Cost of Telstra free home?

Scenario:

My landline is with Telstra.
My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
No contracts at all.
I own necessary hardware.

Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored alarm
system- it requires fixed phone line.
The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another reliable
service bypassing fixed line.

Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to VOIP
(at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).
Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and probably new hand
set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service provider).
Internet connection can be switched to ADSL (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a cost
of a new modem and monthly fee.
Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?

My rough calculation- if I can do it at all- about $800+ plus contracts-
arrgh.
As you can see not an easy decision- and if I know it- so does Telstra.

nelly

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Sounds good in theory , however VOIP cannot be reliable for emergency calls

You cannot get out of line rental and thats why Telstra have announced the
end of cable in 2009 as landline based services via adsl 2 will be faster
( paytv etc )

Thats why telstra cant wait , the old is new again and they make more money


"nelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Scenario:
>
> My landline is with Telstra.
> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
> No contracts at all.
> I own necessary hardware.
>
> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored alarm
> system- it requires fixed phone line.
> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another reliable
> service bypassing fixed line.
>
> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to VOIP
> (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).
> Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and probably new hand
> set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service provider).
> Internet connection can be switched to ADSL (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a
cost
> of a new modem and monthly fee.
> Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?
>
> My rough calculation- if I can do it at all- about $800+ plus contracts-
> arrgh.
> As you can see not an easy decision- and if I know it- so does Telstra.
>
> nelly
>
>

FruitLoop wrote:
> Sounds good in theory , however VOIP cannot be reliable for emergency calls

It can't? why?

Thanks Fruitloop,
Emergency calls- not an issue in this case as they can be made on mobile.
Is $5 increase in harmony with CPI increase- I mean I hopeTelstra employees
in fixed line area will receive 17% pay rise from 1st Dec...
I am ashamed to be so ungrateful to the No1 Telstra share holder.
If I can't get rid of Telstra and Telstra knows it then increase of 17% is
nothing- they could have asked for 170% and I would still have to pay.
nelly


"FruitLoop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Sounds good in theory , however VOIP cannot be reliable for emergency
> calls
>
> You cannot get out of line rental and thats why Telstra have announced the
> end of cable in 2009 as landline based services via adsl 2 will be faster
> ( paytv etc )
>
> Thats why telstra cant wait , the old is new again and they make more
> money

FruitLoop <[email protected]> wrote

> Sounds good in theory , however VOIP
> cannot be reliable for emergency calls

Doesnt need to be with a mobile.

And she needs the landline anyway.

> You cannot get out of line rental and thats why Telstra
> have announced the end of cable in 2009 as landline
> based services via adsl 2 will be faster ( paytv etc )

That isnt the reason.

> Thats why telstra cant wait , the old is
> new again and they make more money

It remains to be seen if they will be allowed to not resell
fibre to the node and they have said they wont bother with
it if they are forced to resell it. Thats unlikely to be bluff.


> "nelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Scenario:
>>
>> My landline is with Telstra.
>> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
>> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
>> No contracts at all.
>> I own necessary hardware.
>>
>> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored
>> alarm system- it requires fixed phone line.
>> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another
>> reliable service bypassing fixed line.
>>
>> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to
>> VOIP (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).
>> Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and probably new
>> hand set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service
>> provider). Internet connection can be switched to ADSL (but not
>> ADSL2 as yet) at a cost of a new modem and monthly fee.
>> Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?
>>
>> My rough calculation- if I can do it at all- about $800+ plus
>> contracts- arrgh.
>> As you can see not an easy decision- and if I know it- so does
>> Telstra.
>>
>> nelly

nelly <[email protected]> wrote

> Scenario:

> My landline is with Telstra.
> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
> No contracts at all.
> I own necessary hardware.

> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored alarm
> system- it requires fixed phone line.

Which makes the adsl without landline question redundant.

> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another reliable
> service bypassing fixed line.

> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to
> VOIP (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).

But you need the landline for the alarm system.

> Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract

You dont have to have a contract, you can just change
to a new mobile telco using your existing handset.

> and probably new hand set-

Nope.

> (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service provider).

Optarse resells Telstra cdma so that would be fine.

So does Southern Cross.

> Internet connection can be switched to ADSL (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a cost
> of a new modem

Quite a few provide a free modem.

> and monthly fee.

Lower than the cable monthly fee.

> Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?

Yes. But that can be HomeLine Budget at $18.50 per month.

> My rough calculation- if I can do it at all- about $800+ plus contracts-
> arrgh.

You dont have to have any contracts for anything if you dont want them.

> As you can see not an easy decision-

Its very doable tho.

> and if I know it- so does Telstra.

Sure, they certainly play on the lack of knowledge most have.

You'd have to say how you use the internet, particularly volume per
month to say too much too useful about the better alternatives.

Thanks for the info, Rod- much appreciate.

I am currently on 400 MB per month and struggling.
1 Gig would make me much more comfortable.
However on Bigpond cable I am given option of 400 MB or 10 Giga which is far
too much for me.
I use it mainly for email, newsgroups, newspaper, updates- mainly day hours.
I am regularly away and sometimes month goes by without accessing my
account.
nelly

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> nelly <[email protected]> wrote
..
>
> You'd have to say how you use the internet, particularly volume per
> month to say too much too useful about the better alternatives.
>
>

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> FruitLoop <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > Sounds good in theory , however VOIP
> > cannot be reliable for emergency calls
>
> Doesnt need to be with a mobile.

Again cant be relied upon , landline is more reliable and recommended by
emergency services fool .

Emergency services actually reference your phone # with actual location
which can help and save both mistakes and time .

Your obviously not into emergency services .


>
> And she needs the landline anyway.
>
> > You cannot get out of line rental and thats why Telstra
> > have announced the end of cable in 2009 as landline
> > based services via adsl 2 will be faster ( paytv etc )
>
> That isnt the reason.


Its reality and he has a cable account fool .

>
> > Thats why telstra cant wait , the old is
> > new again and they make more money
>
> It remains to be seen if they will be allowed to not resell
> fibre to the node and they have said they wont bother with
> it if they are forced to resell it. Thats unlikely to be bluff.

Crap that has nothing to do with OP , typical rod speed bull**** .

>
>
> > "nelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Scenario:
> >>
> >> My landline is with Telstra.
> >> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
> >> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
> >> No contracts at all.
> >> I own necessary hardware.
> >>
> >> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored
> >> alarm system- it requires fixed phone line.
> >> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another
> >> reliable service bypassing fixed line.
> >>
> >> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to
> >> VOIP (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).
> >> Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and probably new
> >> hand set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service
> >> provider). Internet connection can be switched to ADSL (but not
> >> ADSL2 as yet) at a cost of a new modem and monthly fee.
> >> Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?
> >>
> >> My rough calculation- if I can do it at all- about $800+ plus
> >> contracts- arrgh.
> >> As you can see not an easy decision- and if I know it- so does
> >> Telstra.
> >>
> >> nelly
>
>

Alice wrote:
> FruitLoop wrote:
>
>> Sounds good in theory , however VOIP cannot be reliable for emergency
>> calls
>
>
> It can't? why?

Power goes down, ISP dies, computer/adapter dies = no emergency call.

FruitLoop <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> FruitLoop <[email protected]> wrote

>>> Sounds good in theory , however VOIP
>>> cannot be reliable for emergency calls

>> Doesnt need to be with a mobile.

> Again cant be relied upon , landline is more reliable
> and recommended by emergency services fool .

Again, she has to keep the landline anyway, ****wit.

> Emergency services actually reference your phone # with actual
> location which can help and save both mistakes and time .

Sure, its got some advantages with little kids etc,
but she has to keep the landline anyway, ****wit.

> Your obviously not into emergency services .

Wrong, as always. I use both, because I can need
to call emergency services from my mobile, ****wit.

>> And she needs the landline anyway.

>>> You cannot get out of line rental and thats why Telstra
>>> have announced the end of cable in 2009 as landline
>>> based services via adsl 2 will be faster ( paytv etc )

>> That isnt the reason.

> Its reality

Nope, not if the govt wont allow telstra to refuse
to resell the fibre to the node services, ****wit.

> and he has a cable account fool .

SHE wants to get rid of the cable, ****wit.

And she needs the landline for the alarm service anyway.

>>> Thats why telstra cant wait , the old is
>>> new again and they make more money

>> It remains to be seen if they will be allowed to not resell
>> fibre to the node and they have said they wont bother with
>> it if they are forced to resell it. Thats unlikely to be bluff.

> Crap that has nothing to do with OP ,

It has everything to do with your mindless pig ignorant **** tho.


>>> "nelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Scenario:
>>>>
>>>> My landline is with Telstra.
>>>> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
>>>> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
>>>> No contracts at all.
>>>> I own necessary hardware.
>>>>
>>>> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored
>>>> alarm system- it requires fixed phone line.
>>>> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another
>>>> reliable service bypassing fixed line.
>>>>
>>>> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved
>>>> to VOIP (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly
>>>> fee). Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and
>>>> probably new hand set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide
>>>> CDMA service provider). Internet connection can be switched to
>>>> ADSL (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a cost of a new modem and monthly
>>>> fee. Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?
>>>>
>>>> My rough calculation- if I can do it at all- about $800+ plus
>>>> contracts- arrgh.
>>>> As you can see not an easy decision- and if I know it- so does
>>>> Telstra.
>>>>
>>>> nelly

nelly <[email protected]> wrote

> Thanks for the info, Rod- much appreciate.

> I am currently on 400 MB per month and struggling.
> 1 Gig would make me much more comfortable.

You've got a hell of a lot of choices with adsl with that volume.
For a lot less than you are currently paying for cable too.

> However on Bigpond cable I am given option of 400 MB or 10 Giga which is far
> too much for me.
> I use it mainly for email, newsgroups, newspaper, updates- mainly day
> hours. I am regularly away and sometimes month goes by without
> accessing my account.

Yeah, 400M is a bit tight for that sort of use.

How do you feel about lowest price compared
with minimum risk of the ISP going bust ?

http://www.exetel.com.au/a_plan_pricing_new.htm
is pretty cheap monthly costs with a substantial
startup charge, and a small risk of the ISP going bust.

http://www.aapt.com.au/internet/broadband/
is a bit less risky ISP wise and decent prices.

http://home.dodo.com.au/plans_broadband.html
maybe, similar ISP risk.

http://www.iinet.net.au/products/home/bliink/index.html
has no risk of the ISP going bust and not that
much more expensive than the cheapest per month.
Excellent speed with 1500 the minimum speed.

> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> nelly <[email protected]> wrote
> .
>>
>> You'd have to say how you use the internet, particularly volume per
>> month to say too much too useful about the better alternatives.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> FruitLoop <[email protected]> wrote
> > Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
> >> FruitLoop <[email protected]> wrote
>
> >>> Sounds good in theory , however VOIP
> >>> cannot be reliable for emergency calls
>
> >> Doesnt need to be with a mobile.
>
> > Again cant be relied upon , landline is more reliable
> > and recommended by emergency services fool .
>
> Again, she has to keep the landline anyway, ****wit.

Thats what Im saying , get with the program fool , your in a circular loop .

>
> > Emergency services actually reference your phone # with actual
> > location which can help and save both mistakes and time .
>
> Sure, its got some advantages with little kids etc,
> but she has to keep the landline anyway, ****wit.

Circular crap again , you were suggesting mobiles fool , they are not linked
to location at emergency services level .
Thanx for acknowledging landlines are important , again .

>
> > Your obviously not into emergency services .
>
> Wrong, as always. I use both, because I can need
> to call emergency services from my mobile, ****wit.

Circular crap again , you were suggesting mobiles fool , they are not linked
to location at emergency services level .
Thanx for acknowledging landlines are important , again .


>
> >> And she needs the landline anyway.
>
> >>> You cannot get out of line rental and thats why Telstra
> >>> have announced the end of cable in 2009 as landline
> >>> based services via adsl 2 will be faster ( paytv etc )
>
> >> That isnt the reason.
>
> > Its reality
>
> Nope, not if the govt wont allow telstra to refuse
> to resell the fibre to the node services, ****wit.

Again nothing to do with ADSL or telephones to the people .


>
> > and he has a cable account fool .
>
> SHE wants to get rid of the cable, ****wit.

I again stated that cables been made redundant , another reason to look at
other options , get with the program fool .


>
> And she needs the landline for the alarm service anyway.
>
> >>> Thats why telstra cant wait , the old is
> >>> new again and they make more money
>
> >> It remains to be seen if they will be allowed to not resell
> >> fibre to the node and they have said they wont bother with
> >> it if they are forced to resell it. Thats unlikely to be bluff.
>
> > Crap that has nothing to do with OP ,
>
> It has everything to do with your mindless pig ignorant **** tho.

Mindless crap .........your full of it


>
>
> >>> "nelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>> Scenario:
> >>>>
> >>>> My landline is with Telstra.
> >>>> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
> >>>> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
> >>>> No contracts at all.
> >>>> I own necessary hardware.
> >>>>
> >>>> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored
> >>>> alarm system- it requires fixed phone line.
> >>>> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another
> >>>> reliable service bypassing fixed line.
> >>>>
> >>>> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved
> >>>> to VOIP (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly
> >>>> fee). Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and
> >>>> probably new hand set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide
> >>>> CDMA service provider). Internet connection can be switched to
> >>>> ADSL (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a cost of a new modem and monthly
> >>>> fee. Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?
> >>>>
> >>>> My rough calculation- if I can do it at all- about $800+ plus
> >>>> contracts- arrgh.
> >>>> As you can see not an easy decision- and if I know it- so does
> >>>> Telstra.
> >>>>
> >>>> nelly
>
>

"Nick Adams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Alice wrote:
> > FruitLoop wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds good in theory , however VOIP cannot be reliable for emergency
> >> calls
> >
> >
> > It can't? why?
>
> Power goes down, ISP dies, computer/adapter dies = no emergency call.


Also some VOIP providers dont redirect 000 to emergency centres . please
confirm with VOIP providers when you enquire so to avoid potential disasters
..

You havent actually specified why you want a Telstra free home or what the
advantages would be.

"nelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Scenario:
>
> My landline is with Telstra.
> My mobile is with Telstra CDMA.
> My internet connection is with Telstra Bigpond broadband cable.
> No contracts at all.
> I own necessary hardware.
>
> Major obstacle to move to Telstra free environment is ADT monitored alarm
> system- it requires fixed phone line.
> The problem- unless someone in this group can advise of another reliable
> service bypassing fixed line.
>
> Voice calls on fixed line are not a problem as these can be moved to VOIP
> (at a cost of hardware and cheaper than Telstra monthly fee).
> Mobile service can be changed at a cost of contract and probably new hand
> set- (am not too sure of another Australia wide CDMA service provider).
> Internet connection can be switched to ADSL (but not ADSL2 as yet) at a
cost
> of a new modem and monthly fee.
> Furthermore- do I have to pay for landline to keep ADSL going?
>
> My rough calculation- if I can do it at all- about $800+ plus contracts-
> arrgh.
> As you can see not an easy decision- and if I know it- so does Telstra.
>
> nelly
>
>

"nelly" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks Fruitloop,
> Emergency calls- not an issue in this case as they can be made on mobile.
> Is $5 increase in harmony with CPI increase- I mean I hopeTelstra
employees
> in fixed line area will receive 17% pay rise from 1st Dec...

What $5 rise? Unless you are talking homeline part


> I am ashamed to be so ungrateful to the No1 Telstra share holder.
> If I can't get rid of Telstra and Telstra knows it then increase of 17% is
> nothing- they could have asked for 170% and I would still have to pay.
> nelly
>
>
> "FruitLoop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > Sounds good in theory , however VOIP cannot be reliable for emergency
> > calls
> >
> > You cannot get out of line rental and thats why Telstra have announced
the
> > end of cable in 2009 as landline based services via adsl 2 will be
faster
> > ( paytv etc )
> >
> > Thats why telstra cant wait , the old is new again and they make more
> > money
>
>