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  1. #1
    Harry
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    On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:07:56 -0500, George <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Well, ok, this is only indirectly related to cellular, but is it
    >possible to have *no* LD carrier on your landline? Are any fees
    >saved by doing that?
    >
    >SBC is dropping all their no-monthly-fee LD plans, and I don't want
    >to pay them every month for something that is rarely used.
    >

    Our landline carrier is Sprint. What we have done is declare Sprint to
    be our LD carried BUT have not selected any play. We obviously use our
    cell phones or LD calling cards for long distance.

    This effectively gives us the "no" LD carrier although you do have to
    be carefull not to accidently dial LD. On the other hand it does mean
    that in an emergency we can dial LD from our landline phone. Expensive
    but a nice piece of insurance.

    Harry




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  2. #2
    Larry
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    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    Evan Platt <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > No. As a matter of fact, the basta... SBC charges you to not have a LD
    > carrier.
    >
    > And to NOT list your number.
    >


    Armed with this wonderful information, I'd like to ask the original poster
    if he/she actually NEEDS a land line. I haven't had one in my house for 3
    years...good riddance. No sales calls during dinner, or any other time.
    No Long Distance scams by the landline carrier or AT&T. No tax games by
    the state/local tax bureaucrats who just can't leave a telephone untaxed to
    death.

    Why in hell put yourself through all this. All you need is a good
    cellphone with Unlimited nights/weekends and nationwide long distance
    included. Folks on here from your area can tell you who's the best for
    your area.

    Tell SBC to kiss your ass and DUMP 'EM!
    You can't imagine how good that feels after being their victim since you
    were born..(c;

    YOU CAN EVEN TAKE YOUR LANDLINE NUMBER TO YOUR NEW CELLULAR PHONE!!...(C;

    --
    Larry



  3. #3
    Rod
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    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    > >Are any fees saved by doing that?
    >
    > No. As a matter of fact, the basta... SBC charges you to not have a LD
    > carrier.


    They don't charge us for not having it on ours. The way it was explained to
    me is if you choose to block LD they will charge you the fee, if you choose
    not to "choose" a LD provider then you can't make LD calls and there is no
    charge.


    >
    > And to NOT list your number.


    This one I refuse to pay, just list your number in another name. Most people
    don't know it but you can list your phone number under any name you want.
    Ours is listed in the cats name.



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  4. #4
    starcat
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    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    "Joseph" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:48:02 -0400, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Armed with this wonderful information, I'd like to ask the original poster
    >>if he/she actually NEEDS a land line. I haven't had one in my house for 3
    >>years...good riddance. No sales calls during dinner, or any other time.
    >>No Long Distance scams by the landline carrier or AT&T. No tax games by
    >>the state/local tax bureaucrats who just can't leave a telephone untaxed
    >>to
    >>death.

    >
    > Going cellphone only is fine if everyone in your house has a
    > cellphone. If not it's pretty hard to use the phone if you're out of
    > the house and someone else needs to make a call. For singles it's
    > ideal. I've not had a wireline phone for over three years. It also
    > makes a difference what kind of reception you get in your place as
    > well. I'd say it would be pretty inconvenient if every time you had
    > to make a call you had to go outside to be able to do it.
    >>
    >>Why in hell put yourself through all this. All you need is a good
    >>cellphone with Unlimited nights/weekends and nationwide long distance
    >>included. Folks on here from your area can tell you who's the best for
    >>your area.

    >


    I dropped my landline when I moved recently, so I'm cellular only. I don't
    regret it for a second. My son and others of his generation (early 20s) all
    have cell phones only, because SBC, etc., wants such huge deposits from them
    to get a landline. Here in Houston 911 isn't a problem on cell, and my
    reception is terrific. At work it's less than that, but I have a work phone
    for anything I need there. My landline was just an extra chunk of money I
    paid for nothing I didn't already have with cellular, and I had to pay extra
    for caller ID, call waiting, etc., and had to have an answering machine -
    all things included in my monthly cell plan. I now have no wrong numbers,
    sales calls, charity calls, and all that other fun stuff that comes with a
    landline (yes, I did sign up for the national "do not call" list, but I
    still got junk calls, although not as many). My internet is via cable, and
    long distance is the reason I got the cell in the first place, so I don't
    miss my land phone one teensy bit.





  5. #5
    Larry
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    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    Joseph <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Going cellphone only is fine if everyone in your house has a
    > cellphone.


    With all the share plans going on with lots of competition, the extra $10
    per line is a bargain. Everyone can have their own number. With all the
    IN plans, where you call for nothing inside the carrier's cellphone system,
    cellphone to cellphone without using minutes during primetime, this makes
    it even better.

    --
    Larry



  6. #6
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    George <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > And then there are the 911 questions.


    All the new cellphones put on systems are E911 qualified. They pinpoint
    your position with a GPS receiver built right into the phone. Whatever
    position the GPS heard as you entered the building is what's reported.

    >
    > I don't know. Perhaps I should at it again. But you know,
    > where I live I'd probably end up with Cingular, which is
    > still SBC. You just can't get away from them. :-)
    >


    My contention isn't about a company, it's about the physics of it all. I
    can no longer "wait around for your call" on some tied-down landline phone.



  7. #7
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    Larry wrote:

    > All the new cellphones put on systems are E911 qualified. They pinpoint
    > your position with a GPS receiver built right into the phone. Whatever
    > position the GPS heard as you entered the building is what's reported.


    I understand, actually, that a couple of the carriers are doing GPS and a
    couple others are doing some sort of enhanced triangulation.


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  8. #8
    David L
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    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    These subjects gets disussed frequently in
    misc.consumers.frugal-living.
    I'd look there or search the google archives.

    You will be charged all the taxes for long distance, the trick is to
    get a no cost long distance plan. Basically no one wants a low paying
    customer, so there are usually fees for under usage of LD.

    If you decide to dump your LD carrier ask for it with SBC tell them you
    want NO Long Distance Carrier and add a PIC freeze to the account so
    one cannot be added.
    You should notify your LD carrier of the termination.
    Also do not let anyone make LD calls without using a calling card dial
    around or accces number, because you will be hit by extremely high
    "casual dialing rates" since there is no designated LD carrier.
    -
    David


    Something like dialing a local access number for Onesuite, Pincity can
    be used for cheap LD costs.
    I'm almost positive you can still make 800 number calls to access a low
    cost LD carrier with a NO LD carrier designation on your Local phone
    account?




  9. #9
    CharlesH
    Guest

    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    David L wrote:
    > Also do not let anyone make LD calls without using a calling card dial
    > around or accces number, because you will be hit by extremely high
    > "casual dialing rates" since there is no designated LD carrier.


    At least here in SBC land, if you have NO LD carrier, an attempt to make
    a toll call will go to an intercept. At least it does on my home line.
    We use our cell phone for all long distance calls.



  10. #10
    David L
    Guest

    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    CharlesH wrote:
    > David L wrote:
    > > Also do not let anyone make LD calls without using a calling card dial
    > > around or accces number, because you will be hit by extremely high
    > > "casual dialing rates" since there is no designated LD carrier.

    >
    > At least here in SBC land, if you have NO LD carrier, an attempt to make
    > a toll call will go to an intercept. At least it does on my home line.
    > We use our cell phone for all long distance calls.


    So an 800 number call will not go through with no LD carrier?
    Wasn't sure, but at least local access numbers using a "calling card",
    like web based pre pay, Pincity will certainly work.

    I have free long dstance on my Verizon phone, but the call quality is
    just not up to par with a landline, especially during high traffic
    conditions, so I often use a calling card (Pincity) sometimes.
    Pincity is not perfect, but for 2.5 cents a minute, including taxes,
    it's a good option to cellular calls, when a call deserves the best
    "VQ".
    "Free LD" on a cell phone, is just poor quality prepaid calls IMO. Your
    charged wether minutes are used or not.

    Cellular 7PM offpeak is still useful during weeknights to call back
    east, but 9PM nights make calling eastern time zones less useful, if
    you want to get people still awake. 9PM nights are more like weekend
    calling plans to eastern time zones.

    Onesuite doesn't require or have local access numbers AFAIK, just an
    800 number. Too many call quality problems, so I dumped them. The
    cheapo calling card rates seem to have more problems than using a major
    carrier.
    -
    David




  11. #11
    Stuart Friedman
    Guest

    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    Look at Americom.. They have a 3.9 cents a minute long distance
    service with no monthly minimums or service fees. You can set this up
    as your long distance carrier with the telco. We have a VOIP line at
    home with unlimited 21 country long distance. We keep a regular line
    as a backup and have this as our long distance provider.

    Stu




  12. #12
    Michael Z
    Guest

    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    Evan Platt <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:07:56 -0500, George <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Well, ok, this is only indirectly related to cellular, but is it
    >>possible to have *no* LD carrier on your landline?

    >
    > Yes.
    >
    >>Are any fees saved by doing that?

    >
    > No. As a matter of fact, the basta... SBC charges you to not have a LD
    > carrier.
    >
    > And to NOT list your number.


    Where are you calling from? OneSuite has a search for local access
    numbers on their website http://onesuite.com/access_search.asp. I've
    been a customer for years now, and have never had a problem with
    reception, except for maybe on my cell phone when I'm in more remote
    areas. I would still recommend it- it's convenient, has low rates, and
    I've never had a problem with call quality. But, I guess everyone has
    their own experiences.
    -Mike

    "To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for
    happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost." -Gustave
    Flaubert








  13. #13
    CharlesH
    Guest

    Re: What about having no LD carrier on landline?

    David L wrote:
    > CharlesH wrote:
    >>At least here in SBC land, if you have NO LD carrier, an attempt to make
    >>a toll call will go to an intercept. At least it does on my home line.
    >>We use our cell phone for all long distance calls.

    >
    > So an 800 number call will not go through with no LD carrier?


    800 calls are toll-free, so they go through fine. 800 calls are carried
    by whichever carrier is providing the 800 number, not the LD carrier of
    the caller (if any).



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