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  1. #1
    Phill.
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    http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030930/cgtu001b_1.html


    says in part:

    Mobile-Originated SMS: This device is compatible with two-way SMS
    messaging services when available.
    =========


    Well that nails it down doesn't it? It will do SMS "when available";
    obviously not any time soon or they'd name a target date. Likely
    Sprint's engineers have their hands full working on PTT.



    See More: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i




  2. #2
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    In article <[email protected]>,=20
    [email protected] says...
    > It will do SMS "when available";
    > obviously not any time soon or they'd name a target date.
    >=20


    So you saw a "target date" on the 3588i before it was officially=20
    released?

    --=20
    -+-
    R=D8=DF
    O/Siris
    I work for SprintPCS
    I *don't* speak for them.



  3. #3
    Bob Smith
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    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i


    "Phill." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030930/cgtu001b_1.html
    >
    >
    > says in part:
    >
    > Mobile-Originated SMS: This device is compatible with two-way SMS
    > messaging services when available.
    > =========
    >
    >
    > Well that nails it down doesn't it? It will do SMS "when available";
    > obviously not any time soon or they'd name a target date. Likely
    > Sprint's engineers have their hands full working on PTT.


    So Phillippe, what's up here? Posting the same subject line as mine
    .... but two hours later? What's with that?

    Bob





  4. #4
    Eric
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    <<Well that nails it down doesn't it? It will do SMS "when available";
    obviously not any time soon or they'd name a target date.>>

    I take that as at least a positive sign that it *is* being worked on and
    is coming soon. It gives the speculation rumors a little more evidence
    to go on as this is the first phone that Sprint didn't have that feature
    taken out of.

    Eric




  5. #5
    Gr8 Oz
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    Speaking of "Features Removed"....
    Here is an interesting tidbit for you.

    I contacted Nokia inre to phone features they remove
    based on a company's desired device features.
    They did in fact tell me that the Nokia 3585i STILL
    has the SMS feature in the phone...the option was
    disabled from the phone's menu options AND if
    Sprint PCS decided they wanted the feature enabled
    then the Nokia Tech staff would design a software up-
    grade for the phone that would enable this feature.
    I found their information very interesting.
    Nokia wrote to me:

    "Sprint PCS may offer software upgrades as they become available. "
    "The concerns with your Nokia 3585i phone
    are dependent upon Sprint PCS rather than a feature of the phone itself.
    "

    So....at this point I would have to say it is going to be
    up to Sprint PCS to do -right- by allowing the many custs
    to have the device upgraded for this service.

    --
    Because there is a satisfied customer today...
    The company can open their doors
    tomorrow...


    [email protected] (Eric) wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > <<Well that nails it down doesn't it? It will do SMS "when available";
    > obviously not any time soon or they'd name a target date.>>
    >
    > I take that as at least a positive sign that it *is* being worked on and
    > is coming soon. It gives the speculation rumors a little more evidence
    > to go on as this is the first phone that Sprint didn't have that feature
    > taken out of.
    >
    > Eric
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  6. #6
    Thomas T. Veldhouse
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i


    "Gr8 Oz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Speaking of "Features Removed"....
    > Here is an interesting tidbit for you.
    >
    > I contacted Nokia inre to phone features they remove
    > based on a company's desired device features.
    > They did in fact tell me that the Nokia 3585i STILL
    > has the SMS feature in the phone...the option was
    > disabled from the phone's menu options AND if
    > Sprint PCS decided they wanted the feature enabled
    > then the Nokia Tech staff would design a software up-
    > grade for the phone that would enable this feature.
    > I found their information very interesting.
    > Nokia wrote to me:
    >
    > "Sprint PCS may offer software upgrades as they become available. "
    > "The concerns with your Nokia 3585i phone
    > are dependent upon Sprint PCS rather than a feature of the phone itself.
    > "
    >
    > So....at this point I would have to say it is going to be
    > up to Sprint PCS to do -right- by allowing the many custs
    > to have the device upgraded for this service.
    >
    > --
    > Because there is a satisfied customer today...
    > The company can open their doors
    > tomorrow...
    >
    >



    I could be wrong, but I thought SMS was software based anyway, so,
    technically, any phone could be upgraded to use SMS. For this reason, I
    would not put stock in the statement that SMS is coming.

    Tom Veldhouse





  7. #7
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> So....at this point I would have to say it is going to be
    >> up to Sprint PCS to do -right- by allowing the many custs
    >> to have the device upgraded for this service.


    You still need SMS _servers_ at the provider's end.

    So yes, Sprint has some work they need to do to implement SMS.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & Multimedia Services
    22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * [email protected]



  8. #8
    Gustavo Sanchez
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i


    Hi Guys, Does anyone know if Sprint will offer a rebate on the Nokia
    3588i?
    --
    WirelessGus


    Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >> So....at this point I would have to say it is going to be
    > >> up to Sprint PCS to do -right- by allowing the many custs
    > >> to have the device upgraded for this service.

    >
    > You still need SMS _servers_ at the provider's end.
    >
    > So yes, Sprint has some work they need to do to implement SMS.
    >
    > --
    > JustThe.net Internet & Multimedia Services
    > 22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    > Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    > 888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * [email protected]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  9. #9
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Gr8 Oz) wrote:

    > Speaking of "Features Removed"....
    > Here is an interesting tidbit for you.
    >
    > I contacted Nokia inre to phone features they remove
    > based on a company's desired device features.
    > They did in fact tell me that the Nokia 3585i STILL
    > has the SMS feature in the phone...the option was
    > disabled from the phone's menu options AND if
    > Sprint PCS decided they wanted the feature enabled
    > then the Nokia Tech staff would design a software up-
    > grade for the phone that would enable this feature.
    > I found their information very interesting.
    > Nokia wrote to me:
    >
    > "Sprint PCS may offer software upgrades as they become available. "


    "may offer" not will offer

    > "The concerns with your Nokia 3585i phone
    > are dependent upon Sprint PCS rather than a feature of the phone itself.
    > "
    >
    > So....at this point I would have to say it is going to be
    > up to Sprint PCS to do -right- by allowing the many custs
    > to have the device upgraded for this service.


    I assume Sprint is weighing the cost of implemented SMS versus how many
    foks want it and how much extra they could charge for it. Goiven Sprint
    has now set itself up for having to do a firmware upgrade (something
    that was promised for the 6185 and never happened) and hasn't set a
    estimated date for introducing SMS, I wouldn't hold my breath.


    >
    > --
    > Because there is a satisfied customer today...
    > The company can open their doors
    > tomorrow...
    >
    >
    > [email protected] (Eric) wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > <<Well that nails it down doesn't it? It will do SMS "when available";
    > > obviously not any time soon or they'd name a target date.>>
    > >
    > > I take that as at least a positive sign that it *is* being worked on and
    > > is coming soon. It gives the speculation rumors a little more evidence
    > > to go on as this is the first phone that Sprint didn't have that feature
    > > taken out of.
    > >
    > > Eric
    > >



    Well the fact that Sprint went to the trouble of having SMS removed from
    the menu means SMS is later rather than sooner, if ever; as having folks
    come in for firmware uogrades is a pain, it was promised for the 6185
    and never happened. Now Sprint isnt saying anything and Nokia says it
    may be offered.



  10. #10
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Gustavo Sanchez) wrote:

    >
    > Hi Guys, Does anyone know if Sprint will offer a rebate on the Nokia
    > 3588i?
    > --
    > WirelessGus


    It just came out. No rebates yet. Amazon doesnt even carry it yet.



  11. #11
    Moo
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    I (well my wife) owns the Nokia 3588i::

    A. SMS has NOT been removed from the menu. You can go to messages, and
    create a text message and create a recipient list. It will also let you
    START to send the message. It then says: "Messaging services not available
    yet. You will be notified by text message when the service is available"
    or something like that.

    B. The phone is FREE after INSTANT REBATE with new activation or adding an
    additional line to your existing account. At least that's what they are
    offering in Southern California.

    Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo



    "Phill." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Gr8 Oz) wrote:
    >
    > > Speaking of "Features Removed"....
    > > Here is an interesting tidbit for you.
    > >
    > > I contacted Nokia inre to phone features they remove
    > > based on a company's desired device features.
    > > They did in fact tell me that the Nokia 3585i STILL
    > > has the SMS feature in the phone...the option was
    > > disabled from the phone's menu options AND if
    > > Sprint PCS decided they wanted the feature enabled
    > > then the Nokia Tech staff would design a software up-
    > > grade for the phone that would enable this feature.
    > > I found their information very interesting.
    > > Nokia wrote to me:
    > >
    > > "Sprint PCS may offer software upgrades as they become available. "

    >
    > "may offer" not will offer
    >
    > > "The concerns with your Nokia 3585i phone
    > > are dependent upon Sprint PCS rather than a feature of the phone itself.
    > > "
    > >
    > > So....at this point I would have to say it is going to be
    > > up to Sprint PCS to do -right- by allowing the many custs
    > > to have the device upgraded for this service.

    >
    > I assume Sprint is weighing the cost of implemented SMS versus how many
    > foks want it and how much extra they could charge for it. Goiven Sprint
    > has now set itself up for having to do a firmware upgrade (something
    > that was promised for the 6185 and never happened) and hasn't set a
    > estimated date for introducing SMS, I wouldn't hold my breath.
    >
    >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Because there is a satisfied customer today...
    > > The company can open their doors
    > > tomorrow...
    > >
    > >
    > > [email protected] (Eric) wrote in article
    > > <[email protected]>:
    > > > <<Well that nails it down doesn't it? It will do SMS "when available";
    > > > obviously not any time soon or they'd name a target date.>>
    > > >
    > > > I take that as at least a positive sign that it *is* being worked on

    and
    > > > is coming soon. It gives the speculation rumors a little more

    evidence
    > > > to go on as this is the first phone that Sprint didn't have that

    feature
    > > > taken out of.
    > > >
    > > > Eric
    > > >

    >
    >
    > Well the fact that Sprint went to the trouble of having SMS removed from
    > the menu means SMS is later rather than sooner, if ever; as having folks
    > come in for firmware uogrades is a pain, it was promised for the 6185
    > and never happened. Now Sprint isnt saying anything and Nokia says it
    > may be offered.






  12. #12
    Sprintposter
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    > The phone is FREE after INSTANT REBATE with
    > new activation or adding an
    > additional line to your existing account. At least
    > that's what they are
    > offering in Southern California.




    FREE is good. Any Sprint employees know and/or allowed to say where that
    promotion exists, since it is not National (yet?).

    > SMS has NOT been removed from the menu.


    Interesting. Nokia is giving out incorrect information then, based on whats
    been posted here.




  13. #13

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:11:48 GMT, "Phill." <[email protected]> wrote:


    >I assume Sprint is weighing the cost of implemented SMS versus how many
    >foks want it and how much extra they could charge for it. Goiven Sprint
    >has now set itself up for having to do a firmware upgrade (something
    >that was promised for the 6185 and never happened)


    And Sprint PCS was mighty angry that Nokia never delivered!


    >
    >Well the fact that Sprint went to the trouble of having SMS removed from
    >the menu means SMS is later rather than sooner, if ever;


    So, Phill, give us a firm date as to the earliest you expect SMS and
    the latest.





  14. #14
    Phill.
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] wrote:

    > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:11:48 GMT, "Phill." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    > >I assume Sprint is weighing the cost of implemented SMS versus how many
    > >foks want it and how much extra they could charge for it. Goiven Sprint
    > >has now set itself up for having to do a firmware upgrade (something
    > >that was promised for the 6185 and never happened)

    >
    > And Sprint PCS was mighty angry that Nokia never delivered!
    >
    >
    > >
    > >Well the fact that Sprint went to the trouble of having SMS removed from
    > >the menu means SMS is later rather than sooner, if ever;

    >
    > So, Phill, give us a firm date as to the earliest you expect SMS and
    > the latest.


    3 months after PTT launch would be my guess.



  15. #15
    Ski
    Guest

    Re: Sprint officially announces Nokia 3588i

    [email protected] wrote in news:[email protected]
    4ax.com:

    > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:11:48 GMT, "Phill." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I assume Sprint is weighing the cost of implemented SMS versus how many
    >>foks want it and how much extra they could charge for it. Goiven Sprint
    >>has now set itself up for having to do a firmware upgrade (something
    >>that was promised for the 6185 and never happened)

    >
    >

    There realy is not much different between the 3585 and the 3588 as far as
    useful things. Perhaps a little better battery life



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