sanyo 8100 USB Data Cable

Has anyone tried using your sanyo 8100 as a modem for you home pc. I
have the cable and the 3G dialer but it wont recognize that my phone is
connected. Has anyone ran across this?

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (PCS Tech) wrote:

> Has anyone tried using your sanyo 8100 as a modem for you home pc. I
> have the cable and the 3G dialer but it wont recognize that my phone is
> connected. Has anyone ran across this?

I assume since its a Vision phone like the 4900, What O'siris said
applies:

> Just remember two big things:

> 1) No Dial Tone. You'll have to set whatever dialing
> option to not to expect a dial tone.

> 2) 39¢/min while you do it, and max speed of 14.4KBps (and you'll rarely get
> that; usually significantly slower).

> That charge means it won't use your minutes.
> What happens is that both the phone and our system
> recognize that dialing in as a circuit-switched data call,
> and as such will bill it as a Wireless Web call.
> Since a plan does not exist that covers this kind of usage
> with a Vision phone, you'll pay 39¢/min while
> doing it, and it won't drain your voice minutes.

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (PCS Tech) wrote:
>=20
> > Has anyone tried using your sanyo 8100 as a modem for you home pc. I
> > have the cable and the 3G dialer but it wont recognize that my phone is
> > connected. Has anyone ran across this?
>=20
> I assume since its a Vision phone like the 4900, What O'siris said=20
> applies:
>=20
> > Just remember two big things:
>=20
> > 1) No Dial Tone. You'll have to set whatever dialing=20
> > option to not to expect a dial tone.
>=20
> > 2) 39=A2/min while you do it, and max speed of 14.4KBps (and you'll rar=
ely get=20
> > that; usually significantly slower).
>=20
> > That charge means it won't use your minutes. =20
> > What happens is that both the phone and our system=20
> > recognize that dialing in as a circuit-switched data call,=20
> > and as such will bill it as a Wireless Web call. =20
> > Since a plan does not exist that covers this kind of usage=20
> > with a Vision phone, you'll pay 39=A2/min while=20
> > doing it, and it won't drain your voice minutes.
>=20

It does, but only if he's trying to dial into another ISP. If he's=20
using the "#777" option to access Vision directly, then the ToS I've=20
posted previously apply. This is packet-switched data, and so falls=20
under Vision charges. The Vision packs will cover for this, but only=20
until the group watching for this use catches sight of it. If his usage=20
catches the eyes of the group watching for this, then he's going to lose=20
his vision pack. 1=A2/KB from that point on. Also if he's using the=20
dialer program I think he's using (Futuredial's, or our own), then he=20
need not be worried about dial tone or the per-minute charge. People=20
have reported here in the past that Win2K's DUN app (XP's also) will=20
dial #777 to access Vision if you set it up right. Same rules, though. =20
It violates ToS, and will get your Vision service pack removed=20
permanently if caught. So far, based strictly on calls I've received=20
and thus totally unofficial, only huge, multi-gigabyte-per-month users=20
have been hit with this policy. But the policy itself cites all such=20
use as abuse of Vision.


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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

In article <[email protected]>,
O/Siris <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] (PCS Tech) wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone tried using your sanyo 8100 as a modem for you home pc. I
> > > have the cable and the 3G dialer but it wont recognize that my phone is
> > > connected. Has anyone ran across this?
> >
> > I assume since its a Vision phone like the 4900, What O'siris said
> > applies:
> >
> > > Just remember two big things:
> >
> > > 1) No Dial Tone. You'll have to set whatever dialing
> > > option to not to expect a dial tone.
> >
> > > 2) 39¢/min while you do it, and max speed of 14.4KBps (and you'll rarely
> > > get
> > > that; usually significantly slower).
> >
> > > That charge means it won't use your minutes.
> > > What happens is that both the phone and our system
> > > recognize that dialing in as a circuit-switched data call,
> > > and as such will bill it as a Wireless Web call.
> > > Since a plan does not exist that covers this kind of usage
> > > with a Vision phone, you'll pay 39¢/min while
> > > doing it, and it won't drain your voice minutes.
> >
>
> It does, but only if he's trying to dial into another ISP. If he's
> using the "#777" option to access Vision directly, then the ToS I've
> posted previously apply. This is packet-switched data, and so falls
> under Vision charges. The Vision packs will cover for this, but only
> until the group watching for this use catches sight of it. If his usage
> catches the eyes of the group watching for this, then he's going to lose
> his vision pack. 1¢/KB from that point on. Also if he's using the
> dialer program I think he's using (Futuredial's, or our own), then he
> need not be worried about dial tone or the per-minute charge. People
> have reported here in the past that Win2K's DUN app (XP's also) will
> dial #777 to access Vision if you set it up right. Same rules, though.
> It violates ToS, and will get your Vision service pack removed
> permanently if caught. So far, based strictly on calls I've received
> and thus totally unofficial, only huge, multi-gigabyte-per-month users
> have been hit with this policy. But the policy itself cites all such
> use as abuse of Vision.

Good stuff Rob. Can we all keep to Sprint related stuff, and leave the
personal attacks out of all our posts?

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> Good stuff Rob. Can we all keep to Sprint related stuff, and leave the
> personal attacks out of all our posts?
>=20

That "all" is a significant word, Phill. I can't promise *or* guarantee=20
that. But I can and will guarantee myself.

--=20
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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

In article <[email protected]>,=20
O/Sirisrobjvargas@spr=EEntpcs.com says...
> In article <[email protected]>,=20
> [email protected] says...
> > Good stuff Rob. Can we all keep to Sprint related stuff, and leave the
> > personal attacks out of all our posts?
> >=20
>=20
> That "all" is a significant word, Phill. I can't promise *or* guarantee=
=20
> that. But I can and will guarantee myself.
>=20
>=20

Forgot to add: And I *do*.

--=20
-+-
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

In article <[email protected]>,
O/Siris <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.côm> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> O/Sirisrobjvargas@sprîntpcs.com says...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> > > Good stuff Rob. Can we all keep to Sprint related stuff, and leave the
> > > personal attacks out of all our posts?
> > >
> >
> > That "all" is a significant word, Phill. I can't promise *or* guarantee
> > that. But I can and will guarantee myself.
> >
> >
>
> Forgot to add: And I *do*.

And one minute later the Sprint apologist gets personal.

Do you come home and get drunk before you come online?

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> And one minute later the Sprint apologist gets personal.
>=20
> Do you come home and get drunk before you come online?
>=20

Again, how is telling you that you're wrong about the SMS release=20
getting personal?

--=20
-+-
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

In article <[email protected]>,
O/Siris <robjvargas@sprîntpcs.com> wrote:

>
> Again, how is telling you that you're wrong about the SMS release
> getting personal?

LIAR - I read what you said. and its more than that.

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> O/Siris <robjvargas@spr=EEntpcs.com> wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > Again, how is telling you that you're wrong about the SMS release=20
> > getting personal?
>=20
> LIAR - I read what you said. and its more than that.
>=20

No, it really isn't. Phill himself has staked a lot of criticism over=20
this project. I don't consider it a personal attack to be told I'm=20
going to eat crow. It means simply and only that I'm wrong. I may not=20
agree that I will, but I certainly won't take it personally.

--=20
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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.

In article <[email protected]>,=20
[email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> O/Siris <robjvargas@spr=EEntpcs.c=F4m> wrote:
>=20
> > In article <[email protected]>,=20
> > O/Sirisrobjvargas@spr=EEntpcs.com says...
> > > In article <[email protected]>=
,=20
> > > [email protected] says...
> > > > Good stuff Rob. Can we all keep to Sprint related stuff, and leave =
the
> > > > personal attacks out of all our posts?
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > > That "all" is a significant word, Phill. I can't promise *or* guaran=
tee=20
> > > that. But I can and will guarantee myself.
> > >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > Forgot to add: And I *do*.
>=20
> And one minute later the Sprint apologist gets personal.
>=20
> Do you come home and get drunk before you come online?
>=20

Phill, I ask you again. How is stating that you're wrong about SMS getting=
=20
personal? I really want to know.

You have not attacked me since you claimed I attacked you, other than in=20
understandable snap-backs like this, so please understand I am simply and o=
nly=20
asking. I meant no personal attack. I *am* challenging your stance on SMS=
..

Please answer the question. I won't ask again, but I would like to know.

--=20
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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.