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  1. #1
    Eric
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    Here's a question...

    When Sprint finally does get around to implementing true sms this
    fall/late winter... does anyone think (sprint employee or otherwise)
    that there could be software upgrades that would enable sms on existing
    models?

    In particular, the Nokia 3585i surely was originally built with sms
    included... but Sprint had Nokia take it out. Is it possible that a
    software update would enable this feature again?

    I don't want to spend $150 on a new Nokia phone because I want to use
    sms. I don't really need vision, just messaging. Why would Sprint
    force longtime existing customers who have repeatedly asked for sms to
    all go out and buy expensive new phones when there are a few (3585i in
    specific) that could have handled it easily in the first place?

    Eric




    See More: SMS/software Question....




  2. #2
    Brandt
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    No there ahould not be an update for older phones. SMS is completely
    different from anything sprint does already. It is not similar to
    vision or data at all. There may be an appliacation that you can
    download to allow you to do it via shortmail without going to the site.
    I know some of the free sites out there have some listed, you could try
    that.

    --
    -Brandt

    I work for SprintPCS,
    I DON'T speak for them.


    [email protected] (Eric) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Here's a question...
    >
    > When Sprint finally does get around to implementing true sms this
    > fall/late winter... does anyone think (sprint employee or otherwise)
    > that there could be software upgrades that would enable sms on existing
    > models?
    >
    > In particular, the Nokia 3585i surely was originally built with sms
    > included... but Sprint had Nokia take it out. Is it possible that a
    > software update would enable this feature again?
    >
    > I don't want to spend $150 on a new Nokia phone because I want to use
    > sms. I don't really need vision, just messaging. Why would Sprint
    > force longtime existing customers who have repeatedly asked for sms to
    > all go out and buy expensive new phones when there are a few (3585i in
    > specific) that could have handled it easily in the first place?
    >
    > Eric
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  3. #3
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Brandt ) wrote:

    > No there ahould not be an update for older phones. SMS is completely
    > different from anything sprint does already. It is not similar to
    > vision or data at all. There may be an appliacation that you can
    > download to allow you to do it via shortmail without going to the site.
    > I know some of the free sites out there have some listed, you could try
    > that.
    >
    > --
    > -Brandt
    >
    > I work for SprintPCS,
    > I DON'T speak for them.


    Translation: You want SMS, you need to find a cellular provider other
    than Sprint.

    >
    >
    > [email protected] (Eric) wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > Here's a question...
    > >
    > > When Sprint finally does get around to implementing true sms this
    > > fall/late winter... does anyone think (sprint employee or otherwise)
    > > that there could be software upgrades that would enable sms on existing
    > > models?
    > >
    > > In particular, the Nokia 3585i surely was originally built with sms
    > > included... but Sprint had Nokia take it out. Is it possible that a
    > > software update would enable this feature again?
    > >
    > > I don't want to spend $150 on a new Nokia phone because I want to use
    > > sms. I don't really need vision, just messaging. Why would Sprint
    > > force longtime existing customers who have repeatedly asked for sms to
    > > all go out and buy expensive new phones when there are a few (3585i in
    > > specific) that could have handled it easily in the first place?
    > >
    > > Eric
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]




  4. #4
    hatoncat
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....


    Phill. wrote:
    > *In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Brandt ) wrote:
    > Translation: You want SMS, you need to find a cellular provider
    > other
    > than Sprint.
    > *


    YOU ARE INSANE. Sprint is already selling the Nokia 3588i with SMS,
    and SMS will be enabled on the phone within two months.

    GO AWAY TROLL.
    ---
    www.sprintpcsinfo.com

    --
    Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
    Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap




  5. #5
    Eric
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    <<SMS is completely different from anything sprint does already. It is
    not similar to vision or data at all. >>

    I think you misunderstood my question, which is okay since I may not
    have been clear. I know sms is very different from anything Sprint does
    now, but on the same token, I know that the Nokia 3585i originally had
    sms capabilities built in, but it was one of the things Sprint had Nokia
    disable upon release. The 3585i has no wireless web/vision
    capabilities, but it *originally* had sms capabilities -- as the same
    model has with other carriers.

    My question was does anyone think that a software update will be
    released so that the sms feature in the 3585i will become enabled again?

    Eric




  6. #6
    Brandt
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    they have built the technology into the network, but there shouldn't be
    a way to add it to an old phone without rebuilding the parts into it.
    --
    -Brandt

    I work for SprintPCS,
    I DON'T speak for them.


    hatoncat <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    >
    > Phill. wrote:
    > > *In article <[email protected]>,
    > > [email protected] (Brandt ) wrote:
    > > Translation: You want SMS, you need to find a cellular provider
    > > other
    > > than Sprint.
    > > *

    >
    > YOU ARE INSANE. Sprint is already selling the Nokia 3588i with SMS,
    > and SMS will be enabled on the phone within two months.
    >
    > GO AWAY TROLL.
    > ---
    > www.sprintpcsinfo.com
    >
    > --
    > Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
    > Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  7. #7
    Brandt
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    That is a possibility. We won't know until they actually launch sms.

    --
    -Brandt

    I work for SprintPCS,
    I DON'T speak for them.


    [email protected] (Eric) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > <<SMS is completely different from anything sprint does already. It is
    > not similar to vision or data at all. >>
    >
    > I think you misunderstood my question, which is okay since I may not
    > have been clear. I know sms is very different from anything Sprint does
    > now, but on the same token, I know that the Nokia 3585i originally had
    > sms capabilities built in, but it was one of the things Sprint had Nokia
    > disable upon release. The 3585i has no wireless web/vision
    > capabilities, but it *originally* had sms capabilities -- as the same
    > model has with other carriers.
    >
    > My question was does anyone think that a software update will be
    > released so that the sms feature in the 3585i will become enabled again?
    >
    > Eric
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  8. #8
    Eric
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    <<they have built the technology into the network, but there shouldn't
    be a way to add it to an old phone without rebuilding the parts into it.
    >>


    That's what I was afraid of hearing. I thought there may be an outside
    chance that at least with the 3585i a software update could enable the
    sms feature on the phone since it was built to include it in the first
    place. Sprint had that feature disabled, but I didn't know if they
    forced Nokia to take it completely out or not.

    If Sprint was smart, they could have just had Nokia disable the sms
    messaging from the 3585i... and then have a firmware update to re-enable
    it when sms became a service feature of Sprint's.

    Eric




  9. #9
    Jon Clark
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    You are either a troll, or completely ignorant about software customization.
    Take almost any Sprint-branded CDMA phone made in the last two years and
    there is an equivalent piece of hardware sold by either Verizon, Alltel,
    USCC, Bell Mobility, Telus or Qwest. Do you really think they have
    physically different guts? Sprint simply has the manufacturer either remove
    or disable MO-SMS in the phone's software. That means it's as simple as a
    new software load to re-enable it. Now, whether Sprint will choose to do
    that on their current phone lineup remains to be seen. It seems ridiculous
    that I would have to scrap my 2-month old A620 and buy a new phone to get
    MO-SMS on Sprint, but they have done more stupid things than that I guess...

    -Jon

    "Brandt " <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > No there ahould not be an update for older phones. SMS is completely
    > different from anything sprint does already. It is not similar to
    > vision or data at all. There may be an appliacation that you can
    > download to allow you to do it via shortmail without going to the site.
    > I know some of the free sites out there have some listed, you could try
    > that.
    >
    > --
    > -Brandt
    >
    > I work for SprintPCS,
    > I DON'T speak for them.
    >
    >
    > [email protected] (Eric) wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > Here's a question...
    > >
    > > When Sprint finally does get around to implementing true sms this
    > > fall/late winter... does anyone think (sprint employee or otherwise)
    > > that there could be software upgrades that would enable sms on existing
    > > models?
    > >
    > > In particular, the Nokia 3585i surely was originally built with sms
    > > included... but Sprint had Nokia take it out. Is it possible that a
    > > software update would enable this feature again?
    > >
    > > I don't want to spend $150 on a new Nokia phone because I want to use
    > > sms. I don't really need vision, just messaging. Why would Sprint
    > > force longtime existing customers who have repeatedly asked for sms to
    > > all go out and buy expensive new phones when there are a few (3585i in
    > > specific) that could have handled it easily in the first place?
    > >
    > > Eric
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]






  10. #10
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Brandt ) wrote:

    > they have built the technology into the network, but there shouldn't be
    > a way to add it to an old phone without rebuilding the parts into it.
    > --
    > -Brandt
    >
    > I work for SprintPCS,
    > I DON'T speak for them.


    Thank you for agreeing with me. Hatoncat is over the top as a Sprint
    apologist.

    >
    >
    > hatoncat <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > >
    > > Phill. wrote:
    > > > *In article <[email protected]>,
    > > > [email protected] (Brandt ) wrote:
    > > > Translation: You want SMS, you need to find a cellular provider
    > > > other
    > > > than Sprint.
    > > > *

    > >
    > > YOU ARE INSANE. Sprint is already selling the Nokia 3588i with SMS,
    > > and SMS will be enabled on the phone within two months.
    > >
    > > GO AWAY TROLL.
    > > ---
    > > www.sprintpcsinfo.com
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted at SprintUsers.com - Your place for everything Sprint PCS
    > > Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]




  11. #11
    Eric
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    <<That is a possibility. We won't know until they actually launch sms.
    >>


    That would be great... considering how many 3585is that were sold. I
    think it would be really ridiculous if Sprint had Nokia disable a
    feature that was originally built-in, and then have no way to re-enable
    it once it because available.

    Here's to hoping...

    Eric




  12. #12
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    [email protected] says...
    > Thank you for agreeing with me. Hatoncat is over the top as a Sprint=20
    > apologist.
    >=20


    This from the hypocrite who LOVES to accuse others of spin. SMS is=20
    coming to SprintPCS, and you think the above agrees with your claim that=20
    users wanting it should go to another provider?

    --=20
    -+-
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



  13. #13
    Terry Knab
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....


    "Eric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > <<That is a possibility. We won't know until they actually launch sms.
    > >>

    >
    > That would be great... considering how many 3585is that were sold. I
    > think it would be really ridiculous if Sprint had Nokia disable a
    > feature that was originally built-in, and then have no way to re-enable
    > it once it because available.
    >
    > Here's to hoping...


    I recall with the 5185i that VZ sold the phones didn't have SMS enabled
    either. Appearantly there was some issue with Verizon's network and the
    fact half the switches couldn't handle it at the time, VZ didn't have them
    put SMS into the the firmware. However, once SMS was launched on VZ, they
    had the firmware enabled to do so.





  14. #14
    Brandt
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    it might be possible, but I can't say for sure.

    --
    -Brandt

    I work for SprintPCS,
    I DON'T speak for them.


    [email protected] (Eric) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > <<they have built the technology into the network, but there shouldn't
    > be a way to add it to an old phone without rebuilding the parts into it.
    > >>

    >
    > That's what I was afraid of hearing. I thought there may be an outside
    > chance that at least with the 3585i a software update could enable the
    > sms feature on the phone since it was built to include it in the first
    > place. Sprint had that feature disabled, but I didn't know if they
    > forced Nokia to take it completely out or not.
    >
    > If Sprint was smart, they could have just had Nokia disable the sms
    > messaging from the 3585i... and then have a firmware update to re-enable
    > it when sms became a service feature of Sprint's.
    >
    > Eric
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  15. #15
    Brandt
    Guest

    Re: SMS/software Question....

    some phones are similar to those of different carriers, but yes they
    each have different hardware inside, Sprint needs CDMA 1.9 and Verizon
    CDMA 800. Look at Sprint's A460, TMobil has a phone that looks the
    same, they are 100% different on the inside, TMobil's is GSM and ours is
    CDMA. They do custom make the phones for each carrier.

    --
    -Brandt

    I work for SprintPCS,
    I DON'T speak for them.


    "Jon Clark" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > You are either a troll, or completely ignorant about software customization.
    > Take almost any Sprint-branded CDMA phone made in the last two years and
    > there is an equivalent piece of hardware sold by either Verizon, Alltel,
    > USCC, Bell Mobility, Telus or Qwest. Do you really think they have
    > physically different guts? Sprint simply has the manufacturer either remove
    > or disable MO-SMS in the phone's software. That means it's as simple as a
    > new software load to re-enable it. Now, whether Sprint will choose to do
    > that on their current phone lineup remains to be seen. It seems ridiculous
    > that I would have to scrap my 2-month old A620 and buy a new phone to get
    > MO-SMS on Sprint, but they have done more stupid things than that I guess...
    >
    > -Jon
    >
    > "Brandt " <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > No there ahould not be an update for older phones. SMS is completely
    > > different from anything sprint does already. It is not similar to
    > > vision or data at all. There may be an appliacation that you can
    > > download to allow you to do it via shortmail without going to the site.
    > > I know some of the free sites out there have some listed, you could try
    > > that.
    > >
    > > --
    > > -Brandt
    > >
    > > I work for SprintPCS,
    > > I DON'T speak for them.
    > >
    > >
    > > [email protected] (Eric) wrote in article
    > > <[email protected]>:
    > > > Here's a question...
    > > >
    > > > When Sprint finally does get around to implementing true sms this
    > > > fall/late winter... does anyone think (sprint employee or otherwise)
    > > > that there could be software upgrades that would enable sms on existing
    > > > models?
    > > >
    > > > In particular, the Nokia 3585i surely was originally built with sms
    > > > included... but Sprint had Nokia take it out. Is it possible that a
    > > > software update would enable this feature again?
    > > >
    > > > I don't want to spend $150 on a new Nokia phone because I want to use
    > > > sms. I don't really need vision, just messaging. Why would Sprint
    > > > force longtime existing customers who have repeatedly asked for sms to
    > > > all go out and buy expensive new phones when there are a few (3585i in
    > > > specific) that could have handled it easily in the first place?
    > > >
    > > > Eric
    > > >

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]

    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



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