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- 10-28-2003, 05:31 AM #1AwakeGuest
Illusion of Invincibility Shattered -- Painfully
Brian Avery thought his U.S. passport would protect him when he journeyed
to the Mideast to be a 'human shield.'
By Allen G. Breed, Associated Press Writer
CHAPEL HILL, N.C. - When Brian Avery called home in early January to say
he was heading for Israel, his parents realized that they could not stop
him. But they had to try.
"This issue has been there for so long," his father, Bob Avery, tried to
reason with his son, 24. "How do you think you can change it?"
"If everyone took the position that there's nothing I can do, then
nothing's ever going to change," Brian replied.
Brian knew that peace activists had been wounded in the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict - and that a humanitarian worker had been
killed the year before. But that had supposedly been an accident, a fluke.
Voicing another fear, Bob Avery brought up the imprisoned "American
Taliban," John Walker Lindh, who was nearly killed fighting U.S. troops in
Afghanistan.
"I'm not going to be a fighter," Brian assured him. "I'm going to report
on the events and write articles."
The words "human shield" didn't come up until later.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Julie Avery had always called her son Brian "my free spirit."
The ponytailed rock drummer had studied music in college, but dropped out
after a year to work on an organic farm. He worked with the homeless and
poor in Chicago.
Brian viewed the world in terms of the big guy versus the little guy, the
corporate behemoth against the family farmer, Goliath and David.
While studying herbal medicine in Albuquerque last winter, Brian had
become involved with the local Arab-Jewish Peace Alliance. Eventually, he
decided to volunteer with a group called the International Solidarity
Movement.
Founded in 2001, ISM operates in the West Bank and Gaza Strip - lands that
Israel seized in 1967 and 1973 after attacks by Arab neighbors who denied
the 56-year-old Jewish state's right to exist.
Some Israelis see these lands as a necessary buffer against continuing
sniper attacks and suicide bombings; Jewish settlers claim them as a
biblical birthright.
For Palestinians, the Israeli presence there is a heavy-handed occupation
of their homeland. They bridle at Israeli Army checkpoints and other
restrictions.
The United Nations has called for Israeli withdrawal. There have been
pullbacks, but renewed violence has begotten reoccupation.
The latest Palestinian up- rising began three years ago. Since then, 2,400
Palestinians and 830 Israelis have died in the fighting.
ISM's founders saw themselves as an international peacekeeping and
monitoring presence that the United Nations could not or would not
provide. To the Israeli government, ISM's activists are meddlers whose
actions range from negligence to outright abetting of terrorism.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Avery hadn't been in the West Bank city of Nablus a week when his
parents got a lengthy e-mail.
His group's main "actions," as he put it in the Jan. 31 note, consisted of
"being monitors and witnesses at military checkpoints" and "lodging in the
homes of the families of individuals who chose suicide bombing as their
method of resisting the occupation."
Brian's parents had pictured him handing out food and medicine. Instead,
he was negotiating with armed border guards and occupying "martyr houses."
Brian told them that he believed that his American citizenship put him in
a special position.
On the one hand, it made him feel partially responsible for what was
happening in the territories because of U.S. aid to Israel. At the same
time, though, he saw his American passport as a unique asset - a "badge of
invincibility" that he would share with the Palestinians.
Six weeks later, the Averys learned just how little protection a U.S.
passport provided.
On March 16, another ISM member, Rachel Corrie, 23, a college student from
Olympia, Wash., was crushed to death while trying to stop an Israeli
bulldozer demolishing a row of Palestinian homes in the Gaza Strip town of
Rafah.
Israeli officials said that she was in a blind spot and that the driver
couldn't see her, despite her bright red vest.
"Please get out of Palestine while you can!!!!" Julie Avery begged her son
in an e-mail afterward.
But Brian had trained with Rachel, and her death made him even more
determined.
Still, he tried to reassure his parents: He had a couple more weeks left
on his visa, after which he would see them. Besides, he was headed north
to Jenin, even farther from the volatile Gaza Strip.
"Don't worry, Mom," he said in a rare telephone call. "They don't shoot
Americans."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Avery was sitting in his basement office on April 5, watching the rain
that had washed out his softball game, when the phone rang.
"I'm afraid I've got some very, very bad news for you," came a voice in
heavily accented English.
It was Tobias Karlsson, head of ISM's Jenin office.
Just minutes before, he and Brian had heard gunfire in the streets below.
The city was under curfew, but the two went out to meet four other
activists and investigate.
That's when they noticed two Israeli vehicles rumbling up behind them.
Slowly, they backed up under a street lamp and put their arms out at their
sides to let the vehicles pass, Karlsson said. Only Brian was wearing a
reflective vest, identifying him as a peace activist.
Suddenly, they were being pelted by bits of shattered pavement.
The Israelis would often fire two or three warning shots at a wall,
Karlsson said, but this time, 10, 15, 20 rounds were fired.
When the shooting stopped, he turned to find Brian lying on his stomach in
the street, blood seeping between the fingers wrapped around his face.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Three days later, Bob Avery arrived at Haifa's Rambam Medical Center. From
the doorway of the intensive car unit, he caught sight of his son.
Brian's face was twice its normal size, its hue a surreal yellowish-purple
from massive bruising.
X-rays showed that the bullet had entered just below the right tear duct.
There was a large hole where Brian's nasal bone should have been. The
bullet exited the left cheek. Half of the teeth were missing on the top
left side and another on the bottom. His lower left jaw had been sheered
in half.
"He'll never go back together," Avery said to himself.
April 10 was Brian's 25th birthday. The hospital staff sang to him. The
next day, a surgeon laid out a plan to harvest bone from the sides of
Brian's skull to rebuild the nasal area.
Bob Avery tried to cheer his son. "They said they needed a model for what
you've got to look like. I gave them a picture of Elvis."
This would be just the beginning of the effort to reconstruct Brian's
shattered face.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Israel Defense Force released its findings on Brian's shooting in late
May.
The armored personnel carrier crew reported firing on three occasions that
day, but no casualties were identified.
But the army noted that vehicles enforcing the curfew were directed to
keep their hatches closed for protection, creating "enhanced chances of
misidentification and misunderstandings."
The report's conclusion: "Mr. Avery's injury is an unfortunate incident."
Bob Avery, a 30-year U.S. Navy veteran, was outraged. Through his own
investigation, he made what he considered a key discovery:
ISM had said Brian's injury occurred at 6:30 p.m., a time when the army
showed the APC several blocks away.
Actually, it was an hour later. Israel had just begun observing the
equivalent of daylight-saving time, but clocks in the Palestinian sector
were still set an hour earlier.
That put the Israeli vehicles in the shooting area around the right time,
Avery concluded. But the IDF would not budge.
It paid for Brian's treatment in Haifa. But when he left the hospital, he
was on his own.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
By the time that Brian returned to the United States on June 14, 2 1/2
months on a liquid diet had shrunken the former defensive lineman to 115
pounds.
When he talks, the sound echoes inside his skull. He cannot breathe
through his nose and he has no sense of smell.
He faces at least five more rounds of surgery in the coming year. More
bone will be taken from his skull to rebuild the left jaw so that
artificial teeth can be implanted.
He has no insurance.
Brian thinks often of Rachel Corrie. He thinks of Tom Hurndall, an ISM
activist from Great Britain who was shot the same month by IDF forces
during a Gaza protest and is brain dead in England.
Brian knows that he's the lucky one.
He regrets that his medical needs have thrown his parents' retirement
plans into financial chaos. He regrets that he may never again smell a
rose or smile as before.
But he insists that he does not regret his decision to go.
And he wants to return to the region someday. Only next time, he'll go as
a true observer.
He has no more illusions of invincibility.
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- 10-28-2003, 10:06 AM #2DreamPagesGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
WTF does this have to do with Sprint? You are so one-side it's
pathetic. I guess you approve of palestinians going into cafes and
buses blowing up innocent women & children?
Israel warns the Palestinians when they are about to retaliate so they
can leave building before they're attached. Israel targets militants
and terroists. The palestinians target innocent civilians.
There's no comparison.
You're so pathetic it's sickening. Blow yourself up and make this
world and this forum a better place.
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- 10-28-2003, 12:21 PM #3Dr WakkGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
>ILLUSION OF "INTELLIGENCE" SHATTERED -- PAINFULLY
(HA HA HA HA HAH HAH HAA HAWWWW!)
good bye AWAKE
you are really ASLEEP.
"Awake" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Illusion of Invincibility Shattered -- Painfully
>
> Brian Avery thought his U.S. passport would protect him when he journeyed
> to the Mideast to be a 'human shield.'
>
> By Allen G. Breed, Associated Press Writer
>
>
>
> CHAPEL HILL, N.C. - When Brian Avery called home in early January to say
> he was heading for Israel, his parents realized that they could not stop
> him. But they had to try.
>
> "This issue has been there for so long," his father, Bob Avery, tried to
> reason with his son, 24. "How do you think you can change it?"
>
> "If everyone took the position that there's nothing I can do, then
> nothing's ever going to change," Brian replied.
>
> Brian knew that peace activists had been wounded in the
> Israeli-Palestinian conflict - and that a humanitarian worker had been
> killed the year before. But that had supposedly been an accident, a fluke.
>
> Voicing another fear, Bob Avery brought up the imprisoned "American
> Taliban," John Walker Lindh, who was nearly killed fighting U.S. troops in
> Afghanistan.
>
> "I'm not going to be a fighter," Brian assured him. "I'm going to report
> on the events and write articles."
>
> The words "human shield" didn't come up until later.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Julie Avery had always called her son Brian "my free spirit."
>
> The ponytailed rock drummer had studied music in college, but dropped out
> after a year to work on an organic farm. He worked with the homeless and
> poor in Chicago.
>
> Brian viewed the world in terms of the big guy versus the little guy, the
> corporate behemoth against the family farmer, Goliath and David.
>
> While studying herbal medicine in Albuquerque last winter, Brian had
> become involved with the local Arab-Jewish Peace Alliance. Eventually, he
> decided to volunteer with a group called the International Solidarity
> Movement.
>
> Founded in 2001, ISM operates in the West Bank and Gaza Strip - lands that
> Israel seized in 1967 and 1973 after attacks by Arab neighbors who denied
> the 56-year-old Jewish state's right to exist.
>
> Some Israelis see these lands as a necessary buffer against continuing
> sniper attacks and suicide bombings; Jewish settlers claim them as a
> biblical birthright.
>
> For Palestinians, the Israeli presence there is a heavy-handed occupation
> of their homeland. They bridle at Israeli Army checkpoints and other
> restrictions.
>
> The United Nations has called for Israeli withdrawal. There have been
> pullbacks, but renewed violence has begotten reoccupation.
>
> The latest Palestinian up- rising began three years ago. Since then, 2,400
> Palestinians and 830 Israelis have died in the fighting.
>
> ISM's founders saw themselves as an international peacekeeping and
> monitoring presence that the United Nations could not or would not
> provide. To the Israeli government, ISM's activists are meddlers whose
> actions range from negligence to outright abetting of terrorism.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Brian Avery hadn't been in the West Bank city of Nablus a week when his
> parents got a lengthy e-mail.
>
> His group's main "actions," as he put it in the Jan. 31 note, consisted of
> "being monitors and witnesses at military checkpoints" and "lodging in the
> homes of the families of individuals who chose suicide bombing as their
> method of resisting the occupation."
>
> Brian's parents had pictured him handing out food and medicine. Instead,
> he was negotiating with armed border guards and occupying "martyr houses."
>
> Brian told them that he believed that his American citizenship put him in
> a special position.
>
> On the one hand, it made him feel partially responsible for what was
> happening in the territories because of U.S. aid to Israel. At the same
> time, though, he saw his American passport as a unique asset - a "badge of
> invincibility" that he would share with the Palestinians.
>
> Six weeks later, the Averys learned just how little protection a U.S.
> passport provided.
>
> On March 16, another ISM member, Rachel Corrie, 23, a college student from
> Olympia, Wash., was crushed to death while trying to stop an Israeli
> bulldozer demolishing a row of Palestinian homes in the Gaza Strip town of
> Rafah.
>
> Israeli officials said that she was in a blind spot and that the driver
> couldn't see her, despite her bright red vest.
>
> "Please get out of Palestine while you can!!!!" Julie Avery begged her son
> in an e-mail afterward.
>
> But Brian had trained with Rachel, and her death made him even more
> determined.
>
> Still, he tried to reassure his parents: He had a couple more weeks left
> on his visa, after which he would see them. Besides, he was headed north
> to Jenin, even farther from the volatile Gaza Strip.
>
> "Don't worry, Mom," he said in a rare telephone call. "They don't shoot
> Americans."
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Bob Avery was sitting in his basement office on April 5, watching the rain
> that had washed out his softball game, when the phone rang.
>
> "I'm afraid I've got some very, very bad news for you," came a voice in
> heavily accented English.
>
> It was Tobias Karlsson, head of ISM's Jenin office.
>
> Just minutes before, he and Brian had heard gunfire in the streets below.
> The city was under curfew, but the two went out to meet four other
> activists and investigate.
>
> That's when they noticed two Israeli vehicles rumbling up behind them.
>
> Slowly, they backed up under a street lamp and put their arms out at their
> sides to let the vehicles pass, Karlsson said. Only Brian was wearing a
> reflective vest, identifying him as a peace activist.
>
> Suddenly, they were being pelted by bits of shattered pavement.
>
> The Israelis would often fire two or three warning shots at a wall,
> Karlsson said, but this time, 10, 15, 20 rounds were fired.
>
> When the shooting stopped, he turned to find Brian lying on his stomach in
> the street, blood seeping between the fingers wrapped around his face.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Three days later, Bob Avery arrived at Haifa's Rambam Medical Center. From
> the doorway of the intensive car unit, he caught sight of his son.
>
> Brian's face was twice its normal size, its hue a surreal yellowish-purple
> from massive bruising.
>
> X-rays showed that the bullet had entered just below the right tear duct.
> There was a large hole where Brian's nasal bone should have been. The
> bullet exited the left cheek. Half of the teeth were missing on the top
> left side and another on the bottom. His lower left jaw had been sheered
> in half.
>
> "He'll never go back together," Avery said to himself.
>
> April 10 was Brian's 25th birthday. The hospital staff sang to him. The
> next day, a surgeon laid out a plan to harvest bone from the sides of
> Brian's skull to rebuild the nasal area.
>
> Bob Avery tried to cheer his son. "They said they needed a model for what
> you've got to look like. I gave them a picture of Elvis."
>
> This would be just the beginning of the effort to reconstruct Brian's
> shattered face.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> The Israel Defense Force released its findings on Brian's shooting in late
> May.
>
> The armored personnel carrier crew reported firing on three occasions that
> day, but no casualties were identified.
>
> But the army noted that vehicles enforcing the curfew were directed to
> keep their hatches closed for protection, creating "enhanced chances of
> misidentification and misunderstandings."
>
> The report's conclusion: "Mr. Avery's injury is an unfortunate incident."
>
> Bob Avery, a 30-year U.S. Navy veteran, was outraged. Through his own
> investigation, he made what he considered a key discovery:
>
> ISM had said Brian's injury occurred at 6:30 p.m., a time when the army
> showed the APC several blocks away.
>
> Actually, it was an hour later. Israel had just begun observing the
> equivalent of daylight-saving time, but clocks in the Palestinian sector
> were still set an hour earlier.
>
> That put the Israeli vehicles in the shooting area around the right time,
> Avery concluded. But the IDF would not budge.
>
> It paid for Brian's treatment in Haifa. But when he left the hospital, he
> was on his own.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> By the time that Brian returned to the United States on June 14, 2 1/2
> months on a liquid diet had shrunken the former defensive lineman to 115
> pounds.
>
> When he talks, the sound echoes inside his skull. He cannot breathe
> through his nose and he has no sense of smell.
>
> He faces at least five more rounds of surgery in the coming year. More
> bone will be taken from his skull to rebuild the left jaw so that
> artificial teeth can be implanted.
>
> He has no insurance.
>
> Brian thinks often of Rachel Corrie. He thinks of Tom Hurndall, an ISM
> activist from Great Britain who was shot the same month by IDF forces
> during a Gaza protest and is brain dead in England.
>
> Brian knows that he's the lucky one.
>
> He regrets that his medical needs have thrown his parents' retirement
> plans into financial chaos. He regrets that he may never again smell a
> rose or smile as before.
>
> But he insists that he does not regret his decision to go.
>
> And he wants to return to the region someday. Only next time, he'll go as
> a true observer.
>
> He has no more illusions of invincibility.
>
>
> __________________________________
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>
- 10-28-2003, 02:23 PM #4JRWGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
See, I told you those Early Temination Fees were rough!
- 10-29-2003, 01:08 PM #5DrWakkGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
"""ouch!!"""
"JRW" <no_addy@no_.com> wrote in message
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> See, I told you those Early Temination Fees were rough!
>
- 10-29-2003, 11:01 PM #6marcusGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
>
> WTF does this have to do with Sprint? You are so one-side it's
> pathetic. I guess you approve of palestinians going into cafes and
> buses blowing up innocent women & children?
>
you form a lot of opinion on a guess, but anyway, israelis dropped plenty
of heavy 2-ton bombs on busy intersections to get one guy in a car at a
traffic light, or blew up entire apartment buildings with people in it
because "a guy" they wanted was in an aparmtent on one of the top floors,
or on many occasions they announce the beginning of curfew by spraying the
streets and buildings with bullets at random (Reuters actually has an
interview with one Israeli commander bragging that it is actually a good
tactic), or israeli air force breaking sound barrier at low altitude over
arab towns to make them think they are being bombed, or building roads
right through people backyards, (while weaving nicely around jewish
properties), eeh, whatever,
i only dared to respond in a Sprint group because you accused the other guy
of being one-sided at the same time presenting your overly simplistic (and
one-sided) view on things yourself. One-sided is as one-sided does...
Nobody out there (or out here at least) approves of sucide bombers, but on
the same token don't expect approval of the Israelis either.
- 10-30-2003, 08:35 PM #7Guest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
As I told you on another group, pick a side, grab a rifle and go
fight. The rest of us just don't care that these people want to kill
each other. You need to put your hatred to use and if that happens to
be killing the "jews" that you hate so much, so be it.
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:31:42 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected]er (Awake) wrote:
>Illusion of Invincibility Shattered -- Painfully
>
>Brian Avery thought his U.S. passport would protect him when he journeyed
>to the Mideast to be a 'human shield.'
>
>By Allen G. Breed, Associated Press Writer
>
>
>
>CHAPEL HILL, N.C. - When Brian Avery called home in early January to say
>he was heading for Israel, his parents realized that they could not stop
>him. But they had to try.
>
>"This issue has been there for so long," his father, Bob Avery, tried to
>reason with his son, 24. "How do you think you can change it?"
>
>"If everyone took the position that there's nothing I can do, then
>nothing's ever going to change," Brian replied.
>
>Brian knew that peace activists had been wounded in the
>Israeli-Palestinian conflict - and that a humanitarian worker had been
>killed the year before. But that had supposedly been an accident, a fluke.
>
>Voicing another fear, Bob Avery brought up the imprisoned "American
>Taliban," John Walker Lindh, who was nearly killed fighting U.S. troops in
>Afghanistan.
>
>"I'm not going to be a fighter," Brian assured him. "I'm going to report
>on the events and write articles."
>
>The words "human shield" didn't come up until later.
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>Julie Avery had always called her son Brian "my free spirit."
>
>The ponytailed rock drummer had studied music in college, but dropped out
>after a year to work on an organic farm. He worked with the homeless and
>poor in Chicago.
>
>Brian viewed the world in terms of the big guy versus the little guy, the
>corporate behemoth against the family farmer, Goliath and David.
>
>While studying herbal medicine in Albuquerque last winter, Brian had
>become involved with the local Arab-Jewish Peace Alliance. Eventually, he
>decided to volunteer with a group called the International Solidarity
>Movement.
>
>Founded in 2001, ISM operates in the West Bank and Gaza Strip - lands that
>Israel seized in 1967 and 1973 after attacks by Arab neighbors who denied
>the 56-year-old Jewish state's right to exist.
>
>Some Israelis see these lands as a necessary buffer against continuing
>sniper attacks and suicide bombings; Jewish settlers claim them as a
>biblical birthright.
>
>For Palestinians, the Israeli presence there is a heavy-handed occupation
>of their homeland. They bridle at Israeli Army checkpoints and other
>restrictions.
>
>The United Nations has called for Israeli withdrawal. There have been
>pullbacks, but renewed violence has begotten reoccupation.
>
>The latest Palestinian up- rising began three years ago. Since then, 2,400
>Palestinians and 830 Israelis have died in the fighting.
>
>ISM's founders saw themselves as an international peacekeeping and
>monitoring presence that the United Nations could not or would not
>provide. To the Israeli government, ISM's activists are meddlers whose
>actions range from negligence to outright abetting of terrorism.
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>Brian Avery hadn't been in the West Bank city of Nablus a week when his
>parents got a lengthy e-mail.
>
>His group's main "actions," as he put it in the Jan. 31 note, consisted of
>"being monitors and witnesses at military checkpoints" and "lodging in the
>homes of the families of individuals who chose suicide bombing as their
>method of resisting the occupation."
>
>Brian's parents had pictured him handing out food and medicine. Instead,
>he was negotiating with armed border guards and occupying "martyr houses."
>
>Brian told them that he believed that his American citizenship put him in
>a special position.
>
>On the one hand, it made him feel partially responsible for what was
>happening in the territories because of U.S. aid to Israel. At the same
>time, though, he saw his American passport as a unique asset - a "badge of
>invincibility" that he would share with the Palestinians.
>
>Six weeks later, the Averys learned just how little protection a U.S.
>passport provided.
>
>On March 16, another ISM member, Rachel Corrie, 23, a college student from
>Olympia, Wash., was crushed to death while trying to stop an Israeli
>bulldozer demolishing a row of Palestinian homes in the Gaza Strip town of
>Rafah.
>
>Israeli officials said that she was in a blind spot and that the driver
>couldn't see her, despite her bright red vest.
>
>"Please get out of Palestine while you can!!!!" Julie Avery begged her son
>in an e-mail afterward.
>
>But Brian had trained with Rachel, and her death made him even more
>determined.
>
>Still, he tried to reassure his parents: He had a couple more weeks left
>on his visa, after which he would see them. Besides, he was headed north
>to Jenin, even farther from the volatile Gaza Strip.
>
>"Don't worry, Mom," he said in a rare telephone call. "They don't shoot
>Americans."
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>Bob Avery was sitting in his basement office on April 5, watching the rain
>that had washed out his softball game, when the phone rang.
>
>"I'm afraid I've got some very, very bad news for you," came a voice in
>heavily accented English.
>
>It was Tobias Karlsson, head of ISM's Jenin office.
>
>Just minutes before, he and Brian had heard gunfire in the streets below.
>The city was under curfew, but the two went out to meet four other
>activists and investigate.
>
>That's when they noticed two Israeli vehicles rumbling up behind them.
>
>Slowly, they backed up under a street lamp and put their arms out at their
>sides to let the vehicles pass, Karlsson said. Only Brian was wearing a
>reflective vest, identifying him as a peace activist.
>
>Suddenly, they were being pelted by bits of shattered pavement.
>
>The Israelis would often fire two or three warning shots at a wall,
>Karlsson said, but this time, 10, 15, 20 rounds were fired.
>
>When the shooting stopped, he turned to find Brian lying on his stomach in
>the street, blood seeping between the fingers wrapped around his face.
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>Three days later, Bob Avery arrived at Haifa's Rambam Medical Center. From
>the doorway of the intensive car unit, he caught sight of his son.
>
>Brian's face was twice its normal size, its hue a surreal yellowish-purple
>from massive bruising.
>
>X-rays showed that the bullet had entered just below the right tear duct.
>There was a large hole where Brian's nasal bone should have been. The
>bullet exited the left cheek. Half of the teeth were missing on the top
>left side and another on the bottom. His lower left jaw had been sheered
>in half.
>
>"He'll never go back together," Avery said to himself.
>
>April 10 was Brian's 25th birthday. The hospital staff sang to him. The
>next day, a surgeon laid out a plan to harvest bone from the sides of
>Brian's skull to rebuild the nasal area.
>
>Bob Avery tried to cheer his son. "They said they needed a model for what
>you've got to look like. I gave them a picture of Elvis."
>
>This would be just the beginning of the effort to reconstruct Brian's
>shattered face.
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>The Israel Defense Force released its findings on Brian's shooting in late
>May.
>
>The armored personnel carrier crew reported firing on three occasions that
>day, but no casualties were identified.
>
>But the army noted that vehicles enforcing the curfew were directed to
>keep their hatches closed for protection, creating "enhanced chances of
>misidentification and misunderstandings."
>
>The report's conclusion: "Mr. Avery's injury is an unfortunate incident."
>
>Bob Avery, a 30-year U.S. Navy veteran, was outraged. Through his own
>investigation, he made what he considered a key discovery:
>
>ISM had said Brian's injury occurred at 6:30 p.m., a time when the army
>showed the APC several blocks away.
>
>Actually, it was an hour later. Israel had just begun observing the
>equivalent of daylight-saving time, but clocks in the Palestinian sector
>were still set an hour earlier.
>
>That put the Israeli vehicles in the shooting area around the right time,
>Avery concluded. But the IDF would not budge.
>
>It paid for Brian's treatment in Haifa. But when he left the hospital, he
>was on his own.
>
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>By the time that Brian returned to the United States on June 14, 2 1/2
>months on a liquid diet had shrunken the former defensive lineman to 115
>pounds.
>
>When he talks, the sound echoes inside his skull. He cannot breathe
>through his nose and he has no sense of smell.
>
>He faces at least five more rounds of surgery in the coming year. More
>bone will be taken from his skull to rebuild the left jaw so that
>artificial teeth can be implanted.
>
>He has no insurance.
>
>Brian thinks often of Rachel Corrie. He thinks of Tom Hurndall, an ISM
>activist from Great Britain who was shot the same month by IDF forces
>during a Gaza protest and is brain dead in England.
>
>Brian knows that he's the lucky one.
>
>He regrets that his medical needs have thrown his parents' retirement
>plans into financial chaos. He regrets that he may never again smell a
>rose or smile as before.
>
>But he insists that he does not regret his decision to go.
>
>And he wants to return to the region someday. Only next time, he'll go as
>a true observer.
>
>He has no more illusions of invincibility.
>
>
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- 11-03-2003, 08:01 PM #8scannellGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
The difference is that the Israelis are willing to make peace with a 2 state
solution and the Palestinians (including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah,
Hizbollah, etc. are not. Case closed.
"marcus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> > WTF does this have to do with Sprint? You are so one-side it's
> > pathetic. I guess you approve of palestinians going into cafes and
> > buses blowing up innocent women & children?
> >
> you form a lot of opinion on a guess, but anyway, israelis dropped plenty
> of heavy 2-ton bombs on busy intersections to get one guy in a car at a
> traffic light, or blew up entire apartment buildings with people in it
> because "a guy" they wanted was in an aparmtent on one of the top floors,
> or on many occasions they announce the beginning of curfew by spraying the
> streets and buildings with bullets at random (Reuters actually has an
> interview with one Israeli commander bragging that it is actually a good
> tactic), or israeli air force breaking sound barrier at low altitude over
> arab towns to make them think they are being bombed, or building roads
> right through people backyards, (while weaving nicely around jewish
> properties), eeh, whatever,
>
> i only dared to respond in a Sprint group because you accused the other
guy
> of being one-sided at the same time presenting your overly simplistic (and
> one-sided) view on things yourself. One-sided is as one-sided does...
> Nobody out there (or out here at least) approves of sucide bombers, but on
> the same token don't expect approval of the Israelis either.
- 11-04-2003, 11:33 AM #9IanGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
"scannell" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> The difference is that the Israelis are willing to make peace with a 2 state
> solution and the Palestinians (including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah,
> Hizbollah, etc. are not. Case closed.
Unfortunately BOTH sides are in the WRONG.
NEITHER side has shown any propensity to work for real peace.
Suicide bombings are acts of terrorism.
Occupying another country and allowing hundreds of new settlements in
the other country are acts of war.
Until BOTH sides admit they are BOTH in the wrong and actually sit
down to address ALL the wrongs there will be no peace.
- 11-04-2003, 01:46 PM #10Guest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
On 4 Nov 2003 09:33:47 -0800, [email protected] (Ian) wrote:
>"scannell" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> The difference is that the Israelis are willing to make peace with a 2 state
>> solution and the Palestinians (including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah,
>> Hizbollah, etc. are not. Case closed.
>
>Unfortunately BOTH sides are in the WRONG.
>
>NEITHER side has shown any propensity to work for real peace.
>
>Suicide bombings are acts of terrorism.
>Occupying another country and allowing hundreds of new settlements in
>the other country are acts of war.
>
>Until BOTH sides admit they are BOTH in the wrong and actually sit
>down to address ALL the wrongs there will be no peace.
While you seen to have a much better grasp on this than most of
these goons, you are posting to a group that will never see it. Try
rec.running as I have been able to trace that group as a common point.
- 11-04-2003, 06:52 PM #11scannellGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
Occupying what other country??????
Since when are Jews (which I am not one) in Jerusalem, Nazareth, Bethlehem,
Jericho, Hebron, etc. etc. constitute an occupying force. Check your
history books to learn a bit of Historic Geography. Not only isn't there a
country of Palestine, there are no Palestinians. The so called Palestinians
are Arabs that live in the area we call Palestine. The Arabs control 98% of
the land in the middle east and the richest portions of that to boot.
The Israelites tried to have peace at the inception of modern Israel in
1948, but it was rejected at the point of a gun by the Arabs. It has
happened repeatedly including Clinton's plan in Oslo, which was bragged as
the Peace Opportunity and then declined by the Arabs. (Arafat, an Arab of
Egyptian origin, to be exact.)
You are right, there most likely will be no peace, because the Arab
negotiators cannot (and won't) control the deal breakers in their various
militias. But don't tell me that Jews in Historical Israel is a occupation
since the Arabs can't have 100% of lands (and oil) of the middle east.
Sorry, but it is to easy to just cast general dispersions against both.
Though both have done bad things, it is exclusively the Arabs that vow to
not allow peace. There you have it.
scannell
cols. oh
"Ian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "scannell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > The difference is that the Israelis are willing to make peace with a 2
state
> > solution and the Palestinians (including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Fatah,
> > Hizbollah, etc. are not. Case closed.
>
> Unfortunately BOTH sides are in the WRONG.
>
> NEITHER side has shown any propensity to work for real peace.
>
> Suicide bombings are acts of terrorism.
> Occupying another country and allowing hundreds of new settlements in
> the other country are acts of war.
>
> Until BOTH sides admit they are BOTH in the wrong and actually sit
> down to address ALL the wrongs there will be no peace.
- 11-04-2003, 11:01 PM #12GprestonianGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
LOL geez, how naive can ya be?
"Watch out for those bulldozers!" ~ Rachel Corrie.
LOL
[email protected]er (Awake) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Brian told them that he believed that his American citizenship put him in
a special position.
- 11-13-2003, 06:23 PM #13marcusGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
Gee, thanks for demonstrating what's wrong with the middle east. "There is
no Palestine? There are no Palestinians?" As I recall prior to 1948 there
was no Israel and there were no Israelis... whatever dude...
> Occupying what other country??????
>
The one that's outside of Israeli borders.
> The Israelites tried to have peace at the inception of modern Israel
> in 1948, but it was rejected at the point of a gun by the Arabs.
You mean when Israeli armies bombed the hell out of the Arabs who lived in
what is now Isreal, and forced hundreds of thousands of people out of the
country. Israelis took their houses, farms, livelihood.
> It has happened repeatedly including Clinton's plan in Oslo, which was
> bragged as the Peace Opportunity and then declined by the Arabs.
> (Arafat, an Arab of Egyptian origin, to be exact.)
>
That's cause Israelis scaled back their offer to what would have amounted
to Palestinian reservations (kind of like American Indians) within Israeli
territory. Palestinians want normal country - not a disconnected pile of
reservations.
> You are right, there most likely will be no peace, because the Arab
> negotiators cannot (and won't) control the deal breakers in their
> various militias. But don't tell me that Jews in Historical Israel is
> a occupation since the Arabs can't have 100% of lands (and oil) of the
> middle east.
>
> Sorry, but it is to easy to just cast general dispersions against
> both. Though both have done bad things, it is exclusively the Arabs
> that vow to not allow peace. There you have it.
>
It goes for both. Arab countries have repeated many times that they want
two-state solution. But you have to be willing to listen. It seems some
Israelis like to keep their heads in a bucket and refuse to listen. They
pretend to fight terrorism while confiscating more land. Like with this
wall. Gees, any Jew from Ukraine, Latvia (etc.) can move right in to any
part of West Bank or Gaza, but a family (an arab family only) that has
lived there for generations must obtain residence permits to see if they be
allowed to stay.
The way to fight terrorism is not to make 7 year old boys watch their
family houses demolished, fields burned, family members and neighbor killed
or arrested, watch curfew announcements by random bullet spraying into
houses without offering any hope or an alternative to joining a terror
group. 80% of palestinian are unemployed, 50% live under poverty line.
Groups like Hamas provide relief to families, they provide shelter if a
house gets destroyed (Israeli army or not), food if there is nothing to
feed your family with. Gees, how about competing with that? What is Israel
offering to make sure that that 7-year old does not join hamas one day?
Absolutely nothing.
The problem is that you have hate fuelled, extremists on both sides running
the show: Sharon and his government on one side and hamas and others on the
other.
- 11-18-2003, 03:16 AM #14tuppyGuest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
So what does this have to do with cell phones? We can read this same crap
in a zillion political newsgroups, the editorial section of every newspaper
in the world. Take your editorializing elsewhere.
BTW.....the name "eretz Yisroayl" (the land of Israel) appeared in the Old
Testament long before there was a British Empire to give name to a
Palestine. Get your facts straight.
"marcus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Gee, thanks for demonstrating what's wrong with the middle east. "There is
> no Palestine? There are no Palestinians?" As I recall prior to 1948 there
> was no Israel and there were no Israelis... whatever dude...
>
> > Occupying what other country??????
> >
>
> The one that's outside of Israeli borders.
>
> > The Israelites tried to have peace at the inception of modern Israel
> > in 1948, but it was rejected at the point of a gun by the Arabs.
>
> You mean when Israeli armies bombed the hell out of the Arabs who lived in
> what is now Isreal, and forced hundreds of thousands of people out of the
> country. Israelis took their houses, farms, livelihood.
>
> > It has happened repeatedly including Clinton's plan in Oslo, which was
> > bragged as the Peace Opportunity and then declined by the Arabs.
> > (Arafat, an Arab of Egyptian origin, to be exact.)
> >
>
> That's cause Israelis scaled back their offer to what would have amounted
> to Palestinian reservations (kind of like American Indians) within Israeli
> territory. Palestinians want normal country - not a disconnected pile of
> reservations.
>
> > You are right, there most likely will be no peace, because the Arab
> > negotiators cannot (and won't) control the deal breakers in their
> > various militias. But don't tell me that Jews in Historical Israel is
> > a occupation since the Arabs can't have 100% of lands (and oil) of the
> > middle east.
> >
> > Sorry, but it is to easy to just cast general dispersions against
> > both. Though both have done bad things, it is exclusively the Arabs
> > that vow to not allow peace. There you have it.
> >
>
> It goes for both. Arab countries have repeated many times that they want
> two-state solution. But you have to be willing to listen. It seems some
> Israelis like to keep their heads in a bucket and refuse to listen. They
> pretend to fight terrorism while confiscating more land. Like with this
> wall. Gees, any Jew from Ukraine, Latvia (etc.) can move right in to any
> part of West Bank or Gaza, but a family (an arab family only) that has
> lived there for generations must obtain residence permits to see if they
be
> allowed to stay.
>
> The way to fight terrorism is not to make 7 year old boys watch their
> family houses demolished, fields burned, family members and neighbor
killed
> or arrested, watch curfew announcements by random bullet spraying into
> houses without offering any hope or an alternative to joining a terror
> group. 80% of palestinian are unemployed, 50% live under poverty line.
> Groups like Hamas provide relief to families, they provide shelter if a
> house gets destroyed (Israeli army or not), food if there is nothing to
> feed your family with. Gees, how about competing with that? What is Israel
> offering to make sure that that 7-year old does not join hamas one day?
> Absolutely nothing.
>
> The problem is that you have hate fuelled, extremists on both sides
running
> the show: Sharon and his government on one side and hamas and others on
the
> other.
- 11-18-2003, 09:41 AM #15Guest
Re: Israeli Butchers blow face off American
tuppy wrote:
> BTW.....the name "eretz Yisroayl" (the land of Israel)
According to my history books and the various
bibles, it was "Judea" - land of the Jews - for
thousands of years. What's this "Israel"?
And Judea is GSM.
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