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    i am halfway there to getting my iphone 3g just another 200GBP to go, should hopefully have the money to buy it next week. though i have been looking on youtube and there is talk of the apple iphone 4g coming out soon
    do you guys think its stil viable to go out and buy an iphone3g, ort should i just wait and get the 4g?


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    Re: apple i phone 3g or wait for 4g?

    anyone care to comment?



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    Re: apple i phone 3g or wait for 4g?

    Sure, I just bought a 3G iPhone last Friday, and then learned about the new model a couple of days later. I'm wishing I would have know, as I would have probably waited, but after reviewing the features that the new phone will have, (improved lower power wi-fi, 5 mega-pixel camera, stereo speakers, 32 gig memory), I'm not exactly banging my head against the wall. I could only swing the 8 gig version, but for me, that seems to be ok as well. Sure, I'd like to have the newer features, especially the lower powered wi-fi, which will be able to connect automatically to wi-fi hot spots. However, I don't think that the new phone will be SO much better that I'll HAVE to have it. The upgrades are not that huge. at $199 for the 8 Gig and $299 for the 16 gig, following the $100 per 8 gig increase, the new phone will probably go for $499 for the 32 gig model. Not sure if they'll have 8 and 16 gig (or 16 and 32 gig) or whatever, but the extra cost for the extra memory is going to come into consideration. For me, I'm completely happy with the 8 gig 3G puppy I just got, and am already salivating over the 3.0 update that is just around the corner. I'm more excited about that than I am over the new hardware upgrades that are due with the new phone. From what I'm reading, the 3.0 update, which will even be available for the original models sans 1 or 2 features, and the update looks very exciting. Cut and paste, MMS messaging, landscape keyboard anywhere, and in total about 100 new features. Aside from that, there's about 1000 new api's for the developers to use, which will allow for some new and exciting apps to be developed. Including access to the proximity sensor! So, if you can wait, it would be a good idea, so at least you can get the latest hardware, but if not, I dont think it'll be a huge deal. Also, there may be an upgrade option too, which I'll consider once I see it.

    Hope that helps.

    Edit: Also, there's no clear definition by the industry as to what 4G is, so it's not really good to refer to the new product as a "4G" phone, since nothing of the sort exists. 2G, 3G, etc, are more a definition of what the cellular networks are capable of (data transmission speeds), and to a degree, what the phone can do, but there's been no giant leap in cellular transmission technology proposed or rolled out, so we'll need to wait for the industry to define what exactly 4G is before phones capable of being called '4G capable' can be made.
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    Re: apple i phone 3g or wait for 4g?

    seriously dude, if you'll wait for 4G you might have earned money enough to buy a house... i mean 4G system will be a complete replacement for current networks and be able to provide a comprehensive and secure IP solution where voice, data, and streamed multimedia can be given to users on an "Anytime, Anywhere" basis, and at much higher data rates than previous generations. but still it will undergo a lot of rigorous tests before it maybe implemented... if you think of it, 3G is still a rising star in China and has only been implemented late 2008 or early 2009... so you see, if 4G will push thru i think it'll take ages..



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    Re: apple i phone 3g or wait for 4g?

    Quote Originally Posted by brainox View Post
    seriously dude, if you'll wait for 4G you might have earned money enough to buy a house... i mean 4G system will be a complete replacement for current networks and be able to provide a comprehensive and secure IP solution where voice, data, and streamed multimedia can be given to users on an "Anytime, Anywhere" basis, and at much higher data rates than previous generations. but still it will undergo a lot of rigorous tests before it maybe implemented... if you think of it, 3G is still a rising star in China and has only been implemented late 2008 or early 2009... so you see, if 4G will push thru i think it'll take ages..
    No no, he's reffering to the new iPhone due out, people are mistakenly referring to it a "4G". If you read my previous post, I explained to him the misunderstanding of referring o it as 4G.



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    Re: apple i phone 3g or wait for 4g?

    Well, if you really wanna get technical, the 4G may be offered on Verizon's network.

    There are no specific details, but Apple is definitely discussing 4G.

    Yes, 4G LTE with Verizon will only be data...so to the poster who said it would include everything, including voice...that's wrong, at this point. Yes, LTE will have the capability to hold calls...in the future.

    LTE for Verizon Wireless will be the second 4G network launched in the United States. Sprint PCS will have WiMAX coming by the end of this year (hopefully). Verizon decided to go with LTE so it can one day operate in nearly every country at reasonable rates...

    LTE (4G) for Verizon is expected to be everywhere that the current EV-DO network (which is almost anywhere that they have standard voice on network coverage) is by the middle of 2015...not that far away! Verizon already has LTE installed in 75 cities nationwide over 3 states (California, Florida, New York)...all they're waiting for is the thumbs up from the FCC to turn it on and begin testing. They turn on only a few cities in 2010 to begin testing.
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    Re: apple i phone 3g or wait for 4g?

    Quote Originally Posted by nicknrm View Post
    Well, if you really wanna get technical, the 4G may be offered on Verizon's network.

    There are no specific details, but Apple is definitely discussing 4G.

    Yes, 4G LTE with Verizon will only be data...so to the poster who said it would include everything, including voice...that's wrong, at this point. Yes, LTE will have the capability to hold calls...in the future.

    LTE for Verizon Wireless will be the second 4G network launched in the United States. Sprint PCS will have WiMAX coming by the end of this year (hopefully). Verizon decided to go with LTE so it can one day operate in nearly every country at reasonable rates...

    LTE (4G) for Verizon is expected to be everywhere that the current EV-DO network (which is almost anywhere that they have standard voice on network coverage) is by the middle of 2015...not that far away! Verizon already has LTE installed in 75 cities nationwide over 3 states (California, Florida, New York)...all they're waiting for is the thumbs up from the FCC to turn it on and begin testing. They turn on only a few cities in 2010 to begin testing.
    Well, at this point neither standards bodies nor carriers have concretely defined or agreed upon what exactly 4G will be, so anyone or any company calling something '4g' is simply marketing. Since an ITU specification that is currently being developed for broadband mobile capabilities is currently still under development, no one can state 4g as of yet, since the standard has yet to be defined. (If ya want to get technical).



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    Re: apple i phone 3g or wait for 4g?

    Sprint has received FCC approval for a network WHICH WAS ADDRESSED [by the FCC] AS 4G by the FCC.

    LTE hasn't been confirmed as 4G, but since it's Europe's defined 4G...I'm sure it will be Verizon (and GSM Carriers) 4G.


    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceNut View Post
    Well, at this point neither standards bodies nor carriers have concretely defined or agreed upon what exactly 4G will be, so anyone or any company calling something '4g' is simply marketing. Since an ITU specification that is currently being developed for broadband mobile capabilities is currently still under development, no one can state 4g as of yet, since the standard has yet to be defined. (If ya want to get technical).
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    Re: apple i phone 3g or wait for 4g?

    so you guys are more or less saying, though the new iphone will be better, its nothing considerable, its just necessities added and the price will be extrodinate, especially since i will be buying it on PAYG
    in the uk the price for the 8gb is 242 and the 16gb is 292, i have just seen an ad on a classifieds site for a 16gb iphone BNIB for 250, so i may give it a ring, what do you guys think



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    Re: apple i phone 3g or wait for 4g?

    i think this is what you're pertaining to.



    this is what they're saying about the so called "iPhone 3G Pro"



    The Royal Bank of Canada is maintaining its bearish near-term outlook on shares of Apple, claiming that although consumer interest in a new version of the iPhone remains healthy, sales of the new device are unlikely to provide the company with the same boost seen during the transition from the original iPhone to the iPhone 3G.

    In a report to clients Monday, analyst Mike Abramsky laid out some pretty obvious predictions for the future of Apple's smartphone business. Specifically, he believes the company "will announce an updated iPhone 3G 'Pro'" at its annual developers conference slated for June 8-12, with a release to follow in July.

    Among his feature predictions for the new model is a new 3.2 megapixel camera, better battery life for video playback, "a faster 3G chipset (HSUPA vs current HSDPA), improved graphics processor, video recording, more memory (16GB/32GB)" and an enclosure that's one-tenth of a millimeter thinner than the one employed by the iPhone 3G.

    A proprietary survey by RBC's ChangeWave market research division conducted this month found "healthy pent-up demand" for a new iPhone, with 20% of the 4,300 respondents saying they'd consider buying a 16GB iPhone 3G 'Pro' (11%) priced at $199 or 32GB iPhone 3G Pro (9%) priced at $299. Another 8 % expressed interest in the current iPhone 3G if it were to be priced at $99.

    However, Abramsky told clients the update won't be enough to boost the iPhone's momentum above current levels and is only likely to sustain the touchscreen handset's current market traction. In support of this theory, he cited about a half dozen reasons, namely that the expected jump in internet download speeds is unlikely to be as dramatic as last year's switch from EDGE to 3G.

    Although Apple has reportedly been discussing options that would make the next iPhone more affordable (1, 2) for customers during the global recession, Abramsky isn't holding high hopes for these changes either. Instead, he believes pricing will remain relatively the same, which is yet another reason he doesn't expect new models to spark a noticeable increase in consumer demand.


    "The prior 3G product cycle coincided with the move to subsidized iPhone pricing (from prior $399/$499), boosting buying intentions est. 50-100%," he wrote.

    Among the other factors cited by the analyst as weighing against a surge in momentum are the availability of pre-paid iPhones, pending launches from iPhone rivals, a slowdown in consumer spending, and a lack of new international territories for iPhone expansion.

    That said, one international expansion prospect with "big" potential is China, Abramsky told clients. Assuming Apple finalizes a deal with the nation's second-largest wireless provider China Unicom, he believes the company could sell upwards of 1.5 million additional iPhones during the 2009 calendar year.

    Abramsky also used his note Monday to quell rumors of an entry-level iPhone that he helped fuel just one month ago.

    "Build data and other checks suggest Apple may not launch a lower priced iPhone as soon as generally thought," he wrote. "If so, his would help protect iPhone margins (est 55% at $400 subsidy), but might leave Apple vulnerable to share gains from pending lower-priced competitive alternatives."

    The RBC analyst maintained his Underperform rating and bleak $70 price target on shares of Apple.


    AppleInsider | RBC says iPhone 3G 'Pro' won't boost iPhone momentum



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