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- 10-07-2003, 04:48 PM #1PDA ManGuest
Reuters /MSNBC reports that he U.S. Federal Trade Commission can go forward
with its national "do not call" registry while an appeals court considers
whether the list violates telemarketers' free speech rights, the U.S. Court
of Appeals said on Wednesday.
Full Story @ http://wirelessway.blogspot.com Much more of the days Wireless
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- 10-07-2003, 06:33 PM #2RayGuest
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PDA Man wrote:
>
> Reuters /MSNBC reports that he U.S. Federal Trade Commission can go forward
> with its national "do not call" registry while an appeals court considers
> whether the list violates telemarketers' free speech rights, the U.S. Court
> of Appeals said on Wednesday.
>
> Full Story @ http://wirelessway.blogspot.com Much more of the days Wireless
> news
And the telemarkerters have already found a loophole. Just got a marketing
call from Canada.
Ray
- 10-07-2003, 07:28 PM #3HopperGuest
Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!
> And the telemarkerters have already found a loophole. Just got a
marketing
> call from Canada.
Yea! for internationalization. I called IBM tech support once. The call went
to India. When they inquired as to which model I was using (an Aptiva) they
transfered me to Ireland. Odd.
Hopper
- 10-07-2003, 07:59 PM #4William BrayGuest
Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!
There is just one problem. A new national registry is being developed
so folks with land lines can look up their friend's cell phone numbers.
This will mean that cell phone numbers are no longer unlisted and that
Telemarketers will have a ball- on your air time of course. Check with
alt.Verizon for source.
"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Reuters /MSNBC reports that he U.S. Federal Trade Commission can go forward
> with its national "do not call" registry while an appeals court considers
> whether the list violates telemarketers' free speech rights, the U.S. Court
> of Appeals said on Wednesday.
>
> Full Story @ http://wirelessway.blogspot.com Much more of the days Wireless
> news
>
>
>
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- 10-07-2003, 09:22 PM #5Al KleinGuest
Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:33:06 -0400, Ray <[email protected]> posted in
alt.cellular.verizon:
>And the telemarkerters have already found a loophole. Just got a marketing
>call from Canada.
Not a problem. US carriers can be made to not carry calls from that
number to any US number.
- 10-07-2003, 09:27 PM #6kzGuest
Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!
What they are doing now is faxing us to death!
- 10-07-2003, 10:03 PM #7William BrayGuest
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Only if you activated that feature on your cell phone. I refuse to use
my cell phone for anything other than talking.
The really bad news is the all the cell phone companies are in on this
plot. They see it as a multi-billion dollar a year bonus for
themselves. You pay for the extra minutes you consume telling jerks to
leave you alone, and you pay to be taken off the list (no matter how
many times that takes). This is the worst real time "conspiracy" theme
I have ever come across- because it is real. I just checked it out at
the Washington Post. These guys are serious. The cell phone industry
wants to go into the list selling business.
An outfit called Zelos surveyed 1,200 cell phone users and has
recommended that the cell phone list selling business go forward- that
we wont mind all that much. So much for surveys. A mere 1,200 surveyed
for a decision that will effect 140 million cell phone users.
"kz" <[email protected]> wrote in article <vuLgb.61144$%h1.44079@sccrnsc02>:
> What they are doing now is faxing us to death!
>
>
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- 10-08-2003, 02:36 AM #8Mark & Mary Ann WeissGuest
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What about these text messages that keep coming in? I keep getting billed
for text services, even though I never open the text messages. I have quite
a few of them in the queue now and have not been deleting them because I was
told that to delete them you have to first open them and that involves a
text messaging charge per message. I get these charges anyway, every month
and the messages are from random numbers of no one I know. Very annoying to
have my cell phone ring and it's a text message from a spammer.
Do Not Call should also include Do Not Text.
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- 10-08-2003, 03:16 AM #9Peter PanGuest
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"Mark & Mary Ann Weiss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What about these text messages that keep coming in? I keep getting billed
> for text services, even though I never open the text messages. I have
quite
> a few of them in the queue now and have not been deleting them because I
was
> told that to delete them you have to first open them and that involves a
> text messaging charge per message. I get these charges anyway, every month
> and the messages are from random numbers of no one I know. Very annoying
to
> have my cell phone ring and it's a text message from a spammer.
> Do Not Call should also include Do Not Text.
>
>
> --
> Take care,
>
> Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
>
> VIDEO PRODUCTION . FILM SCANNING . AUDIO RESTORATION
> Hear my Kurzweil Creations at: http://www.dv-clips.com/theater.htm
> Business sites at:
> www.dv-clips.com
> www.mwcomms.com
> www.adventuresinanimemusic.com
> -
>
>
>
I wasn't really into the SMS messaging, and just called CS and had them
totally blocked. Sounds like you don't really want them if you leave your
text messages sit unopened. Be aware though that if you do that NOBODY can
send you SMS messages (I use mobile office and just have people send
emails).
- 10-08-2003, 05:24 AM #10Bryan RitchieGuest
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Call customer service have text messages blocked...no charge from VZW
--
Martty
"Mark & Mary Ann Weiss" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> What about these text messages that keep coming in? I keep getting billed
> for text services, even though I never open the text messages. I have quite
> a few of them in the queue now and have not been deleting them because I was
> told that to delete them you have to first open them and that involves a
> text messaging charge per message. I get these charges anyway, every month
> and the messages are from random numbers of no one I know. Very annoying to
> have my cell phone ring and it's a text message from a spammer.
> Do Not Call should also include Do Not Text.
>
>
> --
> Take care,
>
> Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
>
> VIDEO PRODUCTION . FILM SCANNING . AUDIO RESTORATION
> Hear my Kurzweil Creations at: http://www.dv-clips.com/theater.htm
> Business sites at:
> www.dv-clips.com
> www.mwcomms.com
> www.adventuresinanimemusic.com
> -
>
>
>
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- 10-08-2003, 12:43 PM #11CharlesHGuest
Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!
In article <[email protected]>,
Peter Pan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Mark & Mary Ann Weiss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> What about these text messages that keep coming in? I keep getting billed
>> for text services, even though I never open the text messages. I have
>quite
>> a few of them in the queue now and have not been deleting them because I
>was
>> told that to delete them you have to first open them and that involves a
>> text messaging charge per message. I get these charges anyway, every month
>> and the messages are from random numbers of no one I know. Very annoying
>to
>> have my cell phone ring and it's a text message from a spammer.
>> Do Not Call should also include Do Not Text.
Don't know about Cingular or Nextel, but certainly on Verizon, when the phone
gets the message, it is billed. The system has no way of knowing if you
go to the menu to actually read them.
- 10-08-2003, 01:54 PM #12Steven J SobolGuest
Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!
In alt.cellular.sprintpcs CharlesH <[email protected]> wrote:
> Don't know about Cingular or Nextel, but certainly on Verizon, when the phone
> gets the message, it is billed. The system has no way of knowing if you
> go to the menu to actually read them.
A recent ruling makes SMS spam actionable under the TCPA. I'll get a link
for y'all ASAP.
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- 10-08-2003, 07:30 PM #13Not MeGuest
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| > Call customer service have text messages blocked...no charge from VZW
I've done that more times than I can count. VZN keeps resetting and billing
me for messages.
- 10-09-2003, 04:03 PM #14RayGuest
Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!
They don't need a phone listing to call you. They way most of these work
is that they call EVERY number in an exchange (from 0000-9999). The computer
keeps track of numbers that are not used and does not re-call them until
the exchange data is reset and start over again. Therefore changing your
number and unlisted numbers do nothing much to slow them down.
(My son worked for a few days for a company that was quasi-telemarketing.)
Ray
===
William Bray wrote:
>
> There is just one problem. A new national registry is being developed
> so folks with land lines can look up their friend's cell phone numbers.
> This will mean that cell phone numbers are no longer unlisted and that
> Telemarketers will have a ball- on your air time of course. Check with
> alt.Verizon for source.
>
> "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > Reuters /MSNBC reports that he U.S. Federal Trade Commission can go forward
> > with its national "do not call" registry while an appeals court considers
> > whether the list violates telemarketers' free speech rights, the U.S. Court
> > of Appeals said on Wednesday.
> >
> > Full Story @ http://wirelessway.blogspot.com Much more of the days Wireless
> > news
> >
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]
- 10-09-2003, 10:58 PM #15Todd AllcockGuest
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[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> The really bad news is the all the cell phone companies are in on this
> plot. They see it as a multi-billion dollar a year bonus for
> themselves. You pay for the extra minutes you consume telling jerks to
> leave you alone, and you pay to be taken off the list (no matter how
> many times that takes). This is the worst real time "conspiracy" theme
> I have ever come across- because it is real. I just checked it out at
> the Washington Post. These guys are serious. The cell phone industry
> wants to go into the list selling business.
Don't panic, William. The plan will have a voluntary opt-out for anyone
who wants to keep their number private. What they haven't decided
yet is if the default will "listed" (meaning you'll have to request not to
be listed) or "unlisted" (meaning you have to specifically request being
listed.) No one is going to publish your cell number without your
permission.
> An outfit called Zelos surveyed 1,200 cell phone users and has
> recommended that the cell phone list selling business go forward- that
> we wont mind all that much. So much for surveys. A mere 1,200 surveyed
> for a decision that will effect 140 million cell phone users.
Because the survey (correctly) included the information that only cell phone
users that want their number listed would be listed. Who would be strongly
against that?
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