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  1. #1
    Larry
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    "Bob F" <[email protected]> wrote in news:EqSdnZ75ovsu_
    [email protected]:

    >
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really
    >> pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
    >> call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
    >> auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
    >> company, and 3 calls from my brother.
    >> I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***

    >
    > Turn off the ringer on your phone.
    >
    >
    >


    .....or turn off voicemail notification and forward all calls to there...
    (c;

    Skype is the ultimate one-way phone system. Noone can call you because
    you have NO NUMBER unless you buy Skype In! "I'll call you.", they say.
    "No you won't.", you retort....(c;




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  2. #2
    Bob F
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    Re: DO NOT CALL list


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really
    > pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
    > call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
    > auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
    > company, and 3 calls from my brother.
    > I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***


    Turn off the ringer on your phone.





  3. #3
    nfrabbit
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    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    On Sat, 03 May 2008 00:08:14 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

    >I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really
    >pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
    >call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
    >auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
    >company, and 3 calls from my brother.
    >I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***
    >


    You are joking, aren't you?



  4. #4
    Larry
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    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    "SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
    @news.infowest.com:

    > The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
    >
    >


    This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
    card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
    back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
    started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
    already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
    Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
    high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
    rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
    every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
    at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.

    So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
    Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
    interest, no charges.

    One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....




  5. #5
    SteveB
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really
    > pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
    > call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
    > auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
    > company, and 3 calls from my brother.
    > I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***


    The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.

    I start talking to them.

    What color underwear do you have on? I like white. I don't like Fruit of
    the Loom because they pinch me.

    Do you have a dog? I had a dog. His name was Skippy. He ran away. But I
    think my father took Skippy out to the farms and let him go. I miss Skippy.
    I want to get a hamster.

    Do you go to school? I go to special school. Mrs Rogers is my teacher.
    She's nice. She wears pretty dresses.

    Wait a minute, someone is knocking at the door .................. then don't
    speak.

    And I say these things right in the middle of a sentence when they are
    making their pitch, or after they have made a lengthy statement. Then stay
    quiet. Long pauses. Speak as if you are six years old.

    They will take you off the list. Before I did this, I would have someone
    call me saying my insurance was going to lapse. I didn't have insurance
    with that company, and we both knew it. I'd get indignant and say not to
    call again, and next week or month, they would call again. One of these
    conversations, and I never heard from them again.

    Your time is valuable. This takes a little time, but it works to get them
    to take you off the list. I like to ask them, "What is your home number and
    when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then." Sometimes you cannot
    insult them enough to get them to quit calling you. But thoroughly wasting
    their time does work.

    Steve





  6. #6
    aspasia
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
    <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:

    [...]

    >Your time is valuable. This takes a little time, but it works to get them
    >to take you off the list. I like to ask them, "What is your home number and
    >when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then." Sometimes you cannot
    >insult them enough to get them to quit calling you. But thoroughly wasting
    >their time does work.


    [...]

    I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
    the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
    they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
    are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
    how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
    you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
    people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.

    My method is just to say politely: "I do not accept telephone
    solicitations. Please remove me from your calling list."
    Seems to work, as I get very few such calls, and when they
    goof and call again, I remind them this isn't making friends
    for the organization.

    The kind of bullying described above, IMHO, is cheap and
    tacky. Treat everyone as you would want to be treated yourself,
    and don't take out your own problems on others.





  7. #7
    aspasia
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:27:35 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
    >@news.infowest.com:
    >
    >> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
    >card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
    >back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
    >started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
    >already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
    >Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
    >high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
    >rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
    >every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
    >at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.
    >
    >So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
    >Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
    >interest, no charges.
    >
    >One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....


    It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
    credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of
    the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
    that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
    department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.

    I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
    this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to
    about 2 or 3 -- why more?)

    BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
    that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
    economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?





  8. #8
    djay
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list


    <aspasia> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:27:35 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
    >>@news.infowest.com:
    >>
    >>> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
    >>card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
    >>back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
    >>started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
    >>already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
    >>Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
    >>high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
    >>rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
    >>every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
    >>at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.
    >>
    >>So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
    >>Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
    >>interest, no charges.
    >>
    >>One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....

    >
    > It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
    > credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of
    > the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
    > that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
    > department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.
    >
    > I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
    > this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to
    > about 2 or 3 -- why more?)
    >
    > BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
    > that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
    > economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?
    >
    >


    Yes you are correct in what you posted. Opening them isn't a huge deal it's
    when you close them that you have trouble with your credit score. Each
    credit card carries its separate revolving credit account (of course) and
    the debt to credit ratio is a good thing (if you always pay off the cards at
    the end of the month - shows responsibility blah blah blah). However when
    you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative) debt
    to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.





  9. #9
    Banty
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    In article <[email protected]>, aspasia says...
    >
    >On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
    ><toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:
    >
    >[...]
    >
    >>Your time is valuable. This takes a little time, but it works to get them
    >>to take you off the list. I like to ask them, "What is your home number and
    >>when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then." Sometimes you cannot
    >>insult them enough to get them to quit calling you. But thoroughly wasting
    >>their time does work.

    >
    >[...]
    >
    >I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
    >the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
    >they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
    >are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
    >how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
    >you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
    >people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
    >
    >My method is just to say politely: "I do not accept telephone
    >solicitations. Please remove me from your calling list."
    >Seems to work, as I get very few such calls, and when they
    >goof and call again, I remind them this isn't making friends
    >for the organization.
    >
    >The kind of bullying described above, IMHO, is cheap and
    >tacky. Treat everyone as you would want to be treated yourself,
    >and don't take out your own problems on others.


    I just say "not interested" and hang up. Because *my* time is valuable.

    But I don't see the telemarketers as poor hapless would-be welfare cases trying
    to earn a buck. They've accepted a job which is all about being rude and
    intrusive, instead of a job getting breakfast to a trucker in a diner or
    shovelling gravel into a french drain for a landscaper (and yes - I've done
    both). I don't have time to play games with them, but I'm not exactly going to
    cry tears over their getting the brunt of others' frustration with them either.

    Banty




  10. #10
    Frank
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    aspasia wrote:
    > On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
    > <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:
    >
    > I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
    > the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
    > they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
    > are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
    > how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
    > you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
    > people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
    >

    If my computer is on, I turn up the volume, put phone near speaker and
    log in here:

    http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/



  11. #11
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    "djay" <[email protected]> wrote in newsA1Tj.1313$sp.47@trnddc02:

    > However when
    > you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative)
    > debt to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.
    >
    >


    All this assumes, of course, that you CARE about what "they", the
    fractional bankers, think about you. As I don't care, any more, and
    haven't since 1991 when I finally walked out of the debt trap into the
    clear air, it doesn't really matter.

    They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c;




  12. #12
    aspasia
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    On Sat, 03 May 2008 17:34:50 -0400, Frank
    <frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet> wrote:

    >aspasia wrote:
    >> On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
    >> <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:
    >>
    >> I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
    >> the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
    >> they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
    >> are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
    >> how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
    >> you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
    >> people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
    >>

    >If my computer is on, I turn up the volume, put phone near speaker and
    >log in here:
    >
    >http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/


    Well, I should probably give up...but...

    Your method is just more cheap, juvenile gratification.

    The poster who just says "not interested" and hangs up is
    at least more mature.

    Can't you get your kicks some more productive way?



  13. #13
    willshak
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    on 5/3/2008 7:01 PM aspasia said the following:
    > On Sat, 03 May 2008 17:34:50 -0400, Frank
    > <frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet> wrote:
    >
    >
    >> aspasia wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
    >>> <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
    >>> the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
    >>> they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
    >>> are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
    >>> how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
    >>> you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
    >>> people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> If my computer is on, I turn up the volume, put phone near speaker and
    >> log in here:
    >>
    >> http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
    >>

    >
    > Well, I should probably give up...but...
    >
    > Your method is just more cheap, juvenile gratification.
    >
    > The poster who just says "not interested" and hangs up is
    > at least more mature.
    >
    > Can't you get your kicks some more productive way?
    >

    Well, it's not as bad as some others who espouse settling all disputes
    with a gun.

    --

    Bill
    In Hamptonburgh, NY
    To email, remove the double zeroes after @



  14. #14
    aspasia
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    On Sat, 03 May 2008 22:57:17 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"djay" <[email protected]> wrote in newsA1Tj.1313$sp.47@trnddc02:
    >
    >> However when
    >> you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative)
    >> debt to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >All this assumes, of course, that you CARE about what "they", the
    >fractional bankers, think about you. As I don't care, any more, and
    >haven't since 1991 when I finally walked out of the debt trap into the
    >clear air, it doesn't really matter.
    >
    >They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c;


    Listen, I hate those miserable bastards as much as the next person,
    but let's be realistic: If you have responsibilities toward others --
    family, relatives, whatever -- you have to kiss the credit folks' ***
    in order to get a good interest rate in case you need an emergency
    loan for medical or other reasons, or you want to buy a house, or...

    I think it's sickening that they base their ****ing scores on
    mechanical data that don't necessarily reflect the borrower's
    true repayment status, but who said life is fair!

    Since you say you're staying out of the game, more power to you!
    How anybody survives in today's America w/o borrowing is a source for
    wonderment and admiration.

    Aspasia



  15. #15
    Red Green
    Guest

    Re: DO NOT CALL list

    aspasia wrote in news:[email protected]:

    > On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:27:35 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
    >>@news.infowest.com:
    >>
    >>> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved
    >>credit card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards.
    >>I sent two back saying no and take me off the list, but they
    >>persisted. So, I started sending them in to see if they'd really send
    >>me more cards. (I already have one.) They kept sending them and
    >>sending them. I have 10 Chase Business cards, now, all with different
    >>numbers on them with really high credit limits....all with 3% cashback
    >>and no fees. Every month, I rotate using them to keep them active as
    >>you must use them at least once every 12 months to keep them active.
    >>I can now afford open heart surgery at the best hospital in the
    >>country with the highest priced vampires.
    >>
    >>So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
    >> Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
    >>interest, no charges.
    >>
    >>One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big
    >>corporations.....

    >
    > It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
    > credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of
    > the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
    > that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
    > department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.
    >
    > I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
    > this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to
    > about 2 or 3 -- why more?)
    >
    > BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
    > that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
    > economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?
    >
    >


    Also, the more cards you have the higher the probability of identity
    theft.



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