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  1. #1
    Ajanta
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    LONDON, Oct. 24 (UPI) -- While it has long been acknowledged that the
    props of modern life can be detrimental to one's emotional health, it
    emerged this week that two commonplace additions -- anti-depressants
    and the cell phone -- appear to negatively impact male fertility.
    A study conducted by Ohio's Cleveland Clinic found that the sperm
    counts of heavy mobile-phone users -- defined as four hours a day or
    more -- were 40 percent lower than those who used cell phones
    infrequently or not at all.

    The research examined 361 men who were about to begin fertility
    treatment and were having their sperm analyzed for that purpose.
    In addition to having lower sperm counts, the researchers found, the
    quality of the sperm of heavy cell-phone users was also diminished. Men
    who were moderate mobile-phone users also saw a loss is sperm count,
    although the lowered levels were less dramatic.

    Dr. Ashok Agarwal, who led the research, told The Times of London that
    he believed the electromagnetic fields generated by cell phones were
    responsible for the diminished sperm count.

    "People use mobile phones without thinking twice what the consequences
    may be," he said. "It is just like using a toothbrush, but mobiles
    could be having a devastating effect on fertility."

    However, other experts have dismissed the possibility of a cell phone,
    which is operated at skull-height, affecting the production of sperm.

    Anne Clark, of the Fertility Society of Australia, told the Herald Sun:
    "It is a bit of a stretch, especially when you're talking about
    electromagnetic forces traveling from the mobile to the scrotum."

    Clark, instead, thinks that lifestyle factors associated with
    mobile-phone use are behind the noted drop in sperm counts.

    "Someone who is always glued to their phone is also more likely to be
    someone in a high pressure office job, potentially a heavier drinker,
    smoker and someone who's overweight.
    "It's these guys that hang out in smoky bars, stressed and crunched up
    on their scrotum talking on the phone."

    At New York's Cornell Medical Center, meanwhile, scientists examining
    two patients found a link between anti-depressants and reduced sperm
    counts that begs further investigation.

    When treating both men for infertility, the researchers found that
    their low sperm counts recovered when not taking selective serotonin
    reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) to counteract depression, and fell
    accordingly when the treatment was resumed.

    Peter Schlegel, who presented the research to the American Society for
    Reproductive Medicine conference in New Orleans, where the cell-phone
    research was also presented, said: "The patients had normal sperm
    counts and motility before medication. On the medication they have
    severe deterioration of both. The same patients going on and off
    medication had the same pattern. It shows a strong association."

    The small study group means that the link must be explored further
    before being labeled concrete, but a clinical trial of 30 men has since
    begun, and results are expected in the not-too-distant future.
    ....
    ===



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  2. #2
    Larry
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    Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility

    Ajanta <[email protected]> wrote in news:251020060041587932%
    [email protected]:

    > A study conducted by Ohio's Cleveland Clinic found that the sperm
    > counts of heavy mobile-phone users -- defined as four hours a day or
    > more -- were 40 percent lower than those who used cell phones
    > infrequently or not at all.
    >


    Stupid idiots! Of COURSE they have lower sperm counts! Heavy cellphone
    users are TALKIN' ON THE PHONE instead of JERKIN' OFF!

    Wonder how much THAT study cost the taxpayers who need their roads paved?

    SEX - Use it or LOSE IT!

    --
    There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
    You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.



  3. #3
    Steven J. Sobol
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    Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility

    In article <[email protected]>, Larry wrote:

    > Stupid idiots! Of COURSE they have lower sperm counts! Heavy cellphone
    > users are TALKIN' ON THE PHONE instead of JERKIN' OFF!
    >
    > Wonder how much THAT study cost the taxpayers who need their roads paved?


    Heh. I'm not worried about it. I lived in Ohio for over 30 years - the
    roads are great, among the best in the nation.

    Personally, I'd bet they re-purposed the money from the schools.


    --
    Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
    Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED

    It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.



  4. #4
    Ajanta
    Guest

    Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility

    Jokes and politics apart, I think there s a serious health issue here.
    We are being bombarded by EM radiation in ever increasing amounts, but
    cell phones bring it that much closer to the body.

    Forgetting sperm counts, I wonder what studies might show about brain
    diseases in a few decades; the phones are much closer to the brain.



  5. #5
    Larry
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    Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility

    Ajanta <[email protected]> wrote in news:261020061558584370%
    [email protected]:

    > Forgetting sperm counts, I wonder what studies might show about brain
    > diseases in a few decades; the phones are much closer to the brain.
    >
    >


    All this worry is for nothing. An old ham friend of mine, Linwood Sikes,
    N4LS, died a couple of years ago. He was a ham radio operator running
    kilowatt transmitters since there were kilowatt transmitters, since
    before the FCC was invented in 1934! Linwood was a transmitter
    technician all his life, working on open frame kilowatt transmitters in
    the 20's and 30's, worked for United Airlines putting high powered HF
    transmitters in United's offices so they could talk with the airplanes,
    directly, going across the oceans ("Alameda calling China
    Clipper!...Alameda calling China Clipper!...Come in China Clipper!!"),
    working on high powered VHF RADARs in WW2. Linwood was South Carolina's
    first FM mobile radio dealer, Sikes Radio, for Motorola, from the end of
    the war until he decided it was time for his son to run it. It's still
    in business, today. He put broadcast stations on the air and ran their
    old transmitters on AM and later FM.

    As you sat in his ham shack, watching an old CW (Morse Code) radio
    operator pleasuring himself, the air over your head was tinged in blue
    from the old home brew antenna tuners and open wire feeders feeding his
    kilowatts to the antenna farm behind his house. He could copy Morse
    Code, by the way, faster than I can type....and talk to you and drink
    coffee simultaneously.

    Linwood's gone now. He died at 92, a real piece of radio history lost
    forever. I was honored to be a part of his late life. Oh, the stories
    he could tell would just hold you *****bound....(c;

    If RF were THAT dangerous, all the broadcast engineers and technicians
    wouldn't live into their 80's and 90's. I know many of them, who have
    been operating transmitters most of their lives from 1 kilowatt on AM to
    4 GIGAWATTS on UHF TV, where the klystron tubes are BIGGER THAN YOU ARE!

    Your cellphone doesn't radiate as much RF energy as your computer is
    radiating, as you read this. Don't think so? Turn on any AM radio next
    to your computer or monitor. The air is blue with RF!

    To add to your worry, you'd better pay more attention to the government
    bureaucrats' new Tesla Toy, HAARP, a 10 Gigawatt steerable antenna
    transmitter array in Gakona, AK, designed to tear a hole in the
    ionosphere, where, right over your head, there are billions of watts of
    energy just waiting for the Air Force and Navy's HAARP weapon to rip it
    open to see what will happen to you. Search Google on HAARP and read the
    books written about it......

    ......one of its effects is MIND CONTROL!




  6. #6
    Mij Adyaw
    Guest

    Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility


    "Steven J. Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>, Larry wrote:
    >
    >> Stupid idiots! Of COURSE they have lower sperm counts! Heavy cellphone
    >> users are TALKIN' ON THE PHONE instead of JERKIN' OFF!
    >>


    That makes perfect sense. Thanks for the clarification. I can't believe that
    they most likely spent tax payer dollars on that study when the answer was
    so simple.





  7. #7
    Micky
    Guest

    Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility

    They may turn off the vibrator. If the study was conducted with enabled
    vibrator, they should get the opposit result.


    Ajanta wrote:
    > <http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...061024-123659-
    > 7026r>
    >
    > LONDON, Oct. 24 (UPI) -- While it has long been acknowledged that the
    > props of modern life can be detrimental to one's emotional health, it
    > emerged this week that two commonplace additions -- anti-depressants
    > and the cell phone -- appear to negatively impact male fertility.
    > A study conducted by Ohio's Cleveland Clinic found that the sperm
    > counts of heavy mobile-phone users -- defined as four hours a day or
    > more -- were 40 percent lower than those who used cell phones
    > infrequently or not at all.
    >
    > The research examined 361 men who were about to begin fertility
    > treatment and were having their sperm analyzed for that purpose.
    > In addition to having lower sperm counts, the researchers found, the
    > quality of the sperm of heavy cell-phone users was also diminished. Men
    > who were moderate mobile-phone users also saw a loss is sperm count,
    > although the lowered levels were less dramatic.
    >
    > Dr. Ashok Agarwal, who led the research, told The Times of London that
    > he believed the electromagnetic fields generated by cell phones were
    > responsible for the diminished sperm count.
    >
    > "People use mobile phones without thinking twice what the consequences
    > may be," he said. "It is just like using a toothbrush, but mobiles
    > could be having a devastating effect on fertility."
    >
    > However, other experts have dismissed the possibility of a cell phone,
    > which is operated at skull-height, affecting the production of sperm.
    >
    > Anne Clark, of the Fertility Society of Australia, told the Herald Sun:
    > "It is a bit of a stretch, especially when you're talking about
    > electromagnetic forces traveling from the mobile to the scrotum."
    >
    > Clark, instead, thinks that lifestyle factors associated with
    > mobile-phone use are behind the noted drop in sperm counts.
    >
    > "Someone who is always glued to their phone is also more likely to be
    > someone in a high pressure office job, potentially a heavier drinker,
    > smoker and someone who's overweight.
    > "It's these guys that hang out in smoky bars, stressed and crunched up
    > on their scrotum talking on the phone."
    >
    > At New York's Cornell Medical Center, meanwhile, scientists examining
    > two patients found a link between anti-depressants and reduced sperm
    > counts that begs further investigation.
    >
    > When treating both men for infertility, the researchers found that
    > their low sperm counts recovered when not taking selective serotonin
    > reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) to counteract depression, and fell
    > accordingly when the treatment was resumed.
    >
    > Peter Schlegel, who presented the research to the American Society for
    > Reproductive Medicine conference in New Orleans, where the cell-phone
    > research was also presented, said: "The patients had normal sperm
    > counts and motility before medication. On the medication they have
    > severe deterioration of both. The same patients going on and off
    > medication had the same pattern. It shows a strong association."
    >
    > The small study group means that the link must be explored further
    > before being labeled concrete, but a clinical trial of 30 men has since
    > begun, and results are expected in the not-too-distant future.
    > ...
    > ===





  8. #8
    matt weber
    Guest

    Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility

    On 27 Oct 2006 23:48:34 -0700, "Micky" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >They may turn off the vibrator. If the study was conducted with enabled
    >vibrator, they should get the opposit result.
    >
    >
    >Ajanta wrote:
    >> <http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDai...061024-123659-
    >> 7026r>
    >>
    >> LONDON, Oct. 24 (UPI) -- While it has long been acknowledged that the
    >> props of modern life can be detrimental to one's emotional health, it
    >> emerged this week that two commonplace additions -- anti-depressants
    >> and the cell phone -- appear to negatively impact male fertility.
    >> A study conducted by Ohio's Cleveland Clinic found that the sperm
    >> counts of heavy mobile-phone users -- defined as four hours a day or
    >> more -- were 40 percent lower than those who used cell phones
    >> infrequently or not at all.
    >>
    >> The research examined 361 men who were about to begin fertility
    >> treatment and were having their sperm analyzed for that purpose.
    >> In addition to having lower sperm counts, the researchers found, the
    >> quality of the sperm of heavy cell-phone users was also diminished. Men
    >> who were moderate mobile-phone users also saw a loss is sperm count,
    >> although the lowered levels were less dramatic.
    >>
    >> Dr. Ashok Agarwal, who led the research, told The Times of London that
    >> he believed the electromagnetic fields generated by cell phones were
    >> responsible for the diminished sperm count.
    >>
    >> "People use mobile phones without thinking twice what the consequences
    >> may be," he said. "It is just like using a toothbrush, but mobiles
    >> could be having a devastating effect on fertility."
    >>
    >> However, other experts have dismissed the possibility of a cell phone,
    >> which is operated at skull-height, affecting the production of sperm.
    >>
    >> Anne Clark, of the Fertility Society of Australia, told the Herald Sun:
    >> "It is a bit of a stretch, especially when you're talking about
    >> electromagnetic forces traveling from the mobile to the scrotum."
    >>
    >> Clark, instead, thinks that lifestyle factors associated with
    >> mobile-phone use are behind the noted drop in sperm counts.
    >>
    >> "Someone who is always glued to their phone is also more likely to be
    >> someone in a high pressure office job, potentially a heavier drinker,
    >> smoker and someone who's overweight.
    >> "It's these guys that hang out in smoky bars, stressed and crunched up
    >> on their scrotum talking on the phone."
    >>
    >> At New York's Cornell Medical Center, meanwhile, scientists examining
    >> two patients found a link between anti-depressants and reduced sperm
    >> counts that begs further investigation.
    >>
    >> When treating both men for infertility, the researchers found that
    >> their low sperm counts recovered when not taking selective serotonin
    >> reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) to counteract depression, and fell
    >> accordingly when the treatment was resumed.
    >>
    >> Peter Schlegel, who presented the research to the American Society for
    >> Reproductive Medicine conference in New Orleans, where the cell-phone
    >> research was also presented, said: "The patients had normal sperm
    >> counts and motility before medication. On the medication they have
    >> severe deterioration of both. The same patients going on and off
    >> medication had the same pattern. It shows a strong association."
    >>
    >> The small study group means that the link must be explored further
    >> before being labeled concrete, but a clinical trial of 30 men has since
    >> begun, and results are expected in the not-too-distant future.
    >> ...
    >> ===

    Many antidepressants, particularly in the SSRI class are known to
    interfere with sexual performance.

    As for the cell phone, a link is not necessarily a causative link. I'd
    worry more about personality traits if someone lives on a cell phone,
    and keep in mind, if they are being treated for infertility, there is
    likely to be a problem to start with.



  9. #9
    bamp
    Guest

    Re: Study: cell phones diminish male fertility


    "Steven J. Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>, Larry wrote:
    >
    >> Stupid idiots! Of COURSE they have lower sperm counts! Heavy cellphone
    >> users are TALKIN' ON THE PHONE instead of JERKIN' OFF!
    >>
    >> Wonder how much THAT study cost the taxpayers who need their roads paved?

    >
    > Heh. I'm not worried about it. I lived in Ohio for over 30 years - the
    > roads are great, among the best in the nation.
    >
    > Personally, I'd bet they re-purposed the money from the schools.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl **
    > Linux/*BSD/Windows
    > Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
    >
    > It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
    >

    Break out the Tin Foil hats!!
    ...
    bamp






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