    go read your current events pages, gay & lesbians are moving to Canada
    by the ****loads.


    "127.0.0.1" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    >
    > "Colby Karrington" <[email protected]****ingspammers.aol.com> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > By the way before you slam me for my reply, understand I am a Canadian,
    > > Secondly, the two contries have evolved in two different ways, but both
    > > comming from the same country (England) as persucuted religious beliefs
    > > (How screwed up can a religion be for the Brits to say "Get the ****
    > > out)
    > >
    > > the US became a country by fighting, by getting in everyones face,
    > > throwing weapons around, and confrontation, and to this day the US still
    > > see's that as it's only option to get things solved.

    >
    > try to take my freedom and i will join the NRA. there are just things worth
    > dying for.
    >
    > > Canada became a country by peace, commication, and neogation.

    >
    > and you think the USA had nothing to do with that, eh? i'm not a canadian
    > historian but i do know the british empire had many enemies to deal with,
    > that's why they lost the war with the americas.

    Ahh, but what your dumb ass doesn't realize is the Brits soldiers all
    went to Canada after the war, 99% of Canada's forming was by Citizens
    LOYAL to the crown, and it was because of loyality and PEACE that they
    granted Canada Comminwealth status in 1861, and then independant
    country, in 1982

    Now if you think about it, We've got a country that's 21 years old, that
    has more rights, and more fredoms for ALL it's citizens, including
    fredom of religion, and FREDOM FROM RELIGIOUS PERSUCUTION! Hmmmm that's
    what the churches do in the US... persucute the gays.

    Also, When it comes to the US... read your facts, they couldn't even get
    a decent constitution written until 10 years later. wrote 3 different
    versions, signed all 3 into law, the 3rd one is the one we actually use
    today.

    First one had no federal goverment, we were very much like the EU at
    that time, each state did it's own thing, with a shared tax system and
    currency, the second revision said how to collect for those taxes, and
    how to appoint heads of office for a small federal system

    3rd revision said the brits were right, need a heavy federal goverment.


    And just remember. the US is a republic, because minority's rights are
    protected in republics. that's why all the wet backs are allowed in the
    US



    >
    > > There is a difference between PEACE Keeping, and POLICING

    >
    > yes, there is a difference between keeping the peace and enforcing the laws.
    >
    > > Welcome to the US, You just lost every right known to man while we check
    > > your bags, do anal probes, blood tests, hair & urine samples... and
    > > that's just to get an apartment in Manhattan!
    > >

    >
    > eh? you must be visiting our prison system. were you convicted of a crime?
    > go read some history books and check why there's a long line to become a
    > U.S. citizen.
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  10. #10
    127.0.0.1
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!


    "Colby Karrington" <[email protected]****ingspammers.aol.com> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]
    >
    > Now if you think about it, We've got a country that's 21 years old, that
    > has more rights, and more fredoms for ALL it's citizens, including
    > fredom of religion, and FREDOM FROM RELIGIOUS PERSUCUTION! Hmmmm that's
    > what the churches do in the US... persucute the gays.


    what do gays have to do with religious persecution?
    here in the U.S., gays make $10k more than heterosexuals.
    every country has their share of hate crimes (including canada)

    > Also, When it comes to the US... read your facts, they couldn't even get
    > a decent constitution written until 10 years later. wrote 3 different
    > versions, signed all 3 into law, the 3rd one is the one we actually use
    > today.


    hehe, i did a little research on the constitution act for canada, it starts
    from 1867 and is still being modified in 1999.
    can't you even decide on a constitution? i'm not talking amendments, these
    were major changes in voting rights.

    > First one had no federal goverment, we were very much like the EU at
    > that time, each state did it's own thing, with a shared tax system and
    > currency, the second revision said how to collect for those taxes, and
    > how to appoint heads of office for a small federal system
    >
    > 3rd revision said the brits were right, need a heavy federal goverment.
    >
    >
    > And just remember. the US is a republic, because minority's rights are
    > protected in republics. that's why all the wet backs are allowed in the
    > US


    republic is a bastardized term. the US is a democracy, where the major vote
    is the deciding factor. citizens of the US have protected rights (minority
    or not, doesn't matter).

    I do hope you know that Britain was loosing the war with Hitler (US aid
    saved your British buttocks). but I really don't think you understand the
    concept of fighting for freedom. open your eyes, we don't live in a peaceful
    world (not yet at least). also, don't forget that without US military,
    Communism would have spread down your neck (after wwII).

    why are you even having this discussion? paying too much for fuel? methinks
    you are ill-informed because of canada's state run censorship program and
    publication bans that limited your knowledge of the world.





  11. #11
    Jer
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    127.0.0.1 wrote:

    [....]
    > the US is a democracy, where the major vote
    > is the deciding factor. citizens of the US have protected rights (minority
    > or not, doesn't matter).


    I'll bet I'm not the only one that wishes this was true.

    [....]

    --
    jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
    "All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
    what we know." -- Richard Wilbur




  12. #12
    DevilsPGD
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    In message <<[email protected]>> [email protected]
    (Alex Mikey) did ramble:

    >You have a right to call him for a purpose. Calling for no reason, time
    >and time again isn't covered under freedom of speech, it's covered under
    >harrassment.


    Calling to tell him his ruling sucks is a reason. The fact that you've
    called before doesn't change the reason you're calling this time.

    --
    If you've had half as much fun reading this as I've had writing it, I've had twice as much fun as you.



  13. #13
    About Dakota
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    And I bet you actaully know what was entailed in the Homeland Security
    Act. That's why you wish Americans still had rights.

    Jer wrote:
    > 127.0.0.1 wrote:
    >
    > [....]
    >
    >> the US is a democracy, where the major vote
    >> is the deciding factor. citizens of the US have protected rights
    >> (minority
    >> or not, doesn't matter).

    >
    >
    > I'll bet I'm not the only one that wishes this was true.
    >
    > [....]
    >





  14. #14
    DevilsPGD
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    In message <<[email protected]>> DevilsPGD
    <[email protected]> did ramble:

    >Calling to tell him his ruling sucks is a reason. The fact that you've
    >called before doesn't change the reason you're calling this time.


    btw, yes this is borderline harassment, and might well qualify as
    harassment. IANAL, not even on TV.

    --
    If you've had half as much fun reading this as I've had writing it, I've had twice as much fun as you.



  15. #15
    Michael Yermian
    Guest

    Re: Exercise your free speech rights!

    I guess I must've visited alt.canada or something... for a second there
    I thought I was on the alt.CELLULAR.attws NG...

    Looking at where this message was posted, the ONLY reasonable post this
    should have been made to was alt.privacy... now, if it was
    alt.cellular.rogersattws I could understand...

    Also note, I don't know if alt.canada or if alt.cellular.rogersattws do
    truley exist, I'm just making a point to POST TO THE RIGHT GROUP!

    --
    Michael Y.


    [email protected]****ingspammers.aol.com (Colby Karrington) wrote in
    article <[email protected]>:
    >
    > [email protected] (Paul Z. Delgado) wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    >
    > > And besides that, despite problems in foreign lands, we here in the US
    > > do (or maybe SHOULD, rather) have the right to express our opinions in
    > > whatever manner we see fit, whether*

    >
    >
    > (*unless that means two men want to get married
    >
    >
    > > it is through our voices in person or over the internet. Regardless of
    > > what is going on in other parts of the world, we still have that
    > > freedom. *(as long as we don't plan to have the president slapped by Zha Zha Gabor for his homophobic ****ing comments)

    > And that is part of the reason that America is as progressive a
    > > country as it is, the free exchange of ideas... no matter how trivial it
    > > might seem to others.

    >
    > Considering most idea's and laws in the US are a result of the bible.
    > >
    > > However, all that being said, I am not entirely indifferent to the
    > > plight of your people. I am not heartless, and I sympathize with you and
    > > your fellow countrymen, I honestly do. It is my sincere hope that our
    > > troops and our government are doing everything they can to help you
    > > rebuild your country.
    > >
    > > P.S. - By the way, not everyone in this country agreed with the war in
    > > the first place. I hope you and all Iraqis realize that, at least to
    > > some extent.
    > >
    > > Respectfully,
    > >
    > > --
    > > Paul Z. Delgado
    > > Wireless Consultant
    > > Alltel, T-Mobile, Sprint PCS
    > >
    > > Wireless Plus
    > > www.wirelessflorida.net
    > > 813.977.8646

    >
    >
    > By the way before you slam me for my reply, understand I am a Canadian,
    > Secondly, the two contries have evolved in two different ways, but both
    > comming from the same country (England) as persucuted religious beliefs
    > (How screwed up can a religion be for the Brits to say "Get the ****
    > out)
    >
    > the US became a country by fighting, by getting in everyones face,
    > throwing weapons around, and confrontation, and to this day the US still
    > see's that as it's only option to get things solved.
    >
    > Canada became a country by peace, commication, and neogation.
    >
    > There is a difference between PEACE Keeping, and POLICING
    >
    > Welcome to the US, You just lost every right known to man while we check
    > your bags, do anal probes, blood tests, hair & urine samples... and
    > that's just to get an apartment in Manhattan!
    >
    > Colby
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



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