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  1. #1
    Hello!

    I have an odd question hopefully someone can shed some light on. I
    live in the boonies and use Alltel. Around the towns reception is
    fine, but out in the sticks (a hunting cabin and in my truck) I've
    used makeshift external antenna to improve the reception on my older LG
    phone. It has one of those little pull-out antennas that you can
    easily unscrew from the phone, which allows me to screw in a makeshift
    adapter connected to my external antennas. For the cabin I simply
    insert the stripped end of coax so it is touching the threads of the
    antenna input on the phone. 'Obviously not mobile, but at least you
    can get reception inside the building when necessary.

    The problem: I need to upgrade phones, and few if any seem to have
    easily-removable antennas. In fact the phones I like most (e.g.
    Samsung SCH-U520) has only an internal antenna.

    I guess my question is what my options might be at this point. I
    suspect that simply having the stripped end of coax near that internal
    antenna area of the phone would improve reception, but perhaps not (I
    note that the phone has a warning on it for users not to touch it while
    using the phone). Perhaps there are other decent Alltel models out
    there with removable antennas I haven't seen. I guess keeping the
    old phone and simply adding a phone/line is a possibility, but since I
    would only be using the old phone infrequently this doesn't seem
    ideal.

    Any thoughts appreciated...thanks!
    Coyotefred




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  2. #2
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    Re: Using external antenna with newer phones???

    Most Motos, if not all, have an external antenna connection. The folks at
    http://www.canyonriver.com sell antennas and adapters. There are several
    other good vendors for this stuff, but I don't have the links handy. I think
    Treos and a lot of Kyoceras also have antenna ports.



    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Hello!
    >
    > I have an odd question hopefully someone can shed some light on. I
    > live in the boonies and use Alltel. Around the towns reception is
    > fine, but out in the sticks (a hunting cabin and in my truck) I've
    > used makeshift external antenna to improve the reception on my older LG
    > phone. It has one of those little pull-out antennas that you can
    > easily unscrew from the phone, which allows me to screw in a makeshift
    > adapter connected to my external antennas. For the cabin I simply
    > insert the stripped end of coax so it is touching the threads of the
    > antenna input on the phone. 'Obviously not mobile, but at least you
    > can get reception inside the building when necessary.
    >
    > The problem: I need to upgrade phones, and few if any seem to have
    > easily-removable antennas. In fact the phones I like most (e.g.
    > Samsung SCH-U520) has only an internal antenna.
    >
    > I guess my question is what my options might be at this point. I
    > suspect that simply having the stripped end of coax near that internal
    > antenna area of the phone would improve reception, but perhaps not (I
    > note that the phone has a warning on it for users not to touch it while
    > using the phone). Perhaps there are other decent Alltel models out
    > there with removable antennas I haven't seen. I guess keeping the
    > old phone and simply adding a phone/line is a possibility, but since I
    > would only be using the old phone infrequently this doesn't seem
    > ideal.
    >
    > Any thoughts appreciated...thanks!
    > Coyotefred
    >






  3. #3
    Larry
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    Re: Using external antenna with newer phones???

    [email protected] wrote in news:1168026704.786038.150220
    @v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:

    > The problem: I need to upgrade phones, and few if any seem to have
    > easily-removable antennas. In fact the phones I like most (e.g.
    > Samsung SCH-U520) has only an internal antenna.
    >
    >


    Cellular has been lowering the output RF levels in all cellphones since
    digital came in vogue. The reason is so they can put up more towers,
    closer together, increasing the number of users per square mile in the
    revenue-generating cities where demand keeps rising.

    The only way to make this work is to reduce the power the phone puts out
    to a worse antenna so it doesn't radiate very far, in addition to digital
    cellular's ability to turn the transmitters power down by remote control
    from the tower software. The idea was great, but there were so many
    holes in the systems the little phones kept running full power, taking up
    too many cell sectors of too many towers they could resell to others.

    So, the phones' maximum power output keeps dropping....600mw AMPS
    handhelds became 300mw digitals, then 200mw then 150mw into an internal
    antenna comparible in radiative power to a bent pin. How much range do
    you thing THAT will have in the country. They stopped selling long range
    cellphones long ago....er, ah....in the interest of RF safety, you know,
    the scare tactic used on the public to get them to swallow it. It
    worked!

    So, what can you do with this new toyphone and it's micropowered flea
    whistle of a transmitter??

    http://cellantenna.com/repeater/cae50_gemini.htm

    If you climb up on the roof of the cabin, can you make a cellphone call
    from up there? If so, it'll work. If not, it probably won't....

    If you know your system is the 800 Mhz cell system, a better antenna far
    more directional than the panel is a yagi like is on:
    http://cellantenna.com/Antennas/yagi.htm
    I'm using an 11 element Decibel Products paging yagi on my cellular
    mobile repeater for service in the country. I erect it at my worksite
    over my steel stepvan about 30' up and point it at the best signal on the
    bar graph meter on my Motorola V60i when it's out of range. Works great
    on 850 Mhz cell A or B.

    Read the webpages for more info and call 'em they'll help you figure out
    the best system for your location.




  4. #4
    Dennis Ferguson
    Guest

    Re: Using external antenna with newer phones???

    On 2007-01-05, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    > I have an odd question hopefully someone can shed some light on. I
    > live in the boonies and use Alltel. Around the towns reception is
    > fine, but out in the sticks (a hunting cabin and in my truck) I've
    > used makeshift external antenna to improve the reception on my older LG
    > phone. It has one of those little pull-out antennas that you can
    > easily unscrew from the phone, which allows me to screw in a makeshift
    > adapter connected to my external antennas. For the cabin I simply
    > insert the stripped end of coax so it is touching the threads of the
    > antenna input on the phone. 'Obviously not mobile, but at least you
    > can get reception inside the building when necessary.


    You might try looking here:

    http://www.alternativewireless.com/c...onnecting.html

    A lot of phones have an external antenna port somewhere, usually
    near the phone's antenna and usually covered up by a rubber disk.
    If you get a phone that has one you can buy a cable with a connector
    that matches the phone on one end and a standard connector for an
    external antenna on the other. If you connect this way you'll probably
    find it works better than what you do now.

    The only thing I'd worry about is I suspect those teeny tiny little
    connectors have a limited life with respect to the number of times
    they'll survive being plugged and unplugged, though I have no idea
    whether "limited" is closer to 100 times or 10,000. If you buy one
    maybe you can report back on how long it lasts.

    Dennis Ferguson



  5. #5

    Re: Using external antenna with newer phones???

    [email protected] spake thusly and wrote:

    >I guess keeping the
    >old phone and simply adding a phone/line is a possibility, but since I
    >would only be using the old phone infrequently this doesn't seem
    >ideal.


    If you had something like the Dock-N-Talk (if your phone is
    supported), you could leave it nailed up and just use regular
    phones or a cordless phone and get a second line for the phone
    you take with you. We just switched two of our lines the same way
    to some old Motorola phones and it works fantastic.

    We have to have antennas to get our Alltel to work here as well.

    Steve
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