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  1. #1
    PDA Man
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    Reuters /MSNBC reports that he U.S. Federal Trade Commission can go forward
    with its national "do not call" registry while an appeals court considers
    whether the list violates telemarketers' free speech rights, the U.S. Court
    of Appeals said on Wednesday.

    Full Story @ http://wirelessway.blogspot.com Much more of the days Wireless
    news






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  2. #2
    Ray
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    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    PDA Man wrote:
    >
    > Reuters /MSNBC reports that he U.S. Federal Trade Commission can go forward
    > with its national "do not call" registry while an appeals court considers
    > whether the list violates telemarketers' free speech rights, the U.S. Court
    > of Appeals said on Wednesday.
    >
    > Full Story @ http://wirelessway.blogspot.com Much more of the days Wireless
    > news


    And the telemarkerters have already found a loophole. Just got a marketing
    call from Canada.

    Ray



  3. #3
    Hopper
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    > And the telemarkerters have already found a loophole. Just got a
    marketing
    > call from Canada.


    Yea! for internationalization. I called IBM tech support once. The call went
    to India. When they inquired as to which model I was using (an Aptiva) they
    transfered me to Ireland. Odd.

    Hopper





  4. #4
    William Bray
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    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    There is just one problem. A new national registry is being developed
    so folks with land lines can look up their friend's cell phone numbers.
    This will mean that cell phone numbers are no longer unlisted and that
    Telemarketers will have a ball- on your air time of course. Check with
    alt.Verizon for source.

    "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > Reuters /MSNBC reports that he U.S. Federal Trade Commission can go forward
    > with its national "do not call" registry while an appeals court considers
    > whether the list violates telemarketers' free speech rights, the U.S. Court
    > of Appeals said on Wednesday.
    >
    > Full Story @ http://wirelessway.blogspot.com Much more of the days Wireless
    > news
    >
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  5. #5
    Al Klein
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 20:33:06 -0400, Ray <[email protected]> posted in
    alt.cellular.verizon:

    >And the telemarkerters have already found a loophole. Just got a marketing
    >call from Canada.


    Not a problem. US carriers can be made to not carry calls from that
    number to any US number.



  6. #6
    kz
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    What they are doing now is faxing us to death!





  7. #7
    William Bray
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    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    Only if you activated that feature on your cell phone. I refuse to use
    my cell phone for anything other than talking.

    The really bad news is the all the cell phone companies are in on this
    plot. They see it as a multi-billion dollar a year bonus for
    themselves. You pay for the extra minutes you consume telling jerks to
    leave you alone, and you pay to be taken off the list (no matter how
    many times that takes). This is the worst real time "conspiracy" theme
    I have ever come across- because it is real. I just checked it out at
    the Washington Post. These guys are serious. The cell phone industry
    wants to go into the list selling business.

    An outfit called Zelos surveyed 1,200 cell phone users and has
    recommended that the cell phone list selling business go forward- that
    we wont mind all that much. So much for surveys. A mere 1,200 surveyed
    for a decision that will effect 140 million cell phone users.

    "kz" <[email protected]> wrote in article <vuLgb.61144$%h1.44079@sccrnsc02>:
    > What they are doing now is faxing us to death!
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  8. #8
    Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
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    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    What about these text messages that keep coming in? I keep getting billed
    for text services, even though I never open the text messages. I have quite
    a few of them in the queue now and have not been deleting them because I was
    told that to delete them you have to first open them and that involves a
    text messaging charge per message. I get these charges anyway, every month
    and the messages are from random numbers of no one I know. Very annoying to
    have my cell phone ring and it's a text message from a spammer.
    Do Not Call should also include Do Not Text.


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  9. #9
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!


    "Mark & Mary Ann Weiss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > What about these text messages that keep coming in? I keep getting billed
    > for text services, even though I never open the text messages. I have

    quite
    > a few of them in the queue now and have not been deleting them because I

    was
    > told that to delete them you have to first open them and that involves a
    > text messaging charge per message. I get these charges anyway, every month
    > and the messages are from random numbers of no one I know. Very annoying

    to
    > have my cell phone ring and it's a text message from a spammer.
    > Do Not Call should also include Do Not Text.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Take care,
    >
    > Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
    >
    > VIDEO PRODUCTION . FILM SCANNING . AUDIO RESTORATION
    > Hear my Kurzweil Creations at: http://www.dv-clips.com/theater.htm
    > Business sites at:
    > www.dv-clips.com
    > www.mwcomms.com
    > www.adventuresinanimemusic.com
    > -
    >
    >
    >


    I wasn't really into the SMS messaging, and just called CS and had them
    totally blocked. Sounds like you don't really want them if you leave your
    text messages sit unopened. Be aware though that if you do that NOBODY can
    send you SMS messages (I use mobile office and just have people send
    emails).





  10. #10
    Bryan Ritchie
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    Call customer service have text messages blocked...no charge from VZW

    --
    Martty


    "Mark & Mary Ann Weiss" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    <[email protected]>:
    > What about these text messages that keep coming in? I keep getting billed
    > for text services, even though I never open the text messages. I have quite
    > a few of them in the queue now and have not been deleting them because I was
    > told that to delete them you have to first open them and that involves a
    > text messaging charge per message. I get these charges anyway, every month
    > and the messages are from random numbers of no one I know. Very annoying to
    > have my cell phone ring and it's a text message from a spammer.
    > Do Not Call should also include Do Not Text.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Take care,
    >
    > Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
    >
    > VIDEO PRODUCTION . FILM SCANNING . AUDIO RESTORATION
    > Hear my Kurzweil Creations at: http://www.dv-clips.com/theater.htm
    > Business sites at:
    > www.dv-clips.com
    > www.mwcomms.com
    > www.adventuresinanimemusic.com
    > -
    >
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



  11. #11
    CharlesH
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Peter Pan <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >"Mark & Mary Ann Weiss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> What about these text messages that keep coming in? I keep getting billed
    >> for text services, even though I never open the text messages. I have

    >quite
    >> a few of them in the queue now and have not been deleting them because I

    >was
    >> told that to delete them you have to first open them and that involves a
    >> text messaging charge per message. I get these charges anyway, every month
    >> and the messages are from random numbers of no one I know. Very annoying

    >to
    >> have my cell phone ring and it's a text message from a spammer.
    >> Do Not Call should also include Do Not Text.


    Don't know about Cingular or Nextel, but certainly on Verizon, when the phone
    gets the message, it is billed. The system has no way of knowing if you
    go to the menu to actually read them.



  12. #12
    Steven J Sobol
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    In alt.cellular.sprintpcs CharlesH <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Don't know about Cingular or Nextel, but certainly on Verizon, when the phone
    > gets the message, it is billed. The system has no way of knowing if you
    > go to the menu to actually read them.


    A recent ruling makes SMS spam actionable under the TCPA. I'll get a link
    for y'all ASAP.

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    22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * [email protected]



  13. #13
    Not Me
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    | > Call customer service have text messages blocked...no charge from VZW

    I've done that more times than I can count. VZN keeps resetting and billing
    me for messages.





  14. #14
    Ray
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    They don't need a phone listing to call you. They way most of these work
    is that they call EVERY number in an exchange (from 0000-9999). The computer
    keeps track of numbers that are not used and does not re-call them until
    the exchange data is reset and start over again. Therefore changing your
    number and unlisted numbers do nothing much to slow them down.

    (My son worked for a few days for a company that was quasi-telemarketing.)

    Ray
    ===
    William Bray wrote:
    >
    > There is just one problem. A new national registry is being developed
    > so folks with land lines can look up their friend's cell phone numbers.
    > This will mean that cell phone numbers are no longer unlisted and that
    > Telemarketers will have a ball- on your air time of course. Check with
    > alt.Verizon for source.
    >
    > "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in article
    > <[email protected]>:
    > > Reuters /MSNBC reports that he U.S. Federal Trade Commission can go forward
    > > with its national "do not call" registry while an appeals court considers
    > > whether the list violates telemarketers' free speech rights, the U.S. Court
    > > of Appeals said on Wednesday.
    > >
    > > Full Story @ http://wirelessway.blogspot.com Much more of the days Wireless
    > > news
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]




  15. #15
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: news: Do Not Call Registry Able to Go forward & Enforceable! AGAIN!!

    [email protected] (William Bray) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > The really bad news is the all the cell phone companies are in on this
    > plot. They see it as a multi-billion dollar a year bonus for
    > themselves. You pay for the extra minutes you consume telling jerks to
    > leave you alone, and you pay to be taken off the list (no matter how
    > many times that takes). This is the worst real time "conspiracy" theme
    > I have ever come across- because it is real. I just checked it out at
    > the Washington Post. These guys are serious. The cell phone industry
    > wants to go into the list selling business.


    Don't panic, William. The plan will have a voluntary opt-out for anyone
    who wants to keep their number private. What they haven't decided
    yet is if the default will "listed" (meaning you'll have to request not to
    be listed) or "unlisted" (meaning you have to specifically request being
    listed.) No one is going to publish your cell number without your
    permission.

    > An outfit called Zelos surveyed 1,200 cell phone users and has
    > recommended that the cell phone list selling business go forward- that
    > we wont mind all that much. So much for surveys. A mere 1,200 surveyed
    > for a decision that will effect 140 million cell phone users.


    Because the survey (correctly) included the information that only cell phone
    users that want their number listed would be listed. Who would be strongly
    against that?



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