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  1. #1
    Dr Wakk
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    On vision premium packages, you will pay $15 a month unless included free in
    larger plans. You are get UP TO $10 credit back on your bill when you
    actively download content from sprint vision thru your PC or phone. It is
    dollar for dollar up to $10/month.

    However, these downloads are actually SOFTWARE CONTENT THAT YOU PAY EXTRA
    FOR EACH MONTH, so you can use the software on the phone. This content is
    not usage per call on your plan. Due to this, I believe that unused
    download $$$ credits should rollover each month on the account, on an
    ongoing basis for as long as the customer has vision on their plan. No
    actual cash refund would need to be be made by sprint at all, but when a
    customer wants a big reload of content, they would get only what the
    customer has ALREADY PAID FOR. You would not have to fork over extra $$ for
    more downloads at the time you wanted to use the feature.

    Think about it....it is fair, provides greater value for the customer and
    does not impact costs at sprint as much. Consider the amount of goodwill
    and positive feedback it can generate. Consider these points, too -- no
    extra costs to sprint (just the cost to initially program in the line item
    carryover in the billing program and maintain QA standards on it), get the
    download content you have already paid for, when you want it, with no added
    cost, because you have saved up your download credits and now you are using
    them (just like a little bank account).

    Look, if you have a camera phone, you get unlimited picture mail...this
    feature costs sprint a BUNDLE compared to downloads stored on network
    servers to be available on an in-demand manner (which is the manner
    downloadable contest is held & distributed anyway).

    It's just plain unfair not to rollover unused $$ download content credit!!

    Feedback from everybody on this new issue please!

    Dr Wakk

    Always thinking that there are better ways to do it!!





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  2. #2
    wldthng842
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    Be greatful you get $. Sprint is one of if not the only carrier to give a
    credit towards downloads. They are the only to not use min. while on
    internet like vision.


    "Dr Wakk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:Lqynb.51122$B_2.25466@okepread02...
    > On vision premium packages, you will pay $15 a month unless included free

    in
    > larger plans. You are get UP TO $10 credit back on your bill when you
    > actively download content from sprint vision thru your PC or phone. It is
    > dollar for dollar up to $10/month.
    >
    > However, these downloads are actually SOFTWARE CONTENT THAT YOU PAY EXTRA
    > FOR EACH MONTH, so you can use the software on the phone. This content is
    > not usage per call on your plan. Due to this, I believe that unused
    > download $$$ credits should rollover each month on the account, on an
    > ongoing basis for as long as the customer has vision on their plan. No
    > actual cash refund would need to be be made by sprint at all, but when a
    > customer wants a big reload of content, they would get only what the
    > customer has ALREADY PAID FOR. You would not have to fork over extra $$

    for
    > more downloads at the time you wanted to use the feature.
    >
    > Think about it....it is fair, provides greater value for the customer and
    > does not impact costs at sprint as much. Consider the amount of goodwill
    > and positive feedback it can generate. Consider these points, too -- no
    > extra costs to sprint (just the cost to initially program in the line item
    > carryover in the billing program and maintain QA standards on it), get the
    > download content you have already paid for, when you want it, with no

    added
    > cost, because you have saved up your download credits and now you are

    using
    > them (just like a little bank account).
    >
    > Look, if you have a camera phone, you get unlimited picture mail...this
    > feature costs sprint a BUNDLE compared to downloads stored on network
    > servers to be available on an in-demand manner (which is the manner
    > downloadable contest is held & distributed anyway).
    >
    > It's just plain unfair not to rollover unused $$ download content credit!!
    >
    > Feedback from everybody on this new issue please!
    >
    > Dr Wakk
    >
    > Always thinking that there are better ways to do it!!
    >
    >






  3. #3
    Dr Wakk
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    you misunderstand my point. you pay $15, get $10 credit/mo on downloads. if
    <$10 used for dl's in a month, the remaining amount could be carried over in
    an ongoing manner, so the customer could have the full value of the promised
    $10 amount/mo credit
    ..
    It could be used like this: mo 1 $8, mo 2 $5, mo 3 $0, month 4 $15..
    sprint would be paid $60 for the 4 months of vision. Downloaded amount is
    only $28 of $40 possible credit amount in this 4 mo example, leaving $12
    still to be used at a later date by customer at no additional cost (for
    sprint or customer).

    Real life in above scenario would be sprint bills customer $60. Cust gets
    only $23 worth of download credit during the 4 months, then sprint bills $5
    more for the downloads over $10 amount in month 4. Real life score as of
    today: Sprint PCS $65 vs Customer gets $28 worth of downloads. Possible
    best real life scenario: SprintPCS $65 vs Customer $40 worth of content
    during period.

    My proposal would carry this score: (equalled over time) Sprint PCS $60 gain
    vs Customer $40 worth of content.



    "wldthng842" <wldthng842*NOSPAM*@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:m0znb.77957$%[email protected]...
    > Be greatful you get $. Sprint is one of if not the only carrier to give a
    > credit towards downloads. They are the only to not use min. while on
    > internet like vision.
    >
    >
    > "Dr Wakk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:Lqynb.51122$B_2.25466@okepread02...
    > > On vision premium packages, you will pay $15 a month unless included

    free
    > in
    > > larger plans. You are get UP TO $10 credit back on your bill when you
    > > actively download content from sprint vision thru your PC or phone. It

    is
    > > dollar for dollar up to $10/month.
    > >
    > > However, these downloads are actually SOFTWARE CONTENT THAT YOU PAY

    EXTRA
    > > FOR EACH MONTH, so you can use the software on the phone. This content

    is
    > > not usage per call on your plan. Due to this, I believe that unused
    > > download $$$ credits should rollover each month on the account, on an
    > > ongoing basis for as long as the customer has vision on their plan. No
    > > actual cash refund would need to be be made by sprint at all, but when a
    > > customer wants a big reload of content, they would get only what the
    > > customer has ALREADY PAID FOR. You would not have to fork over extra $$

    > for
    > > more downloads at the time you wanted to use the feature.
    > >
    > > Think about it....it is fair, provides greater value for the customer

    and
    > > does not impact costs at sprint as much. Consider the amount of

    goodwill
    > > and positive feedback it can generate. Consider these points, too -- no
    > > extra costs to sprint (just the cost to initially program in the line

    item
    > > carryover in the billing program and maintain QA standards on it), get

    the
    > > download content you have already paid for, when you want it, with no

    > added
    > > cost, because you have saved up your download credits and now you are

    > using
    > > them (just like a little bank account).
    > >
    > > Look, if you have a camera phone, you get unlimited picture mail...this
    > > feature costs sprint a BUNDLE compared to downloads stored on network
    > > servers to be available on an in-demand manner (which is the manner
    > > downloadable contest is held & distributed anyway).
    > >
    > > It's just plain unfair not to rollover unused $$ download content

    credit!!
    > >
    > > Feedback from everybody on this new issue please!
    > >
    > > Dr Wakk
    > >
    > > Always thinking that there are better ways to do it!!
    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  4. #4
    CAT0NHAT
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??


    [email protected] says
    > Be greatful you get $.


    Typical arrogance of a SprintPCS employee. Must think they got a monopoly.
    Unlike landline, they got at least 5 competitors most places.



  5. #5
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??


    "Dr Wakk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:Muznb.51621$B_2.12344@okepread02...
    > you misunderstand my point. you pay $15, get $10 credit/mo on downloads.

    if
    > <$10 used for dl's in a month, the remaining amount could be carried over

    in
    > an ongoing manner, so the customer could have the full value of the

    promised
    > $10 amount/mo credit
    > .
    > It could be used like this: mo 1 $8, mo 2 $5, mo 3 $0, month 4 $15..
    > sprint would be paid $60 for the 4 months of vision. Downloaded amount is
    > only $28 of $40 possible credit amount in this 4 mo example, leaving $12
    > still to be used at a later date by customer at no additional cost (for
    > sprint or customer).
    >
    > Real life in above scenario would be sprint bills customer $60. Cust gets
    > only $23 worth of download credit during the 4 months, then sprint bills

    $5
    > more for the downloads over $10 amount in month 4. Real life score as of
    > today: Sprint PCS $65 vs Customer gets $28 worth of downloads. Possible
    > best real life scenario: SprintPCS $65 vs Customer $40 worth of content
    > during period.
    >
    > My proposal would carry this score: (equalled over time) Sprint PCS $60

    gain
    > vs Customer $40 worth of content.
    >


    IMHO, I don't think SPCS needs to provide the kind of credit that you
    mention above, nor would they be required to do so. It's part of the service
    that's included in Vision, and if the user doesn't want to take advantage of
    those free downloads, then they don't. It's like your regular minutes
    included in your plan. If you don't use them, they are gone ...

    Bob





  6. #6
    DrWakk
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    no kidding, bob. this is just a discussion topic. i/we all know how policy
    really works, don't we?


    "Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Dr Wakk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:Muznb.51621$B_2.12344@okepread02...
    > > you misunderstand my point. you pay $15, get $10 credit/mo on

    downloads.
    > if
    > > <$10 used for dl's in a month, the remaining amount could be carried

    over
    > in
    > > an ongoing manner, so the customer could have the full value of the

    > promised
    > > $10 amount/mo credit
    > > .
    > > It could be used like this: mo 1 $8, mo 2 $5, mo 3 $0, month 4 $15..
    > > sprint would be paid $60 for the 4 months of vision. Downloaded amount

    is
    > > only $28 of $40 possible credit amount in this 4 mo example, leaving $12
    > > still to be used at a later date by customer at no additional cost (for
    > > sprint or customer).
    > >
    > > Real life in above scenario would be sprint bills customer $60. Cust

    gets
    > > only $23 worth of download credit during the 4 months, then sprint bills

    > $5
    > > more for the downloads over $10 amount in month 4. Real life score as

    of
    > > today: Sprint PCS $65 vs Customer gets $28 worth of downloads.

    Possible
    > > best real life scenario: SprintPCS $65 vs Customer $40 worth of content
    > > during period.
    > >
    > > My proposal would carry this score: (equalled over time) Sprint PCS $60

    > gain
    > > vs Customer $40 worth of content.
    > >

    >
    > IMHO, I don't think SPCS needs to provide the kind of credit that you
    > mention above, nor would they be required to do so. It's part of the

    service
    > that's included in Vision, and if the user doesn't want to take advantage

    of
    > those free downloads, then they don't. It's like your regular minutes
    > included in your plan. If you don't use them, they are gone ...
    >
    > Bob
    >
    >






  7. #7
    Bob Smith
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??


    "DrWakk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:eSznb.51797$B_2.38871@okepread02...
    > no kidding, bob. this is just a discussion topic. i/we all know how

    policy
    > really works, don't we?


    Well policy does change every now and then. I was just expressing my
    thoughts on the subject ...

    Bob





  8. #8
    norelpref
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:17:56 -0600, "Dr Wakk" <[email protected]> wrote:


    >However, these downloads are actually SOFTWARE CONTENT THAT YOU PAY EXTRA
    >FOR EACH MONTH, so you can use the software on the phone. This content is
    >not usage per call on your plan. Due to this, I believe that unused
    >download $$$ credits should rollover each month on the account, on an
    >ongoing basis for as long as the customer has vision on their plan. No
    >actual cash refund would need to be be made by sprint at all, but when a
    >customer wants a big reload of content, they would get only what the
    >customer has ALREADY PAID FOR. You would not have to fork over extra $$ for
    >more downloads at the time you wanted to use the feature.
    >


    I have never actually used any downloads from Sprint with my Vision
    but the impression I got was your fees were not for the actual
    download, but for the license to use the software for a specific time.
    Meaning you can download this and use it but only for XX time period.
    If you want to use it past the initial paid time period, you pay
    again. Maybe it is just a different way of looking at the same thing.
    Rollling over anything would be an advantage for end users to bank on
    but I don't think that concept is specific to their licensed
    downloads. At least with Vision service, you can download ringers
    and applications from any site you wish that are compatible with your
    phone, subject to that sites cost structure and rules and not be
    charged extra by Sprint.



  9. #9
    norelpref
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    On 28 Oct 2003 19:33:25 GMT, [email protected] (CAT0NHAT) wrote:

    >
    >[email protected] says
    >> Be greatful you get $.

    >
    >Typical arrogance of a SprintPCS employee. Must think they got a monopoly.
    >Unlike landline, they got at least 5 competitors most places.


    Thanks for very useless post. It seems this was well thought out and
    a lot of effort was put into it so the group as a whole would benefit.
    Do you have anything to add to the actual thread topic that is
    actually on subject?



  10. #10
    Lawrence Glasser
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    Dr Wakk wrote:
    >
    > On vision premium packages, you will pay $15 a month unless included free in
    > larger plans. You are get UP TO $10 credit back on your bill when you
    > actively download content from sprint vision thru your PC or phone. It is
    > dollar for dollar up to $10/month.
    >
    > However, these downloads are actually SOFTWARE CONTENT THAT YOU PAY EXTRA
    > FOR EACH MONTH, so you can use the software on the phone. This content is
    > not usage per call on your plan.
    >
    > <snip>


    A large number of downloads include ringers, screensavers, etc.

    They're assessed a one-time fee for download. After that, they're
    yours to keep and use, with no additional charges.

    Personally, I have no interest in ringers and screensavers, but
    to each his own.

    Larry



  11. #11
    O/Siris
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    [email protected] (CAT0NHAT) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > [email protected] says
    > > Be greatful you get $.

    >
    > Typical arrogance of a SprintPCS employee. Must think they got a monopoly.
    > Unlike landline, they got at least 5 competitors most places.


    Typical failure to observe simple honesty from you, Phill. That
    wasn't a SPCS employee.



  12. #12
    CAT0NHAT
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    >> Be greatful you get $.

    That arrogant post was well thought out?



  13. #13
    DrWakk
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    the fee is for the actual download, whether you ever use it or not. an
    invisible 'license' for software is not what you are fee'd for. their are
    actually serveral licenses involved: one represents an agreement between
    sprint and the content developer, another between sprint and the consumer,
    etc.

    "norelpref" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:17:56 -0600, "Dr Wakk" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    > >However, these downloads are actually SOFTWARE CONTENT THAT YOU PAY

    EXTRA
    > >FOR EACH MONTH, so you can use the software on the phone. This content is
    > >not usage per call on your plan. Due to this, I believe that unused
    > >download $$$ credits should rollover each month on the account, on an
    > >ongoing basis for as long as the customer has vision on their plan. No
    > >actual cash refund would need to be be made by sprint at all, but when a
    > >customer wants a big reload of content, they would get only what the
    > >customer has ALREADY PAID FOR. You would not have to fork over extra $$

    for
    > >more downloads at the time you wanted to use the feature.
    > >

    >
    > I have never actually used any downloads from Sprint with my Vision
    > but the impression I got was your fees were not for the actual
    > download, but for the license to use the software for a specific time.
    > Meaning you can download this and use it but only for XX time period.
    > If you want to use it past the initial paid time period, you pay
    > again. Maybe it is just a different way of looking at the same thing.
    > Rollling over anything would be an advantage for end users to bank on
    > but I don't think that concept is specific to their licensed
    > downloads. At least with Vision service, you can download ringers
    > and applications from any site you wish that are compatible with your
    > phone, subject to that sites cost structure and rules and not be
    > charged extra by Sprint.






  14. #14
    DrWakk
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    you are correct larry.
    this discussion only represents "official" SPCS downloads rather than 3rd
    party

    "Lawrence Glasser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Dr Wakk wrote:
    > >
    > > On vision premium packages, you will pay $15 a month unless included

    free in
    > > larger plans. You are get UP TO $10 credit back on your bill when you
    > > actively download content from sprint vision thru your PC or phone. It

    is
    > > dollar for dollar up to $10/month.
    > >
    > > However, these downloads are actually SOFTWARE CONTENT THAT YOU PAY

    EXTRA
    > > FOR EACH MONTH, so you can use the software on the phone. This content

    is
    > > not usage per call on your plan.
    > >
    > > <snip>

    >
    > A large number of downloads include ringers, screensavers, etc.
    >
    > They're assessed a one-time fee for download. After that, they're
    > yours to keep and use, with no additional charges.
    >
    > Personally, I have no interest in ringers and screensavers, but
    > to each his own.
    >
    > Larry






  15. #15
    norelpref
    Guest

    Re: Want Rollover Unused Vision Download Content Credit Month-to-Month??

    On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:26:37 -0600, "DrWakk" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >the fee is for the actual download, whether you ever use it or not. an
    >invisible 'license' for software is not what you are fee'd for. their are
    >actually serveral licenses involved: one represents an agreement between
    >sprint and the content developer, another between sprint and the consumer,
    >etc.
    >

    Like i said I never actually used their downloads, so hear me out

    These where taken from the sprintpcs web site

    Product License: 9-Ball Deluxe


    Price: $3.99
    License Type: Regular
    License for: Unlimited

    This is a limited, nonexclusive, nontransferable license to use this
    content for the duration above, subject to the restrictions set forth
    above and in the terms applicable to all Premium Services. If your
    Premium Services expire, are suspended or cancelled under the
    applicable terms of use, you will not receive any refund for the
    remaining unused portion of your invoice period. The content provided
    is protected under applicable laws, including copyright laws.


    I understand this to be $3.99 to download and it use it however long
    you want too. Is that correct?

    How about this one:

    Product License: Howling


    Price: $2.50
    License Type: Regular
    License for: 90 days

    This is a limited, nonexclusive, nontransferable license to use this
    content for the duration above, subject to the restrictions set forth
    above and in the terms applicable to all Premium Services. If your
    Premium Services expire, are suspended or cancelled under the
    applicable terms of use, you will not receive any refund for the
    remaining unused portion of your invoice period. The content provided
    is protected under applicable laws, including copyright laws.

    Looks to me that for $2.50, you get to download it and use it for 90
    days.

    I am confused on what you are raising an issue about. These seem like
    nothing more then a fee and a license (and not invisible) to use the
    file for a specific time period (or unlimited for some).




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