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  1. #1
    PDA Man
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    Cell Users Soon Could Take Home Digits Along

    The growing band of renegades who are ditching their home phones to use only
    cell phones will likely get an early Christmas gift: the ability to transfer
    their home numbers to their wireless phones.
    The Federal Communications Commission's staff is recommending that local
    phone companies be required to let customers switch their home or business
    numbers to wireless phones starting Nov. 24.

    The FCC already has ruled that as of Nov. 24, cell-phone carriers must let
    consumers take their cell-phone numbers with them if they switch carriers.

    The only caveat on home number ''portability'' is that the wired phone you
    want to switch must be in the wireless carrier's local calling area,
    typically true with the big providers. In other words, you can't take the
    number to a cell provider across the country.

    Most of the agency's five commissioners are leaning toward the proposal,
    which is the last unresolved piece of a broad plan to let consumers shop for
    better phone deals without having to get a new number if they switch. About
    5.8 million people have cut off wired home phone service to go
    wireless-only, says the Yankee Group research firm.

    Another researcher, Gartner, estimates that would double if customers could
    take their numbers with them.

    ''This will make it a lot easier to just go to a wireless phone,'' says Kim
    Kuo of the Cellular Telecommunications and Internet Association.

    Local phone companies have resisted the move. Three of the four regional
    Bells -- SBC, BellSouth and Qwest -- have argued they should have to
    transfer numbers only if their customer's phone and the new wireless
    provider's call-routing equipment are in the same local area. That would
    significantly limit the number of consumers eligible.

    The Bells' objection is that they don't have an equal chance to lure
    wireless customers to switch numbers to traditional phones because mobile
    company local calling areas are much larger than the Bells' areas. Unless
    the customer's home phone and the wireless company's equipment are in the
    same area, a cell-phone customer who switched a number to a wired phone
    could face toll charges to call next door.

    ''We think that's incredibly unfair,'' says Gary Lytle of Qwest.

    Initially, the FCC staff recommended that required home-to-cell number
    transfers be limited to instances where the number and wireless equipment
    are in the same local calling area. A separate proceeding, which could take
    up to a year, would then resolve the Bells' cell-to-home issue.

    But many FCC officials now concede there is little demand to switch numbers
    from wireless to regular phones. And they say the billing issue can be
    resolved while number transfers from traditional to wireless phones begin

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  2. #2
    DevilsPGD
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    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!

    In message <<[email protected]>> "PDA Man"
    <[email protected]> did ramble:

    >The only caveat on home number ''portability'' is that the wired phone you
    >want to switch must be in the wireless carrier's local calling area,
    >typically true with the big providers. In other words, you can't take the
    >number to a cell provider across the country.


    You can, as long as you're allowed to roam. You might need a local
    mailing address or whatever, but that's workable if keeping your phone
    number is *that* important.

    --
    Ah, the miracle mile, where value wears a neon sombrero and there's not a single church or library to offend the eye.



  3. #3
    Scott in Aztlan
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    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!

    On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:01:27 -0500, "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Cell Users Soon Could Take Home Digits Along
    >
    >The growing band of renegades who are ditching their home phones to use only
    >cell phones will likely get an early Christmas gift: the ability to transfer
    >their home numbers to their wireless phones.


    Along with all of the telemarketing calls that used to come to their landline
    phones. Since their cell phone will not longer have a "cell phone only" prefix,
    the telemarketing lime will have no way of knowing they are dialing a cellular
    number.

    Hope y'all have one of those "unlimited anytime minutes" calling plans...

    --
    When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather did -
    not screaming like the passengers in his car.



  4. #4
    Peter Pan
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    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!


    "Scott in Aztlan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:01:27 -0500, "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Cell Users Soon Could Take Home Digits Along
    > >
    > >The growing band of renegades who are ditching their home phones to use

    only
    > >cell phones will likely get an early Christmas gift: the ability to

    transfer
    > >their home numbers to their wireless phones.

    >
    > Along with all of the telemarketing calls that used to come to their

    landline
    > phones. Since their cell phone will not longer have a "cell phone only"

    prefix,
    > the telemarketing lime will have no way of knowing they are dialing a

    cellular
    > number.
    >
    > Hope y'all have one of those "unlimited anytime minutes" calling plans...
    >
    > --
    > When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather did -
    > not screaming like the passengers in his car.


    Just a tweak here, I never ever answer my phone if the caller ID doesn't
    show. In two years of doing it that, I've never missed a call from someone I
    know, but don't have any idea how many were telemarketers, as I said, I just
    don't answer.





  5. #5
    Danny
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    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!

    Peter Pan,
    I guess that having Caller ID is a GREAT advantage over land lines is
    that my caller ID comes available where on my land line I have to pay for
    it. I too do the same as you in that I don't recognize the #, I don't answer
    neither.....Great thought !!!!

    Danny

    "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Scott in Aztlan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:01:27 -0500, "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > >Cell Users Soon Could Take Home Digits Along
    > > >
    > > >The growing band of renegades who are ditching their home phones to use

    > only
    > > >cell phones will likely get an early Christmas gift: the ability to

    > transfer
    > > >their home numbers to their wireless phones.

    > >
    > > Along with all of the telemarketing calls that used to come to their

    > landline
    > > phones. Since their cell phone will not longer have a "cell phone only"

    > prefix,
    > > the telemarketing lime will have no way of knowing they are dialing a

    > cellular
    > > number.
    > >
    > > Hope y'all have one of those "unlimited anytime minutes" calling

    plans...
    > >
    > > --
    > > When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather

    did -
    > > not screaming like the passengers in his car.

    >
    > Just a tweak here, I never ever answer my phone if the caller ID doesn't
    > show. In two years of doing it that, I've never missed a call from someone

    I
    > know, but don't have any idea how many were telemarketers, as I said, I

    just
    > don't answer.
    >
    >






  6. #6
    Peter Pan
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    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!

    Actually, that's on my cellphone. With Verizon AC you get free caller ID,
    guess I thought the other ones were all like that too.
    But now that you mention it, I'll suggest it to my friends with land lines
    and caller ID.. just don't answer!


    "Danny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Peter Pan,
    > I guess that having Caller ID is a GREAT advantage over land lines is
    > that my caller ID comes available where on my land line I have to pay for
    > it. I too do the same as you in that I don't recognize the #, I don't

    answer
    > neither.....Great thought !!!!
    >
    > Danny
    >
    > "Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > "Scott in Aztlan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:01:27 -0500, "PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >Cell Users Soon Could Take Home Digits Along
    > > > >
    > > > >The growing band of renegades who are ditching their home phones to

    use
    > > only
    > > > >cell phones will likely get an early Christmas gift: the ability to

    > > transfer
    > > > >their home numbers to their wireless phones.
    > > >
    > > > Along with all of the telemarketing calls that used to come to their

    > > landline
    > > > phones. Since their cell phone will not longer have a "cell phone

    only"
    > > prefix,
    > > > the telemarketing lime will have no way of knowing they are dialing a

    > > cellular
    > > > number.
    > > >
    > > > Hope y'all have one of those "unlimited anytime minutes" calling

    > plans...
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather

    > did -
    > > > not screaming like the passengers in his car.

    > >
    > > Just a tweak here, I never ever answer my phone if the caller ID doesn't
    > > show. In two years of doing it that, I've never missed a call from

    someone
    > I
    > > know, but don't have any idea how many were telemarketers, as I said, I

    > just
    > > don't answer.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  7. #7
    DevilsPGD
    Guest

    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!

    In message <<[email protected]>> Scott in
    Aztlan <[email protected]> did ramble:

    >Along with all of the telemarketing calls that used to come to their landline
    >phones. Since their cell phone will not longer have a "cell phone only" prefix,
    >the telemarketing lime will have no way of knowing they are dialing a cellular
    >number.
    >
    >Hope y'all have one of those "unlimited anytime minutes" calling plans...


    A quick trip to the DNC list should take care of that.

    --
    Ah, the miracle mile, where value wears a neon sombrero and there's not a single church or library to offend the eye.



  8. #8
    Alex Rodriguez
    Guest

    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    >Cell Users Soon Could Take Home Digits Along
    >The growing band of renegades who are ditching their home phones to use only
    >cell phones will likely get an early Christmas gift: the ability to transfer
    >their home numbers to their wireless phones.
    >The Federal Communications Commission's staff is recommending that local
    >phone companies be required to let customers switch their home or business
    >numbers to wireless phones starting Nov. 24.


    I would never drop my landline. I've yet to hear of any cell phone service
    that is as reliable as a landline. Not to mention sound quality which is
    also lacking.

    ---------------
    Alex




  9. #9
    Jeff
    Guest

    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!

    I know of entire neighborhoods where cell phones and VoIP internet phones
    actually get a BETTER reception than you could get out of any land line in
    the area. It entirely depends on the quality of your phone company and the
    local infrastructure.

    -Jeff


    "Alex Rodriguez" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    > >Cell Users Soon Could Take Home Digits Along
    > >The growing band of renegades who are ditching their home phones to use

    only
    > >cell phones will likely get an early Christmas gift: the ability to

    transfer
    > >their home numbers to their wireless phones.
    > >The Federal Communications Commission's staff is recommending that local
    > >phone companies be required to let customers switch their home or

    business
    > >numbers to wireless phones starting Nov. 24.

    >
    > I would never drop my landline. I've yet to hear of any cell phone

    service
    > that is as reliable as a landline. Not to mention sound quality which is
    > also lacking.
    >
    > ---------------
    > Alex
    >






  10. #10
    Quick
    Guest

    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!

    Ummm, VoIP internet phones don't do "reception" they simply
    do voice over IP. If the IP happens to go over the air that is
    independent of it being a VoIP phone. just a nit. I assume you
    were speaking of sound quality with respect to VoIP phones.
    Any VoIP calls over the internet are subject to large variations
    in quality depending on traffic and transient conditions (this would
    be the VoIP phones that you hook up to your (assumably broadband)
    internet connection and some very inexpensive services. VoIP over
    properly engineered private networks *is* comparable to landlines.
    Many landline and wireless providers are moving to IP.

    I agree with Alex on cellular service. There is a tremendous amount
    of reliability built into the landline phone system. Not sure how much
    of it is mandated since it is, or has been, treated as a "utility" and
    regulated.
    Cellular service reliability is only driven by competitive forces. When
    the power goes out for half a day or so your wall phone is very likely
    to still provide a dial tone. I'm sure there are exceptions like being
    out in the sticks where the cows knock down the pole every other
    day.

    -Quick

    "Jeff" <[email protected]> wrote
    > I know of entire neighborhoods where cell phones and VoIP internet phones
    > actually get a BETTER reception than you could get out of any land line in
    > the area. It entirely depends on the quality of your phone company and the
    > local infrastructure.
    >
    > -Jeff
    >
    >
    > "Alex Rodriguez" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    > > >Cell Users Soon Could Take Home Digits Along
    > > >The growing band of renegades who are ditching their home phones to use

    > only
    > > >cell phones will likely get an early Christmas gift: the ability to

    > transfer
    > > >their home numbers to their wireless phones.
    > > >The Federal Communications Commission's staff is recommending that

    local
    > > >phone companies be required to let customers switch their home or

    > business
    > > >numbers to wireless phones starting Nov. 24.

    > >
    > > I would never drop my landline. I've yet to hear of any cell phone

    > service
    > > that is as reliable as a landline. Not to mention sound quality which

    is
    > > also lacking.
    > >
    > > ---------------
    > > Alex
    > >

    >
    >






  11. #11
    Mark Allread
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    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!

    On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:23:01 -0800, Quick <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Ummm, VoIP internet phones don't do "reception" they simply
    > do voice over IP. If the IP happens to go over the air that is
    > independent of it being a VoIP phone.


    Huh? There are wireless IP phones.

    http://www.symbol.com/products/wireless/nv_phone.html

    --
    Mark



  12. #12
    Quick
    Guest

    Re: news: Cell Phone Users May Get Home Numbers To Go !!


    "Mark Allread" <[email protected]> wrote ..
    > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:23:01 -0800, Quick <[email protected]>

    wrote:
    >
    > > Ummm, VoIP internet phones don't do "reception" they simply
    > > do voice over IP. If the IP happens to go over the air that is
    > > independent of it being a VoIP phone.

    >
    > Huh? There are wireless IP phones.
    >
    > http://www.symbol.com/products/wireless/nv_phone.html


    Yes, Symbol has combined VoIP (H.323) and *wireless
    lan* (802.11). They usually also have a bar code scanner in there
    as well (thats where they are really big). The VoIP part would
    work as is over a wired lan. So yes. There are wireless VoIP
    phones. The one you have pointed out is not cellular and they
    don't have coverage for any "entire neighborhoods". Its kind
    of like having a radio in your car and calling it a radio car (the
    remote controlled kind).

    -Quick





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