Cost of Telstra free home?

"nelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored alarm
> system- it requires fixed phone line.
> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another reliable
> service bypassing fixed line.

Look into a GSM/mobile adapter for it. With cutting the phone line a common
way around a traditional monitered alarms, GSM adapters are getting popular.

As for your internet, you could look into Optus cable or one of the several
wireless services out there. Because you have Telstra cable, I'm assuming
that your located in a Capital City? If so, I wouldnt be surprised if
something like Unwired or Iburst is available to you...

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"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You havent actually specified why you want a Telstra free home or what the
> advantages would be.

Eating away at their monopoly, 1 customer at a time...

FruitLoop <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> FruitLoop <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> FruitLoop <[email protected]> wrote

>>>>> Sounds good in theory , however VOIP
>>>>> cannot be reliable for emergency calls

>>>> Doesnt need to be with a mobile.

>>> Again cant be relied upon , landline is more reliable
>>> and recommended by emergency services fool .

>> Again, she has to keep the landline anyway, ****wit.

> Thats what Im saying ,

Couldnt bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag...

>>> Emergency services actually reference your phone # with actual
>>> location which can help and save both mistakes and time .

>> Sure, its got some advantages with little kids etc,
>> but she has to keep the landline anyway, ****wit.

> Circular crap again , you were suggesting mobiles fool ,
> they are not linked to location at emergency services level .
> Thanx for acknowledging landlines are important , again .

Couldnt bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag...

>>> Your obviously not into emergency services .

>> Wrong, as always. I use both, because I can need
>> to call emergency services from my mobile, ****wit.

> Circular crap again , you were suggesting mobiles fool ,
> they are not linked to location at emergency services level .
> Thanx for acknowledging landlines are important , again .

Couldnt bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag...

>>>> And she needs the landline anyway.

>>>>> You cannot get out of line rental and thats why Telstra
>>>>> have announced the end of cable in 2009 as landline
>>>>> based services via adsl 2 will be faster ( paytv etc )

>>>> That isnt the reason.

>>> Its reality

>> Nope, not if the govt wont allow telstra to refuse
>> to resell the fibre to the node services, ****wit.

> Again nothing to do with ADSL or telephones to the people .

Wrong, as always.

>>> and he has a cable account fool .

>> SHE wants to get rid of the cable, ****wit.

> I again stated that cables been made redundant ,

Taint gunna happen if the ACCC wont allow
telstra to refuse to resell FTTN, ****wit.

> another reason to look at other options ,

She's already doing that, ****wit.

>> And she needs the landline for the alarm service anyway.

>>>>> Thats why telstra cant wait , the old is
>>>>> new again and they make more money

>>>> It remains to be seen if they will be allowed to not resell
>>>> fibre to the node and they have said they wont bother with
>>>> it if they are forced to resell it. Thats unlikely to be bluff.

>>> Crap that has nothing to do with OP ,

>> It has everything to do with your mindless pig ignorant **** tho.

> Mindless crap .........your full of it

Couldnt bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag...


>>>>> "nelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Scenario:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My landline is with Telstra.
>>>>>> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
>>>>>> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
>>>>>> No contracts at all.
>>>>>> I own necessary hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT
>>>>>> monitored alarm system- it requires fixed phone line.
>>>>>> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another
>>>>>> reliable service bypassing fixed line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved
>>>>>> to VOIP (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly
>>>>>> fee). Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and
>>>>>> probably new hand set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide
>>>>>> CDMA service provider). Internet connection can be switched to
>>>>>> ADSL (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a cost of a new modem and monthly
>>>>>> fee. Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL
>>>>>> going?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My rough calculation- if I can do it at all- about $800+ plus
>>>>>> contracts- arrgh.
>>>>>> As you can see not an easy decision- and if I know it- so does
>>>>>> Telstra.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nelly

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thats what you do with your bull**** and lost argument .........again


man your a loser

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
FruitLoop <[email protected]> desperately
attempted to bull**** its way out of its predicament
and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

"nelly" <[email protected]> writes:

>Scenario:

>My landline is with Telstra.
>My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
>My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
>No contracts at all.
>I own necessary hardware.

>Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored alarm
>system- it requires fixed phone line.
>The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another reliable
>service bypassing fixed line.

Wireless and fixed line services both don't guarantee 100 percent
availability for residential services no matter who the provider is.

However a fixed line has inherently better availability but of course it's
not portable so the two aspects need to be compared. Obviously for a
monitored alarm the property it's securing is fixed, so using a wireless
service for that is not giving you any advantages unless you can accept that
wireless cannot provide the same inherent availability as a fixed line.

>Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to VOIP
>(at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).
>Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and probably new hand
>set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service provider).
>Internet connection can be switched to ADSL (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a cost
>of a new modem and monthly fee.
>Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?

No - once you change to ADSL the price you pay for the ADSL service includes
the physical infrastructure needed to provide it (ie. the copper pair,
etc.).

Regards,

Craig.

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"nelly" <[email protected]> writes:

>Thanks Fruitloop,
>Emergency calls- not an issue in this case as they can be made on mobile.

But calls to an alarm monitoring company are not emergency calls - the only
numbers that can be called for free via mobile phone networks are 000 and
112 in Australia.

Unless the alarm devices calls one of those numbers then the calls will be
charged no matter what method is used to place them.

Craig.
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Craig Dewick ([email protected]). http://lios.apana.org.au/~craig
APANA Sydney Deputy Regional Co-ordinator. Operator of Jedi (APANA Sydney POP)
Always striving for a secure long-term future in an insecure short-term world
Have you exported a crypto system today? Do your bit to undermine the NSA.

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind
Rod Speed <[email protected]> desperately
attempted to bull**** its way out of its predicament
and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

"Brendon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > You havent actually specified why you want a Telstra free home or what
the
> > advantages would be.
>
> Eating away at their monopoly, 1 customer at a time...

How is that an advantage to a customer?

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> writes:

>nelly <[email protected]> wrote

>> Scenario:

>> My landline is with Telstra.
>> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
>> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
>> No contracts at all.
>> I own necessary hardware.

>> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored alarm
>> system- it requires fixed phone line.

>Which makes the adsl without landline question redundant.

>> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another reliable
>> service bypassing fixed line.

>> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to
>> VOIP (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).

>But you need the landline for the alarm system.

>> Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract

>You dont have to have a contract, you can just change
>to a new mobile telco using your existing handset.

>> and probably new hand set-

>Nope.

>> (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service provider).

>Optarse resells Telstra cdma so that would be fine.

>So does Southern Cross.

>> Internet connection can be switched to ADSL (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a cost
>> of a new modem

>Quite a few provide a free modem.

>> and monthly fee.

>Lower than the cable monthly fee.

>> Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?

>Yes. But that can be HomeLine Budget at $18.50 per month.

What is the point of getting ADSL then? If someone is going to have to pay
$20 *plus* the cost of an ADSL plan, there is no real advantage.

Craig.
--
Craig Dewick ([email protected]). http://lios.apana.org.au/~craig
APANA Sydney Deputy Regional Co-ordinator. Operator of Jedi (APANA Sydney POP)
Always striving for a secure long-term future in an insecure short-term world
Have you exported a crypto system today? Do your bit to undermine the NSA.

Craig Ian Dewick <[email protected]> wrote
> nelly <[email protected]> writes

>> Emergency calls- not an issue in this case as they can be made on mobile.

> But calls to an alarm monitoring company are not emergency calls -

She didnt say those are going to be made on the mobile.

> the only numbers that can be called for free via
> mobile phone networks are 000 and 112 in Australia.

Fine for real emergency calls.

> Unless the alarm devices calls one of those numbers then the calls
> will be charged no matter what method is used to place them.

She didnt say those are going to be made on the mobile.

Craig Ian Dewick <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> writes
>> nelly <[email protected]> wrote

>>> Scenario:

>>> My landline is with Telstra.
>>> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
>>> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
>>> No contracts at all.
>>> I own necessary hardware.

>>> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is
>>> ADT monitored alarm system- it requires fixed phone line.

>> Which makes the adsl without landline question redundant.

>>> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise
>>> of another reliable service bypassing fixed line.

>>> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to
>>> VOIP (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).

>> But you need the landline for the alarm system.

>>> Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract

>> You dont have to have a contract, you can just change
>> to a new mobile telco using your existing handset.

>>> and probably new hand set-

>> Nope.

>>> (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service provider).

>> Optarse resells Telstra cdma so that would be fine.

>> So does Southern Cross.

>>> Internet connection can be switched to ADSL
>>> (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a cost of a new modem

>> Quite a few provide a free modem.

>>> and monthly fee.

>> Lower than the cable monthly fee.

>>> Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?

>> Yes. But that can be HomeLine Budget at $18.50 per month.

> What is the point of getting ADSL then?

She needs the landline for the monitored alarm system.

> If someone is going to have to pay $20 *plus* the
> cost of an ADSL plan, there is no real advantage.

Wrong again with the higher download limits or no download limit.

Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> Brendon <[email protected]> wrote
>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote

>>> You havent actually specified why you want a
>>> Telstra free home or what the advantages would be.

>> Eating away at their monopoly, 1 customer at a time...

> How is that an advantage to a customer?

A customer may hate telstra, stupid.

Craig Ian Dewick <[email protected]> wrote:
> "nelly" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Scenario:
>
>> My landline is with Telstra.
>> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
>> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
>> No contracts at all.
>> I own necessary hardware.
>
>> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored
>> alarm system- it requires fixed phone line.
>> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another
>> reliable service bypassing fixed line.
>
> Wireless and fixed line services both don't guarantee 100 percent
> availability for residential services no matter who the provider is.
>
> However a fixed line has inherently better availability but of course
> it's not portable so the two aspects need to be compared. Obviously
> for a monitored alarm the property it's securing is fixed, so using a
> wireless service for that is not giving you any advantages unless you
> can accept that wireless cannot provide the same inherent
> availability as a fixed line.
>
>> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to
>> VOIP (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).
>> Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and probably new
>> hand set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service
>> provider). Internet connection can be switched to ADSL (but not
>> ADSL2 as yet) at a cost of a new modem and monthly fee.
>> Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?
>
> No - once you change to ADSL the price you pay for the ADSL service
> includes the physical infrastructure needed to provide it (ie. the
> copper pair, etc.).

Wrong, as always.

No wonder the best you can manage is to drive trains.

You dont even get to specify where you go with those.

Brendon wrote:

> "nelly" wrote:
>
>> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored
>> alarm system- it requires fixed phone line.
>> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another
>> reliable service bypassing fixed line.
>
> Look into a GSM/mobile adapter for it. With cutting the phone line a
> common way around a traditional monitered alarms, GSM adapters are
> getting popular.
>
> As for your internet, you could look into Optus cable or one of the
> several wireless services out there. Because you have Telstra cable,
> I'm assuming that your located in a Capital City? If so, I wouldnt be
> surprised if something like Unwired or Iburst is available to you...

Optus can supply a landline phone service over their cable TV network,
although phone over cable probably less reliable than standard landline.