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- 07-19-2006, 11:51 PM #31RNessGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
You do understand that a GPS is a receiver....
and are very sensitive.
A phone is a 'two way' device... big difference!!
"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Larry wrote:
>> George <[email protected]> wrote in news:6_
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Since the satelites have to be in low earth orbit to work with handheld devices it takes a number of satellites to
>>> build a system. Iridium has *66* satellites + spares in its system. Also consider that they need to be periodically
>>> replaced.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Satphones, just like GPS going the other way, don't work inside. That'll protect cellular if they provide that
>> service. Amazingly, I haven't seen the greenies go ballistic on human irradiation by much-more-powerful satphones.
>> 200mw isn't gonna excite even the closest satellite 200 miles away....ever.
>>
> My Garmin Nuvi GPS Works inside my home.
>
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- 07-20-2006, 12:04 AM #32Kevin WeaverGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
RNess wrote:
> You do understand that a GPS is a receiver....
> and are very sensitive.
>
> A phone is a 'two way' device... big difference!!
>
>
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> Larry wrote:
>>> George <[email protected]> wrote in news:6_
>>> [email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Since the satelites have to be in low earth orbit to work with handheld devices it takes a number of satellites to
>>>> build a system. Iridium has *66* satellites + spares in its system. Also consider that they need to be periodically
>>>> replaced.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Satphones, just like GPS going the other way, don't work inside. That'll protect cellular if they provide that
>>> service. Amazingly, I haven't seen the greenies go ballistic on human irradiation by much-more-powerful satphones.
>>> 200mw isn't gonna excite even the closest satellite 200 miles away....ever.
>>>
>> My Garmin Nuvi GPS Works inside my home.
>>
>
>
Larry said that GPS does not work inside. I just said that mine does.
Nothing more, Nothing less.
- 07-20-2006, 12:45 PM #33LarryGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Kevin Weaver <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> My Garmin Nuvi GPS Works inside my home.
>
>
Your home is a transparent RF structure, probably wood? That would work if
the bird were close enough overhead and the house wasn't in the thick
woods. Pine needles, as most rural cellular customers know, act like
perfect little microwave dummy loads, absorbing any RF that strays by them.
Stand in an open field near a woods and read your signal meter. Walk into
the deep woods and check it. Sap eats RF. Your roof isn't the steel
shield covering WalMart or Best Buy, rendering the satphone, satellite
radios and GPS useless under its shadow.
Oh, sorry. There goes Larry with his RF-based fantasies again....(c;
- 07-20-2006, 12:48 PM #34LarryGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Kevin Weaver <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Larry said that GPS does not work inside. I just said that mine does.
> Nothing more, Nothing less.
>
>
I can get a GPS fix inside some steel-roofed places like restaurants, where
it shouldn't work. I think the GPS sees some reflections from the cars and
other metal objects you can see through the windows out in the parking
lots. That makes sense at 2400 Mhz as the wave is so short, just a few
inches. The fix probably sucks after the reflecting. GPS is made to be
direct.
- 07-20-2006, 03:28 PM #35Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
>
> Again, I don't know that all universities are completely covered with
> wireless access. Besides, kids are in college to learn, not gab.
And the universities that ARE blanketed by WiFi coverage often restrict
them to people affiliated WITH the university. The college local to me
has plenty of WiFi, but you can't get on it unless you have a university
(staff, faculty or student) ID and password. You must log in before it
takes you anywhere BUT that login page.
Oh, and it's not free. Students at most colleges typically pay a
"computer services fee" of some sort. Most of the time it's itemized on
their term bills. That fee covers the semester's use of computer labs,
campus wired internet services, off-campus dialup lines (for those
colleges who still have such a beast) and WiFi.
And, even if he does have such a username and password, does that Skype
phone have a built in display screen and password sot hat one CAN log in
when it's required? Probably not.
Larry seems to think that WiFi hotspots are springing up all over the
place and that internet service is now as abundant as water. Maybe in
his slice of the boonies, there's a lot of stupid people with open,
unsecured hotspots. That's not the case in more educated areas of the
US. There is still no such thing as a free lunch, and many
establishments DO charge or restrict their wifi in one way or another.
And while Larry doesn't have any scruples about using any hotspot that's
open to him, it's still unethical (and in some cases, it's being
codified as illegal) to do so unless the service is specifically
advertised as open and free for anyone to use. Hell, if I knew Larry
lived near my neighborhood, I'd warn people to keep their doors and
windows locked (in case Larry thinks it's okay to walk into unlocked
houses and take the furniture), and to make sure he's not splicing into
their cable, either (after all, it's just sitting there and paid for,
unwatched when no one is home or when everyone is sleeping... right?).
Don't get me wrong, I use Skype myself occasionally, and I think it's a
an interesting idea. But it's NOT my primary means of being in touch,
and probably never will be. I haven't given up my cellphone yet, and
doubt I will for the forseeable future. Unlike Larry, I'm not willing
to entrust my telephone service to the goodwill (or ignorance) of
others. And the fact that Skype has to give away their service through
the end of the year just to attract customers - AND that no competitors
have gone out of business over it - is very telling.
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- 07-20-2006, 03:30 PM #36Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Steve Sobol wrote:
> McDonalds uses WayPort. Starbucks uses T-Mobile Hotspot. Barnes & Noble uses SBC.
And this is the important part... ALL of them charge for access. WiFi
isn't always free.
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- 07-20-2006, 05:29 PM #37LarryGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Don't get me wrong
My, my, aren't we negative....
- 07-20-2006, 05:30 PM #38LarryGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> WiFi
> isn't always free.
>
No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;
- 07-20-2006, 09:03 PM #39Steve SobolGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Larry wrote:
> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> WiFi
>> isn't always free.
>>
>
> No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;
And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!
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- 07-20-2006, 10:22 PM #40Peter PanGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Steve Sobol wrote:
> Larry wrote:
>> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> WiFi
>>> isn't always free.
>>>
>>
>> No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;
>
> And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!
You mean all those posts about calling 911 from a bag phone for free were
LIES!?!?!?!??! Oh no!!!!!!!
- 07-20-2006, 11:25 PM #41DevilsPGDGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
In message <[email protected]> "Peter Pan"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Steve Sobol wrote:
>> Larry wrote:
>>> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> WiFi
>>>> isn't always free.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;
>>
>> And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!
>
>You mean all those posts about calling 911 from a bag phone for free were
>LIES!?!?!?!??! Oh no!!!!!!!
>
Hence the "Often" and "Not always" qualifiers.
Show of hands, how many here call 911 on a regular basis? How many call
other numbers?
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- 07-21-2006, 07:25 AM #42Peter PanGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
DevilsPGD wrote:
> In message <[email protected]> "Peter Pan"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Steve Sobol wrote:
>>> Larry wrote:
>>>> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> WiFi
>>>>> isn't always free.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, but cellular is NEVER free....(c;
>>>
>>> And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!
>>
>> You mean all those posts about calling 911 from a bag phone for free
>> were LIES!?!?!?!??! Oh no!!!!!!!
>>
>
> Hence the "Often" and "Not always" qualifiers.
>
> Show of hands, how many here call 911 on a regular basis? How many
> call other numbers?
You may notice that the statement was "No, but cellular is NEVER
free....(c;"... NO qualifiers, just an absolute NEVER statement (the
qualifier was on the WiFi statement, NOT on the cellular statement)
And come to think of it, how bout a show of hands, how many use their
internet phone to call 911? And how many have bag phones on their WiFi?
- 07-21-2006, 07:34 AM #43Guest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just found this info about Netgear's new Skype DIRECT phone....
>Skype internal, wifi transceiver, no computer necessary....
Could a person do same thing with their Pocket PC?
Use it as a portable Skype phone like unit above?
- 07-21-2006, 12:34 PM #44LarryGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in news:e9pfib$1dg$1
@jamiebaillie.com:
> And wifi is often cheaper than cellular. Not always, but often!
>
>
Sure beats 700 minutes for $60 a month!
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- 07-21-2006, 12:35 PM #45LarryGuest
Re: Your next phone a Netgear?
"Peter Pan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> NO qualifiers
Geez, we ARE draggin' the bottom of the ditch, now....
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the INS agents carrying off 3 people from the store...
See how many illegals you can get to abandon their carts...
moving YOU up in line....(c;
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