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- 05-03-2008, 06:47 AM #1LarryGuest
"Bob F" <[email protected]> wrote in news:EqSdnZ75ovsu_
[email protected]:
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really
>> pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
>> call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
>> auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
>> company, and 3 calls from my brother.
>> I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***
>
> Turn off the ringer on your phone.
>
>
>
.....or turn off voicemail notification and forward all calls to there...
(c;
Skype is the ultimate one-way phone system. Noone can call you because
you have NO NUMBER unless you buy Skype In! "I'll call you.", they say.
"No you won't.", you retort....(c;
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- 05-03-2008, 07:03 AM #2Bob FGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really
> pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
> call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
> auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
> company, and 3 calls from my brother.
> I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***
Turn off the ringer on your phone.
- 05-03-2008, 08:16 AM #3nfrabbitGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
On Sat, 03 May 2008 00:08:14 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really
>pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
>call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
>auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
>company, and 3 calls from my brother.
>I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***
>
You are joking, aren't you?
- 05-03-2008, 10:27 AM #4LarryGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
@news.infowest.com:
> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
>
>
This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.
So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
interest, no charges.
One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....
- 05-03-2008, 10:40 AM #5SteveBGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really
> pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
> call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
> auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
> company, and 3 calls from my brother.
> I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***
The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
I start talking to them.
What color underwear do you have on? I like white. I don't like Fruit of
the Loom because they pinch me.
Do you have a dog? I had a dog. His name was Skippy. He ran away. But I
think my father took Skippy out to the farms and let him go. I miss Skippy.
I want to get a hamster.
Do you go to school? I go to special school. Mrs Rogers is my teacher.
She's nice. She wears pretty dresses.
Wait a minute, someone is knocking at the door .................. then don't
speak.
And I say these things right in the middle of a sentence when they are
making their pitch, or after they have made a lengthy statement. Then stay
quiet. Long pauses. Speak as if you are six years old.
They will take you off the list. Before I did this, I would have someone
call me saying my insurance was going to lapse. I didn't have insurance
with that company, and we both knew it. I'd get indignant and say not to
call again, and next week or month, they would call again. One of these
conversations, and I never heard from them again.
Your time is valuable. This takes a little time, but it works to get them
to take you off the list. I like to ask them, "What is your home number and
when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then." Sometimes you cannot
insult them enough to get them to quit calling you. But thoroughly wasting
their time does work.
Steve
- 05-03-2008, 11:32 AM #6aspasiaGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
<toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:
[...]
>Your time is valuable. This takes a little time, but it works to get them
>to take you off the list. I like to ask them, "What is your home number and
>when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then." Sometimes you cannot
>insult them enough to get them to quit calling you. But thoroughly wasting
>their time does work.
[...]
I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
My method is just to say politely: "I do not accept telephone
solicitations. Please remove me from your calling list."
Seems to work, as I get very few such calls, and when they
goof and call again, I remind them this isn't making friends
for the organization.
The kind of bullying described above, IMHO, is cheap and
tacky. Treat everyone as you would want to be treated yourself,
and don't take out your own problems on others.
- 05-03-2008, 11:36 AM #7aspasiaGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:27:35 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
>@news.infowest.com:
>
>> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
>>
>>
>
>This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
>card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
>back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
>started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
>already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
>Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
>high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
>rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
>every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
>at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.
>
>So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
>Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
>interest, no charges.
>
>One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....
It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of
the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.
I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to
about 2 or 3 -- why more?)
BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?
- 05-03-2008, 11:49 AM #8djayGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
<aspasia> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:27:35 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
>>@news.infowest.com:
>>
>>> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
>>card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
>>back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
>>started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
>>already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
>>Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
>>high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
>>rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
>>every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
>>at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.
>>
>>So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
>>Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
>>interest, no charges.
>>
>>One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....
>
> It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
> credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of
> the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
> that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
> department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.
>
> I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
> this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to
> about 2 or 3 -- why more?)
>
> BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
> that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
> economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?
>
>
Yes you are correct in what you posted. Opening them isn't a huge deal it's
when you close them that you have trouble with your credit score. Each
credit card carries its separate revolving credit account (of course) and
the debt to credit ratio is a good thing (if you always pay off the cards at
the end of the month - shows responsibility blah blah blah). However when
you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative) debt
to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.
- 05-03-2008, 01:05 PM #9BantyGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
In article <[email protected]>, aspasia says...
>
>On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
><toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>Your time is valuable. This takes a little time, but it works to get them
>>to take you off the list. I like to ask them, "What is your home number and
>>when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then." Sometimes you cannot
>>insult them enough to get them to quit calling you. But thoroughly wasting
>>their time does work.
>
>[...]
>
>I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
>the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
>they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
>are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
>how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
>you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
>people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
>
>My method is just to say politely: "I do not accept telephone
>solicitations. Please remove me from your calling list."
>Seems to work, as I get very few such calls, and when they
>goof and call again, I remind them this isn't making friends
>for the organization.
>
>The kind of bullying described above, IMHO, is cheap and
>tacky. Treat everyone as you would want to be treated yourself,
>and don't take out your own problems on others.
I just say "not interested" and hang up. Because *my* time is valuable.
But I don't see the telemarketers as poor hapless would-be welfare cases trying
to earn a buck. They've accepted a job which is all about being rude and
intrusive, instead of a job getting breakfast to a trucker in a diner or
shovelling gravel into a french drain for a landscaper (and yes - I've done
both). I don't have time to play games with them, but I'm not exactly going to
cry tears over their getting the brunt of others' frustration with them either.
Banty
- 05-03-2008, 03:34 PM #10FrankGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
aspasia wrote:
> On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
> <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:
>
> I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
> the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
> they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
> are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
> how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
> you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
> people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
>
If my computer is on, I turn up the volume, put phone near speaker and
log in here:
http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
- 05-03-2008, 04:57 PM #11LarryGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
"djay" <[email protected]> wrote in newsA1Tj.1313$sp.47@trnddc02:
> However when
> you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative)
> debt to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.
>
>
All this assumes, of course, that you CARE about what "they", the
fractional bankers, think about you. As I don't care, any more, and
haven't since 1991 when I finally walked out of the debt trap into the
clear air, it doesn't really matter.
They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c;
- 05-03-2008, 05:01 PM #12aspasiaGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
On Sat, 03 May 2008 17:34:50 -0400, Frank
<frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet> wrote:
>aspasia wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
>> <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:
>>
>> I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
>> the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
>> they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
>> are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
>> how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
>> you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
>> people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
>>
>If my computer is on, I turn up the volume, put phone near speaker and
>log in here:
>
>http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
Well, I should probably give up...but...
Your method is just more cheap, juvenile gratification.
The poster who just says "not interested" and hangs up is
at least more mature.
Can't you get your kicks some more productive way?
- 05-03-2008, 05:06 PM #13willshakGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
on 5/3/2008 7:01 PM aspasia said the following:
> On Sat, 03 May 2008 17:34:50 -0400, Frank
> <frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet> wrote:
>
>
>> aspasia wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 08:40:36 -0800, "SteveB"
>>> <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not
>>> the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather
>>> they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These
>>> are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine
>>> how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before
>>> you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
>>> people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
>>>
>>>
>> If my computer is on, I turn up the volume, put phone near speaker and
>> log in here:
>>
>> http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
>>
>
> Well, I should probably give up...but...
>
> Your method is just more cheap, juvenile gratification.
>
> The poster who just says "not interested" and hangs up is
> at least more mature.
>
> Can't you get your kicks some more productive way?
>
Well, it's not as bad as some others who espouse settling all disputes
with a gun.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
- 05-03-2008, 06:30 PM #14aspasiaGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
On Sat, 03 May 2008 22:57:17 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>"djay" <[email protected]> wrote in newsA1Tj.1313$sp.47@trnddc02:
>
>> However when
>> you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative)
>> debt to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.
>>
>>
>
>All this assumes, of course, that you CARE about what "they", the
>fractional bankers, think about you. As I don't care, any more, and
>haven't since 1991 when I finally walked out of the debt trap into the
>clear air, it doesn't really matter.
>
>They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c;
Listen, I hate those miserable bastards as much as the next person,
but let's be realistic: If you have responsibilities toward others --
family, relatives, whatever -- you have to kiss the credit folks' ***
in order to get a good interest rate in case you need an emergency
loan for medical or other reasons, or you want to buy a house, or...
I think it's sickening that they base their ****ing scores on
mechanical data that don't necessarily reflect the borrower's
true repayment status, but who said life is fair!
Since you say you're staying out of the game, more power to you!
How anybody survives in today's America w/o borrowing is a source for
wonderment and admiration.
Aspasia
- 05-03-2008, 06:40 PM #15Red GreenGuest
Re: DO NOT CALL list
aspasia wrote in news:[email protected]:
> On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:27:35 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
>>@news.infowest.com:
>>
>>> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved
>>credit card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards.
>>I sent two back saying no and take me off the list, but they
>>persisted. So, I started sending them in to see if they'd really send
>>me more cards. (I already have one.) They kept sending them and
>>sending them. I have 10 Chase Business cards, now, all with different
>>numbers on them with really high credit limits....all with 3% cashback
>>and no fees. Every month, I rotate using them to keep them active as
>>you must use them at least once every 12 months to keep them active.
>>I can now afford open heart surgery at the best hospital in the
>>country with the highest priced vampires.
>>
>>So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
>> Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
>>interest, no charges.
>>
>>One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big
>>corporations.....
>
> It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
> credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of
> the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
> that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
> department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.
>
> I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
> this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to
> about 2 or 3 -- why more?)
>
> BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
> that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
> economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?
>
>
Also, the more cards you have the higher the probability of identity
theft.
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